Infantry Discussion Thread 10: Shovel Edition [NO FWORDS]

[Fryske Ryk]

Looks tiny but the Hind exists so it sort just banks on whether or not you want to use a 60-year-old helicopter

i figured ~frizzya~ would use some sort of co-axial UH-60 tho

If you want I can give it a compound coaxial like an assault transport Raider.

That might be more fitting with Fryske's theme of HSLD nonsense too.

But that seems really high powered for what is supposed to be a fairly second rate naval infantry force.

Maybe just make them really smol battalions or something. Frisian Wasp vs. Gallan "Bi".

Seasprite is more Kampala's style anyway.

[-AlEmAnNiA-]

seasprite is def kampala's motif

assault transport Raider would be pretty dope tho tbh

[Fryske Ryk]

Kampala only loses the war for the universe because it cannot compete with insect culture.

At the world meeting of the elite globalists, everyone removes their Siliconne Flesh.

Galla is bee.
Frisia is wasp.
Some other dude is ant.

Kampala is just a dude raising an eyebrow.

They only survive because they're plucky and the insect cultures keep them as pets.

[United Dixieland Territories]

It looks small but maybe not much smaller than Hind?

"Small" in the sense that it can be maneuverable where it counts; but it looks like you could cram enough riflemen in there for whatever you need it to do.

[Fryske Ryk]

It's actually really slow. It definitely was wasn't a fighting machine, it was a buoy dispenser and mobile torpedo tube. Seasprite is a bad ride but it's probably just barely adequate for lifting a stick of dudes, which is all I was really thinking of. I'll just make an assault ship version of S-69 with a pusher prop in the butt. Disco Age S-97 Raider.

Kampala will load Seasprites up with rocket pods and M60 machine guns and Bren guns and go waste dudes because they're the last humans left in a world taken over by insects. The eponymous "Them/They/Those" have their mandibles/feelers/appendages in every facet of society or whatever.



Frisia will just load up S-69s with all sorts of dumb signature reduction measures and a bunch of mean dudes with silencers, ATGW, "plate carriers", and thermal sights or something very unelanful and no one knows they were ever there.

Galla loads up a mechanized infantry battalion or cavalry tank squadron and just smashes everything it sees I guess. Including itself.

[United Dixieland Territories]

Got any factbook stuff logged on the whole "taken over by insects" notion?

[Fryske Ryk]

It's a meme-within-a-meme.

Gallaverse's version of David Ike asserts that global elites are led by a disguised cabal of starfarers that are Insectoid or Reptilian and the lack of global governance combined with widespread proliferation of nuclear weapons to a bunch of countries with hair triggers is a result of their hidden power plays from the shadows.

Galla is variously described as ants, bees, or pigeons.
Frisia is described as wasps or flesh eating lizards.
Other people have other creatures attached to them.

Jury's still out on whether he's right. In the far future (~2500 AD), after Galla takes over the world (ideologically speaking) and everyone begins people printing, the meme will assert that the ants/bees are winning by converting people to their efficiency mindedness but haven't won the war totally.

No one dares question this dank meme but sometimes newspapers run op-eds about the "weird and zany world of this Kampalan dude" and point to the spot of optimism hidden in his strange ideology. Only on slow news days, though.

[Puzikas]

No step on bee

Also use H19, H21 "Killer Benis", H-34 and CH-37

Army of A E S T H E T I C

[Gallia-]

Kampala just uses H-2s and Super Pumas iirc.

Galla would use all that garbage in the 60s and then offload it to its "empire" of blacks and Chinese.

Galla will use Blackhawks forever basically I think. It's got what assault troops crave: hoist. Big muscle bicopter.

[Puzikas]

Bicopter, king of the juice rotor wing aviation

[Ardavia]

how does my attempt at a rifle look?

shameless attention-whoring gogogo

[Puzikas]

Buttstock is a bit clunky
Otherwise gud

[Free-Don]

(Image)

how does my attempt at a rifle look?

shameless attention-whoring gogogo

Reminds me of the Japanese 89 rifles... *shivers*....

