Your Nation's Warships, Batch 3

[Theodosiya]

AFAIK, Thales & Saab produce fine electronics and radar. What would be the best for my ships?

[The Technocratic Syndicalists]

Boris! We must go full speed! Grab hammer and beat on engine!

[Theodosiya]

Kuzny. Wonder how much western stuff could be crammed to it.

[The Technocratic Syndicalists]

Kuzny. Wonder how much western stuff could be crammed to it.

Not much. Here's a photo one of my undercover CIA contacts was able to send me of the inside of the Kuznetsov's fire room while the ship is underway. The photo was taken on a low-resolution black-and-white pen camera but you can still clearly see all the cutting edge Soviet equipment. Apparently it uses the revolutionary Soviet "COSAT" or "Combined Steam and Tugboat" propulsion.

[EsToVnIa]

Why are you still using Kuznestovs?

[The Akasha Colony]

AFAIK, Thales & Saab produce fine electronics and radar. What would be the best for my ships?

There isn't one.

All of them provide a different balance between size, cost, power requirements, and capability. Whatever unit is "best" depends on your needs and your budgeting. That's one of the reasons why so many different types exist in the firs place.

[Velkanika]

At this point, the evidence is pretty clear regarding Wikileaks being a tool of Russian soft power influence. The most obvious sign of this being the fact that Wikileaks has focused almost exclusively on information damaging to NATO members and the West when there is no lack of similarly interesting information coming out of Russia. On top of that, Assange is known to openly hate the United States and has made comments to the effect of wanting to embarrass and diminish out status as a superpower. Wikileaks is quite literally a self-declared enemy of the United States.

You obviously haven't been around long enough to see what documents and stuff Wikileaks has released against Russia in the past.

Did they put out anything about their rampant election fraud or the Moscow election protests from a few years back? How about the Russo-Georgian War, the Chechen War, or even the annexation of Crimea?

Kuzny. Wonder how much western stuff could be crammed to it.

Not much. Here's a photo one of my undercover CIA contacts was able to send me of the inside of the Kuznetsov's fire room while the ship is underway. The photo was taken on a low-resolution black-and-white pen camera but you can still clearly see all the cutting edge Soviet equipment. Apparently it uses the revolutionary Soviet "COSAT" or "Combined Steam and Tugboat" propulsion.

Behold, the majestic Kuznetsov in her natural habitat:

[Pharthan]

Behold, the majestic Kuznetsov in her natural habitat:
(Image)

Ah, cool, I see they went for the low-draft, high-side armor upgrade. Might be hard to launch planes at five-knots, but survivability is definitely better.

[Urran]

would it be possible to make a submarine tube launched version of the LRASM

[Lamoni]

would it be possible to make a submarine tube launched version of the LRASM

Depends on the final dimensions of the finished missile (which could change), but I don't see why not.

[Urran]

would it be possible to make a submarine tube launched version of the LRASM

Depends on the final dimensions of the finished missile (which could change), but I don't see why not.

Thanks. It's similar enough to the Storm Shadow which has a sub launched version

[United States of PA]

If i recall correctly the LRASM has already been tested from the Mk.41.

I see no reason why you could not design a version of it for use from submarines.

[The Akasha Colony]

If i recall correctly the LRASM has already been tested from the Mk.41.

I see no reason why you could not design a version of it for use from submarines.

This doesn't guarantee compatibility.

Mk 41 can handle weapons up to 24 inches square, while standard IRL torpedo tubes can only handle up to 21 inch cylindrical weapons, aside from the Russian 650 mm tubes and the 660 mm tubes on Seawolf. It is very possible to design a weapon that would fit in a Mk 41 cell but not in a standard torpedo tube.

[The Technocratic Syndicalists]

If i recall correctly the LRASM has already been tested from the Mk.41.

I see no reason why you could not design a version of it for use from submarines.

This doesn't guarantee compatibility.

Mk 41 can handle weapons up to 24 inches square, while standard IRL torpedo tubes can only handle up to 21 inch cylindrical weapons, aside from the Russian 650 mm tubes and the 660 mm tubes on Seawolf. It is very possible to design a weapon that would fit in a Mk 41 cell but not in a standard torpedo tube.

According to FAS the JASSM (which is what the LRASM is derived from) is 18 inches in diameter. Some other sources say 25 inches wide but that doesn't make sense because then it wouldn't fit into the Mk. 41 VLS when the LRASM clearly does.

[Antheropia]

Naval warfare:

Aircraft carriers:

-Gerald R. Ford class
-Nimitz class

Amphibious Assault Ships:

-Wasp Class
-America class
-Anchorage class

Submarines:

-Ohio class
-Virginia class

Battleships:

-Modernised Iowa class

Cruisers:

-Ticonderoga

Destroyers:

-Zumwalt class
-Arleight Burke flight III

Frigates:

-Oliver hazard perry class

Littoral Combat Ships:

-Independance class
-Freedom class

[Rhodesialund]

You obviously haven't been around long enough to see what documents and stuff Wikileaks has released against Russia in the past.

