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by Theodosiya » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:06 am
by Pavelania » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:03 pm
Crookfur wrote:Bestest firefighting:
https://youtu.be/F2p2a7AshB8
Could do with the addition of a Mars though.
by New Oyashima » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:48 pm
by Prosorusiya » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:46 pm
Crookfur wrote:Prosorusiya wrote:Suggestions on what Soviet Aerobatic aircraft would be most appropriate for a 2017 civilian aerobatics team?
So far the possibilities I had in mind are:
MiG-17
MiG-15
L-39
L-29
T-11 Iskra
Yak-18
Yak-18P
Yak-18PS
Yak-50
Yak-52
Yak-15
Obviously, a full blown warlord team would be awesome, but also really expensive, so I am contemplating maybe something a step down from that, L-39s are still used by my Air Force so I was going to rule those out... not sure if I should go prop or jet plane, since prop planes can pull tighter turns than jets that could make for a more interesting display. Thoughts?
A pro team using soviet/Russian stuff would likely be using something like the yak-54 or su-26/29/31 ie pure acrobatic sports aircraft.
A civilian jet team is very rare even in the West due to the sheer costs and complexity involved.
You might want to have a look at groups like The Blades to see what is possible with a bunch of aircraft in a similar class to those mentioned previously.
by Rhodesialund » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:25 pm
Prosorusiya wrote:Thanks for the tip off, I'll definitely check out the Yak-54. I took a look at The Blades and like what I saw, especially the bit about records for formation looping. The original USSR team of the 1930s, "Red Five" did that in their routine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3N_iarw6R0
so I wanted that to be our signature move. I might go with earlier Yak variants, simply because I have a weakness for old stuff, being an historian. Would an An-12 be OK as a support craft for the team? Or would that not really be necessary for a team of civilians\paramilitary\DOSAAF?
by New Vihenia » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:30 am
by Gallia- » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:32 am
by New Vihenia » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:48 am
by Pavelania » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:29 am
by Crookfur » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:54 am
Prosorusiya wrote:Crookfur wrote:A pro team using soviet/Russian stuff would likely be using something like the yak-54 or su-26/29/31 ie pure acrobatic sports aircraft.
A civilian jet team is very rare even in the West due to the sheer costs and complexity involved.
You might want to have a look at groups like The Blades to see what is possible with a bunch of aircraft in a similar class to those mentioned previously.
Thanks for the tip off, I'll definitely check out the Yak-54. I took a look at The Blades and like what I saw, especially the bit about records for formation looping. The original USSR team of the 1930s, "Red Five" did that in their routine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3N_iarw6R0
so I wanted that to be our signature move. I might go with earlier Yak variants, simply because I have a weakness for old stuff, being an historian. Would an An-12 be OK as a support craft for the team? Or would that not really be necessary for a team of civilians\paramilitary\DOSAAF?
by New Bahtar » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:02 pm
by Democratic States Of Israel » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:06 pm
New Bahtar wrote:What aircraft is cheap and can be quickly outfitted with weapons for Counter-Insurgency roles?
by Laritaia » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:19 pm
by Crookfur » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:21 pm
New Bahtar wrote:What aircraft is cheap and can be quickly outfitted with weapons for Counter-Insurgency roles?
by Theodosiya » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:18 pm
by Theodosiya » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:06 pm
Theodosiya wrote:Between Fishbed, Farmer, Sabre and Tiger, which are the fastest and or most maneuverable?
by Laritaia » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:13 pm
by Laywenrania » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:27 pm
Nachmere wrote:Tanks are tough bastards.
Gallia- wrote: And I'm emotionally attached to large, cuddly, wide Objects.
by Baalkistann » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:32 pm
by Laywenrania » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:42 pm
Baalkistann wrote:My primary fighter is the F-22 but I could use some suggestions.
Nachmere wrote:Tanks are tough bastards.
Gallia- wrote: And I'm emotionally attached to large, cuddly, wide Objects.
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