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Postby Fordorsia » Thu May 11, 2017 9:26 am

The only real way to make up for the severe lack of movement and severe vulnerability of your hand is to have them as part of an armoured gauntlet. That would fix the issue of it not being too secure, while also giving your hand the protection is desperately needs.

Also make them fixed, non-jagged blades. Retracting blades that have dumb notches and swoops are just no
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Postby Laywenrania » Thu May 11, 2017 10:25 am

The Akasha Colony wrote: Unless you use tandem bikes

this idea has some appeal. xDD
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Postby Purpelia » Thu May 11, 2017 1:03 pm

What would it take for a rifle design to have a fatal flaw that, when a certain component or several are worn, produces the result that switching to full auto and pressing the trigger fires all the rounds in the magazine and nothing can be done to stop it. Like you throw the rifle away and it still keeps firing until it runs out. ?
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Postby Greater United American Republics » Thu May 11, 2017 1:10 pm

Purpelia wrote:What would it take for a rifle design to have a fatal flaw that, when a certain component or several are worn, produces the result that switching to full auto and pressing the trigger fires all the rounds in the magazine and nothing can be done to stop it. Like you throw the rifle away and it still keeps firing until it runs out. ?



Friend, that sounds like one of those awful legal-loophole open bolt guns from the 80s. Are you sure you want to do this? You could, if there was something at fault with the sear, but with enough accidents in training, in the field and at muster, why would you want to?
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Postby Purpelia » Thu May 11, 2017 1:12 pm

Greater United American Republics wrote:
Purpelia wrote:What would it take for a rifle design to have a fatal flaw that, when a certain component or several are worn, produces the result that switching to full auto and pressing the trigger fires all the rounds in the magazine and nothing can be done to stop it. Like you throw the rifle away and it still keeps firing until it runs out. ?



Friend, that sounds like one of those awful legal-loophole open bolt guns from the 80s. Are you sure you want to do this? You could, if there was something at fault with the sear, but with enough accidents in training, in the field and at muster, why would you want to?

Basically because I am watching a video on the SA80 and that inspires me to look up random easy to access critical failures I could add to my future 1st generation gun designs as a fluff piece. Like "in use it was discovered that X but they fixed it by version 3" or something.
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Postby Greater United American Republics » Thu May 11, 2017 1:26 pm

A Fluff decision then? Godspeed I guess.
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Postby Puzikas » Thu May 11, 2017 3:23 pm

Austrasien wrote:
Puzikas wrote:Sooper SUVs aside I'm sure you've all seen the speculation that the US will be ditching 5.56x45mm, and the M4, for a more powerful Infantry cartridge.


Ah but the joke is on them. The US Army does not just "buy" things.


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Postby Gallia- » Thu May 11, 2017 3:24 pm

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Postby Federated Kingdom of Prussia » Thu May 11, 2017 5:32 pm

Didn't the Japanese use bikes in some of their invasions of Southeast Asia, when they defeated the British who were there?

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Postby The Grand Prince of Siebenburgen » Thu May 11, 2017 6:09 pm

Federated Kingdom of Prussia wrote:Didn't the Japanese use bikes in some of their invasions of Southeast Asia, when they defeated the British who were there?

Yes. Singapore campaign. However you shouldn't interpret this decision as meaning that bikes are viable in modern times as a primary means of transport. Owing to the long distance between staging areas and landing areas in Malaysia, the poor infrastructure, the terrible supply situation the Japanese were in, they ended up serving a useful role in the campaign. But that's mostly because the Japanese couldn't ship enough trucks/oil into the area to provide other transport alternatives, and because of the lack of transport by the British/Indian opposition. IIRC the Japanese accepted Singapore's surrender while on basically starvation rations, if that gives you a sense of the supply situation.

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Postby Husseinarti » Thu May 11, 2017 7:49 pm

you only use bikes because you straight just don't have enough trucks or engineers to fix stuff.
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Postby Greater United American Republics » Thu May 11, 2017 7:50 pm

What alternatives to the M2 Browning should I look into for reasons of fluff and in-universe writing nonsense?
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Postby Torsiedelle » Thu May 11, 2017 7:53 pm

How common was it for Chinese Nationalist soldiers to use American equipment in WII? I know in early WWII the NRA was largely German equipped, but what about mid or late war?
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Postby Husseinarti » Thu May 11, 2017 7:55 pm

Torsiedelle wrote:How common was it for Chinese Nationalist soldiers to use American equipment in WII? I know in early WWII the NRA was largely German equipped, but what about mid or late war?