Did they put out anything about their rampant election fraud or the Moscow election protests from a few years back? How about the Russo-Georgian War, the Chechen War, or even the annexation of Crimea?

Yes, yes, and yes. Also yes. Oh, and including yes. It just takes time to read through documents and various emails. Basically data-mining because Wikileaks never do news reports with brief summaries. They just go, "Hey! Here's the leaks and a handy title! Get to reading!"

Bit of a pain but they show you the evidence, and let you come to your own conclusions. People like to think Wikileaks is associated with Russia, but the reality is it's the political climate that presents that image. During the Russian invasion of Georgia and Chechnya, Russians thought Wikileaks was a puppet of the US. It's always the "Shoe's on the other foot" situation when it comes to blaming Wikileaks and the sort.

[Kolechian East Grestin]

Naval warfare:

Aircraft carriers:

-Gerald R. Ford class
-Nimitz class

Amphibious Assault Ships:

-Wasp Class
-America class
-Anchorage class

Submarines:

-Ohio class
-Virginia class

Battleships:

-Modernised Iowa class

Cruisers:

-Ticonderoga

Destroyers:

-Zumwalt class
-Arleight Burke flight III

Frigates:

-Oliver hazard perry class

Littoral Combat Ships:

-Independance class
-Freedom class

[Velkanika]

Did they put out anything about their rampant election fraud or the Moscow election protests from a few years back? How about the Russo-Georgian War, the Chechen War, or even the annexation of Crimea?

Yes, yes, and yes. Also yes. Oh, and including yes. It just takes time to read through documents and various emails. Basically data-mining because Wikileaks never do news reports with brief summaries. They just go, "Hey! Here's the leaks and a handy title! Get to reading!"

Bit of a pain but they show you the evidence, and let you come to your own conclusions. People like to think Wikileaks is associated with Russia, but the reality is it's the political climate that presents that image. During the Russian invasion of Georgia and Chechnya, Russians thought Wikileaks was a puppet of the US. It's always the "Shoe's on the other foot" situation when it comes to blaming Wikileaks and the sort.

I'll check it out, but that still doesn't mitigate the very close ties Wikileaks has with the Russians. They gave Assange a slot on Russia Today, which was founded and still is a propaganda arm of the Russian government. That isn't a minor association, and that kind of working relationship makes me severely doubt their claims of impartiality.

Naval warfare:

Aircraft carriers:

-Gerald R. Ford class
-Nimitz class

Amphibious Assault Ships:

-Wasp Class
-America class
-Anchorage class

Submarines:

-Ohio class
-Virginia class

Battleships:

-Modernised Iowa class

Cruisers:

-Ticonderoga

Destroyers:

-Zumwalt class
-Arleight Burke flight III

Frigates:

-Oliver hazard perry class

Littoral Combat Ships:

-Independance class
-Freedom class

Bit of advice - figure out some hard numbers and structure other than making a bad copy of the U.S. Navy. You'll have more fun on this site if you put some effort into it.

Also, you forgot the logistics ships that let the U.S. Navy operate non-nuclear ships on the far side of the Pacific Ocean.

[The Akasha Colony]

Yes, yes, and yes. Also yes. Oh, and including yes. It just takes time to read through documents and various emails. Basically data-mining because Wikileaks never do news reports with brief summaries. They just go, "Hey! Here's the leaks and a handy title! Get to reading!"

Bit of a pain but they show you the evidence, and let you come to your own conclusions. People like to think Wikileaks is associated with Russia, but the reality is it's the political climate that presents that image. During the Russian invasion of Georgia and Chechnya, Russians thought Wikileaks was a puppet of the US. It's always the "Shoe's on the other foot" situation when it comes to blaming Wikileaks and the sort.

I'll check it out, but that still doesn't mitigate the very close ties Wikileaks has with the Russians. They gave Assange a slot on Russia Today, which was founded and still is a propaganda arm of the Russian government. That isn't a minor association, and that kind of working relationship makes me severely doubt their claims of impartiality.

Can we please take the Wikileaks talk elsewhere? Perhaps to NSG? It has nothing at all to do with boats.

[Lamoni]

I'll check it out, but that still doesn't mitigate the very close ties Wikileaks has with the Russians. They gave Assange a slot on Russia Today, which was founded and still is a propaganda arm of the Russian government. That isn't a minor association, and that kind of working relationship makes me severely doubt their claims of impartiality.

Can we please take the Wikileaks talk elsewhere? Perhaps to NSG? It has nothing at all to do with boats.

Very much THIS^^^

[Antheropia]

Yes, yes, and yes. Also yes. Oh, and including yes. It just takes time to read through documents and various emails. Basically data-mining because Wikileaks never do news reports with brief summaries. They just go, "Hey! Here's the leaks and a handy title! Get to reading!"

