Infantry Discussion Thread 10: Shovel Edition [NO FWORDS]

[The Akasha Colony]

What camoflauges would make sense for a small nation without a big budget? Assuming it manufactured its own. I'm assuming it doesn't really matter but either way, it seemed like something worth asking.

Anything, really. Camo isn't expensive nor does it have to be that complicated. The Israelis and the Austrians still use single-color field uniforms, but other "small nations" use a whole variety of camo.

[Rhodesialund]

What camoflauges would make sense for a small nation without a big budget? Assuming it manufactured its own. I'm assuming it doesn't really matter but either way, it seemed like something worth asking.

Whatever works in your environment. But even dirt poor countries have some pretty fancy looking camos like Afghanistan with their Hyperstealth patterns or the plethora of countries that produce knockoff Multicam.

HyperStealth Biotechnology Corp. puts out really good products. But good lord, they are extremely tight-lipped about any recent products they are working on. Don't blame them tho, they work on a lot of hush-hush stuff.

[Laywenrania]

I kinda like it.
how many rounds fit in that magazine?

Fifteen round en-bloc, with the en-bloc feeding module being based off a Luger-designed improvement of the Gewehr 1888's copied Mannlicher magazine system.

I'm curios, what is the calibre?

[Theodosiya]

Is it possible to have this platoon arrangement post WWII but Pre-Korea?

Platoon Leader(Carbine)
Radioman (Carbine)
Asst PL (SMG)
AT Rifle
Assistant AT Rifle

Weapon Squad
SL (SMG)
ASL (SMG)
2 GPMG gunner (GPMG + Carbine)
4 Assistants (Carbine)
2 AT (Zook/RR + Carbine)
2 Assistants (Semi Auto)

2 Rifle squads, each consist of :

Squad Leader (SMG)
2 Team Leader (SMG)
2 Designated Marksman (Bolt Action rifle with scope)
2 Automatic Rifleman (BAR/Bren like weapons)
2 Assistant AR (Carbine)
4 Rifleman ( Semi auto)

[Gallia-]

BREAKING NEWS: US Army finally sells its Sig Sauer pistols to JSSAP.

http://www.guns.com/2017/05/04/army-101 ... -handguns/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017 ... air-force/

After six long, hard seasons of Bureaucracy Battles, the war is won. The trench of "Handgun Procurement" has been taken. Now onto the next battle. The National Redoubt of "Field Artillery modernization".

[Fordorsia]

"Modular Handgun System"

yuck

[Taihei Tengoku]

god sigs are ugly

[Gallia-]

god sigs are ugly

M17: Coming to a survival vest near you, soon!

Or you could be a chump and buy a M1911 or something like the dudes in Desert Storm who traded their .38 Special Aircrewman Revolvers for Savage and Ruger Wal-Mart Specials in 9mm.

RIP Atomic Cowboys 1958-1991. Hussein should have gassed at least two barracks just so we could have literal Atomic Cowboys flipping their Nuclear Consent switches over Baghdad.

United Nations Atomic Police Force vs. Sarin droplets.

UN wins.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017 ... eapon.html

hahahahahahaha how are defilades real hahahah nigga just call for fire like nigga hit the dirt hahaha

[Gallia-]

It will be back, but only when/if they can figure out how to integrate it into an individual weapon. And only if/when it is a domestic US product.

That should get around the German export foot-dragging that delayed ATK's production lot.

Alternatively they'll bring it back next year after German foot-dragging has ceased and they've drawn up a proper BOIP.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

not if we answer the german question once and for all first

[Gallia-]

Yes. I am pro Germanic Union. A merger between USA and Germany would make H&K an American company, ending German foot-dragging, and introduce German industrial policy to the United States, ending deindustrialization. Literally the best slap in the face to the Perfide Anglais besides a Franco-German-American-Scottish Union, Free Trade Agreement with the Sovereign City of London, annexation of "Yorkshire" by Scotland, and all followed by a carpet nuking of what remains of "The North" and its economically stagnant/dead societies like "Wales" and "coal mines".

Germans are basically Americans anyway and they made this country what it is. Or maybe it's the other way around on making countries.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

I was gonna say nuke the Germans but sure.

[Federated Kingdom of Prussia]

Germans are basically Americans anyway and they made this country what it is.

that sounds like wehraboo talk!

[Gallia-]

I was gonna say nuke the Germans but sure.

Are you suggesting America nuke itself?

Germans are basically Americans anyway and they made this country what it is.

that sounds like wehraboo talk!

It has nothing to do with Wehraboos unless you think Naziism is genetically innate or something. Considering the USA has never fallen to Naziism, I find that hard to believe.



Germany is just the Industrial America that Trump promises to bring back and will probably fail to do so because he is a globalist neo-liberal intent on privatization and outsourcing all our defense to the cheapest bidder. Business first and all that, Trump probably has no loyalties except to gold or is too incompetent to pull his massive ideas towards anything resembling success. Germany, OTOH, has a sensible industrial policy that involves subsidizing military factories at all cost and keeping production lines open.

Combine the two and you have a country that has a powerful state-owned military-industrial lobby and a tempered pacifism that is willing to resort to force when it's needed. The excesses of both are curbed and a happy medium appears.

[Federated Kingdom of Prussia]

I meant more along the lines of 'Germans made this country what it was'.

[Gallia-]

It's literally true. More Americans identify as "German-American" than anything. Look at that map. It's all Democrat blue aside from the Whig beige of the Appalachians and Ozarks and GOP pink of the Southwest.

[-Celibrae-]

God bless...Germany?

[Gallia-]

Best place to go in North America for Oktoberfest is this quaint little village of wineries in the Rhineland.

[-Celibrae-]

Best place to go in North America for Oktoberfest is this quaint little village of wineries in the Rhineland.

>Not even Riesling

This is even worse than the plastic paddy infestation

[Gallia-]

Cultural appropriation was invented by America.

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TBF, Hermann used to be full of small mom-and-pop wineries that spoke German behind closed doors. Some still do, but it's probably going to be gone in a couple decades. They used to give sermons in High German way back in the 1950s, because it was founded by a bunch of insane and insanely butthurt German Republicans who lost the war and wanted to make a better country than their motherlands. Oktoberfest there nowadays is just a way to get filthy Anglo tongued tourists like me to show up and buy things without paying $1,200 for a plane ticket.

It will be replaced by Spanish and English, just like French was/is. The unfortunate death of a superior language/mode of thought (to Spanish I mean, German and French are merely equal with English).

[Fordorsia]

It will be back, but only when/if they can figure out how to integrate it into an individual weapon.

Did they not try, you know, making it single shot and lighter? A semi automatic grenade launcher has always seemed excessive and unnecessary to me.

[-Celibrae-]

We should've sailed around America and gone straight to China like we said we would. Far less hassle.

[Gallia-]

It will be back, but only when/if they can figure out how to integrate it into an individual weapon.

Did they not try, you know, making it single shot and lighter? A semi automatic grenade launcher has always seemed excessive and unnecessary to me.

You're excessive and unnecessary.

We should've sailed around America and gone straight to China like we said we would. Far less hassle.

Why go to China when you can let China come to you?

[-Celibrae-]

You appeal to my sense of western decadence.