[Greater United American Republics]

(Image)

how does my attempt at a rifle look?

shameless attention-whoring gogogo

You could; potentially, blend the gas-block, Front sight, and bayonet lug while shortening the barrel for maximum cost-efficient parts reduction.

[Greater United American Republics]

Any advice on how to make convincing, cool and "fun" large bore caseless ammunition? The Enclave Legions of the Imperial Republic need something to fight the european communists in the further future with.

[Purpelia]

Any advice on how to make convincing, cool and "fun" large bore caseless ammunition? The Enclave Legions of the Imperial Republic need something to fight the european communists in the further future with.

Large bore as in cannon? Modern tank guns are already basically caseless.

Otherwise go rocketball.

[Maverica]

So infantry mounted on lightly armored trucks for strategic movement but then dismount and mount on foldable Mountian bikes for tactical movement in battle. Desent idea for Light infantry?

[Allanea]

So infantry mounted on lightly armored trucks for strategic movement but then dismount and mount on foldable Mountian bikes for tactical movement in battle. Desent idea for Light infantry?

Bicycles are possibly the third-worst idea for tactical movement in combat. (The worst is camels, the second is horses, if you wondered).

[Fordorsia]

Camels are the best don't you ever forget it

[NeuPolska]

So infantry mounted on lightly armored trucks for strategic movement but then dismount and mount on foldable Mountian bikes for tactical movement in battle. Desent idea for Light infantry?

Bicycles are possibly the third-worst idea for tactical movement in combat. (The worst is camels, the second is horses, if you wondered).

Depending on location, they'd be a pretty decent method of travel for infantry, though? No need for fuel, no need to feed them (except for feeding the infantry using them, but it's less tiring and more efficient to bike somewhere than it is to walk there, unless you're climbing mountains I guess).

[Spirit of Hope]

So infantry mounted on lightly armored trucks for strategic movement but then dismount and mount on foldable Mountian bikes for tactical movement in battle. Desent idea for Light infantry?

Why not just keep using the armored vehicles for tactical movement? It would be faster, stress the troops less, and would keep them protected. Using bicycles does none of those things and would take away troops ability to engage with weapons.

Bicycles are possibly the third-worst idea for tactical movement in combat. (The worst is camels, the second is horses, if you wondered).

Depending on location, they'd be a pretty decent method of travel for infantry, though? No need for fuel, no need to feed them (except for feeding the infantry using them, but it's less tiring and more efficient to bike somewhere than it is to walk there, unless you're climbing mountains I guess).

Biking towards the battle isn't the worst option, and is indeed faster and less energy intensive than walking or hiking. However if you have access to vehicles they are still infinity preferable.

[Fordorsia]

Bicycles are possibly the third-worst idea for tactical movement in combat. (The worst is camels, the second is horses, if you wondered).

Depending on location, they'd be a pretty decent method of travel for infantry, though? No need for fuel, no need to feed them (except for feeding the infantry using them, but it's less tiring and more efficient to bike somewhere than it is to walk there, unless you're climbing mountains I guess).

So they're carrying bikes with them over shitty terrain in the hopes that they find a non-existent long road that is in no way dangerous for them to make themselves a target on?

[Gallia-]

Camels are the best don't you ever forget it

[NeuPolska]

Biking towards the battle isn't the worst option, and is indeed faster and less energy intensive than walking or hiking. However if you have access to vehicles they are still infinity preferable.

Yes, I agree.

I'd only use bikes with small detachments of light infantry going in to support some army out in the field that isn't in the middle of an intense firefight or under severe threat from snipers. So limited use.

So they're carrying bikes with them over shitty terrain in the hopes that they find a non-existent long road that is in no way dangerous for them to make themselves a target on?

Not every conflict is fought on shitty terrain If it's Western Europe and there are roads everywhere, or you have good mountain bikes with quality suspension, infantry can get around on a bike.

For the rest, reference my statement to Spirit. I'm not trying to make bikes seem superior to vehicles

[Fordorsia]

Camels are the best don't you ever forget it

Ah the good old days

Not every conflict is fought on shitty terrain

Urban areas are a tiny percentage of a country's territory. Most of it is shitty terrain. If you stick to roads that's how you get seen and killed.