Mid-War: Not uncommon

Late War: Legit US-style divisions along with British-style divisions
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Postby Greater United American Republics » Thu May 11, 2017 8:04 pm

Does anyone have any good photos of this "Robinson" Machine Gun thing?
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Postby Free-Don » Thu May 11, 2017 8:07 pm

Greater United American Republics wrote:What alternatives to the M2 Browning should I look into for reasons of fluff and in-universe writing nonsense?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_BRG-15
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSV_machine_gun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kord_machine_gun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DShK

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Postby Laritaia » Thu May 11, 2017 8:22 pm

Greater United American Republics wrote:What alternatives to the M2 Browning should I look into for reasons of fluff and in-universe writing nonsense?


http://modernfirearms.net/machine/ch/w5-hmg-e.html
http://modernfirearms.net/machine/ch/type-5-hmg-e.html
http://modernfirearms.net/machine/de/rheinmetall-rmg-50-machine-gun-e.html
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu May 11, 2017 9:48 pm

Husseinarti wrote:you only use bikes because you straight just don't have enough trucks or engineers to fix stuff.

Literally Guangzhou Military District circa 1941. :333

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Postby Crookfur » Thu May 11, 2017 11:14 pm

Greater United American Republics wrote:What alternatives to the M2 Browning should I look into for reasons of fluff and in-universe writing nonsense?

For what period? The others have more less covered modern alternatives but for earlier interwar stuff you could look at the Vickers. 50 (s), the big hotchkiss 13.2mm mgs and even stuff like the ZB-60.
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Postby Gallia- » Thu May 11, 2017 11:22 pm

HSLD GPMGs go.

It has to be a GPMG or a MMG like M60 or something tho.

I already have an LMG/SAW.

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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Thu May 11, 2017 11:31 pm

HK 121, Negev, PKP, Mk 48 maybe
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Postby Greater United American Republics » Thu May 11, 2017 11:36 pm

Crookfur wrote:
Greater United American Republics wrote:What alternatives to the M2 Browning should I look into for reasons of fluff and in-universe writing nonsense?

For what period? The others have more less covered modern alternatives but for earlier interwar stuff you could look at the Vickers. 50 (s), the big hotchkiss 13.2mm mgs and even stuff like the ZB-60.



I've been looking into this "Robinson Gun" type deal, unfortunately, I cannot find any details or pictures past the work of some guy going by the name "ScrewFaceRomeo" on DeviantShart.

The Period is open-ended & ambiguous due to some of the nature of certain technologies lore-wise.
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"Men did not love Rome because she was great. She was great because they had loved her."
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Fallout's Lore blended with the USCMC from Aliens and an America that both won the war of 1812 & never suffered a War Between the states, Custer brought his Gatlings alongside a winchester or thirty & America strove to adopt the Lewis Gun alongside a thousand other minor (and major) alterations to the American Timeline.

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Postby Laywenrania » Thu May 11, 2017 11:47 pm

Greater United American Republics wrote:
Crookfur wrote:For what period? The others have more less covered modern alternatives but for earlier interwar stuff you could look at the Vickers. 50 (s), the big hotchkiss 13.2mm mgs and even stuff like the ZB-60.



I've been looking into this "Robinson Gun" type deal, unfortunately, I cannot find any details or pictures past the work of some guy going by the name "ScrewFaceRomeo" on DeviantShart.

The Period is open-ended & ambiguous due to some of the nature of certain technologies lore-wise.


http://eragun.org/avstralia/pulem/pulem ... del_14.jpg
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76174
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Postby Greater United American Republics » Fri May 12, 2017 1:43 am

Laywenrania wrote:
Greater United American Republics wrote:

I've been looking into this "Robinson Gun" type deal, unfortunately, I cannot find any details or pictures past the work of some guy going by the name "ScrewFaceRomeo" on DeviantShart.

The Period is open-ended & ambiguous due to some of the nature of certain technologies lore-wise.


http://eragun.org/avstralia/pulem/pulem ... del_14.jpg
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76174



Thank you.
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Postby Fordorsia » Fri May 12, 2017 7:10 am

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The souls of the guns he destroyed can now rest

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