Bit of a pain but they show you the evidence, and let you come to your own conclusions. People like to think Wikileaks is associated with Russia, but the reality is it's the political climate that presents that image. During the Russian invasion of Georgia and Chechnya, Russians thought Wikileaks was a puppet of the US. It's always the "Shoe's on the other foot" situation when it comes to blaming Wikileaks and the sort.

I'll check it out, but that still doesn't mitigate the very close ties Wikileaks has with the Russians. They gave Assange a slot on Russia Today, which was founded and still is a propaganda arm of the Russian government. That isn't a minor association, and that kind of working relationship makes me severely doubt their claims of impartiality.

Naval warfare:

Aircraft carriers:

-Gerald R. Ford class
-Nimitz class

Amphibious Assault Ships:

-Wasp Class
-America class
-Anchorage class

Submarines:

-Ohio class
-Virginia class

Battleships:

-Modernised Iowa class

Cruisers:

-Ticonderoga

Destroyers:

-Zumwalt class
-Arleight Burke flight III

Frigates:

-Oliver hazard perry class

Littoral Combat Ships:

-Independance class
-Freedom class

Bit of advice - figure out some hard numbers and structure other than making a bad copy of the U.S. Navy. You'll have more fun on this site if you put some effort into it.

Also, you forgot the logistics ships that let the U.S. Navy operate non-nuclear ships on the far side of the Pacific Ocean.

Lol sorry, I'm just a US Military fanboy

[The Greater Aryan Race]

Taking into account the advice and feedback of several users, this is the (hopefully) definitive ship specs of my proposed battlecruiser design.

General Characteristics:

• Class and Type: Unknown/Ersatz panzerschiff/schlachtkreuzer
• Displacement: 25,385 tons standard
• Length: 252m (827 ft)
• Beam: 28.5m 28.5 m (94 ft)
• Draft: 9.1m (30 ft)
• Propulsion: 1x A1B nuclear reactor; 2x General Electric turbines; two shafts
• Speed: 30 knots
• Range: Unlimited
• Complement: 690

Sensors and processing system:

• AN/SPY-3/4 dual band radar
• AN/SPS-73 surface search radar
• AN/SPQ-9 gun fire control radar
• AN/SLQ-32 Electronic Warfare Suite
• AN/SQQ-89(V)1/3 - A(V)15 Sonar suite, consisting of:
  
  • AN/SQS-53B/C/D active sonar
  • AN/SQR-20 Multi-Function Towed Array (MFTA) passive sonar
  • AN/SQQ-28 light airborne multi-purpose system

Electronic warfare & decoys:

• Mark 36 SRBOC
• Mark 53 Decoy Launching System (DLS) (Nulka)
• CONTRALTO-V Torpedo Defence System

Armament:

• 4x 64 cell Mk. 41 VLS (Two fore, one aft) containing:
  
  • 256x mix of:
    
    • RIM-66M-5 Standard SM-2MR Block IIIB
    • RIM-156A SM-2ER Block IV
    • RIM-161 SM-3
    • RIM-162A ESSM
    • RIM-174A Standard ERAM
    • BGM-109 Tomahawk
    • RUM-139A VL-ASROC
• 16x Mk. 141 Harpoon Launchers (8 fore, 8 aft), 16x RGM-84 Harpoon missiles
• 2× 8"/55 caliber Mark 71 guns
• 4× 25 mm Mk. 38 guns
• 4× .50 cal (12.7 mm) gun
• 3× Phalanx CIWS Block 1B (2 amidships, 1 aft)
• 2× Mk 32 12.75-in (324 mm) triple torpedo tubes

Armour: 76mm plating around reactor compartment, light Kevlar splinter protection

Aircraft carried:

• 3× Sikorsky SH-60B or MH-60R Seahawk LAMPS III helicopters.

[Theodosiya]

AFAIK, Thales & Saab produce fine electronics and radar. What would be the best for my ships?

There isn't one.

All of them provide a different balance between size, cost, power requirements, and capability. Whatever unit is "best" depends on your needs and your budgeting. That's one of the reasons why so many different types exist in the firs place.

For my corvette, a bit on budget since i want my corvette to be on slightly cheaper side.

Why are you still using Kuznestovs?

Sole carrier. Can't built another one. Not until 2021

[Urran]

There isn't one.

All of them provide a different balance between size, cost, power requirements, and capability. Whatever unit is "best" depends on your needs and your budgeting. That's one of the reasons why so many different types exist in the firs place.

For my corvette, a bit on budget since i want my corvette to be on slightly cheaper side.

Why are you still using Kuznestovs?

Sole carrier. Can't built another one. Not until 2021

Corvettes are meant to be cheap as it is

[Theodosiya]

For my corvette, a bit on budget since i want my corvette to be on slightly cheaper side.



Sole carrier. Can't built another one. Not until 2021

Corvettes are meant to be cheap as it is

And because of that i need good enough electronics that could do its job adequately. But i also don't want to sacrifice too much capability, that's why I'm looking for Thales/Saab products. Unless anyone else could elaborate? (Maybe a downgraded 9113 or 9813 Sigma electronics?)