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Allanea
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Postby Allanea » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:49 am

Wait. Does this mean they can also detect surface vessels' engines at these ranges?
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:50 am

Allanea wrote:Wait. Does this mean they can also detect surface vessels' engines at these ranges?

Surface vessels are actually way louder than WWII diesel boats.

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Rich and Corporations
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:26 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Allanea wrote:Wait. Does this mean they can also detect surface vessels' engines at these ranges?

Surface vessels are actually way louder than WWII diesel boats.

wouldn't this depend on the weather? signal to noise afterall.
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The Akasha Colony
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:02 pm

We mega Algol now.

Image

Roughly new Panamax size (slightly smaller), intended to carry an entire armored brigade's motor pool in a single trip along with enough supplies and fuel to sustain the brigade for several weeks.
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Postby Allanea » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:28 pm

Export when?
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Rich and Corporations
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:40 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:We mega Algol now.

is it helicopter carrier conversion capable?

or at least, can I put tank schools on it?
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:15 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:We mega Algol now.

([url=https://i.imgur.com/NmZ9sIl.png]Image)[/url]

Roughly new Panamax size (slightly smaller), intended to carry an entire armored brigade's motor pool in a single trip along with enough supplies and fuel to sustain the brigade for several weeks.

>dream lantern

fuckin weeb
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The Akasha Colony
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:29 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:We mega Algol now.

([url=https://i.imgur.com/NmZ9sIl.png]Image)[/url]

Roughly new Panamax size (slightly smaller), intended to carry an entire armored brigade's motor pool in a single trip along with enough supplies and fuel to sustain the brigade for several weeks.


To elaborate a bit more, I guess:

Length is 363 meters and beam is 47 meters, coming in just short of New Panamax dimensions. Draft is ~11 meters, on par with existing LMSRs and Algols. Total vehicle space should be around 50,000 m2, a good 1/3rd more than an LMSR and significantly more than the Algols. The weather deck has space for probably somewhere between 600-1,000 TEUs worth of containers, which can carry enough dry stores to support an armored brigade for a month or more (obviously depending on consumption rates etc.). There is a landing space for helicopters but the Tiamat-class is not equipped to support or repair them and does not have a dedicated hangar, although smaller helicopters (and partially disassembled larger ones) may be stored on the vehicle decks.

Propulsion is gas turbine-electric with two main shafts and two azimuth thrusters. The two azimuth thrusters work in conjunction with the bow thrusters to allow the ship to dock in ports where tugboat assistance may not be available. The bow thrusters have doors that close automatically at speeds above eight knots in order to reduce hydrodynamic drag. The multiple fuel tanks are designed to allow the ship to run on cheaper fuel oil while carrying jet fuel for vehicle use but the turbines can run on any of these fuels so cruising range can be extended if there is willingness to cut into the fuel supply for ground operations. Maximum speed is ~33 knots with a normal cruising speed around 30 knots, and with a standard load of fuel oil this range can be sustained for over 15,000 miles.

There are spaces for at least four Mexeflote/INLS platforms to be lashed to the sides, although presumably more could be carried in this manner if desired. More can also be carried on deck, along with warping tugs and the outboard motors needed to make these platforms powered landing craft. With the platforms, the ship can create its own staging area to load vehicles onto other landing craft to support landing operations, although this is obviously much slower than discharging cargo directly into a port.

Because of their size and expense compared to smaller, slower LMSR-like transports, these ships were built only for Rapid Deployment Corps, with ten assigned to each of the RDCs. They are kept pre-loaded with equipment and stores and ready to sail within 48-96 hours when called. The ten ships assigned to each RDC are sufficient to move the remaining part of the corps not carried in amphibious assault flotillas or delivered via air. A much larger fleet of Panamax-sized LMSRs and dry cargo ships also exists to move follow-on forces if needed.

Allanea wrote:Export when?


Now?

I retired my storefront but most of the stuff I make is "reasonably available" for purchase by anyone who contacts me. I say "reasonably available" because this doesn't include sensitive things like SSBNs and high-technology items like stealth aircraft are only entrusted to people I'm at least reasonably familiar with.

But there's nothing sensitive here, it's just a big and fast combined cargo transport.

Rich and Corporations wrote:is it helicopter carrier conversion capable?


I presume so?

Taihei Tengoku wrote:>dream lantern

fuckin weeb


It's slightly more subtle than writing "ZENZENZENSE" or "NANDEMONAIYA" on the side. And the comet took much longer to draw than expected.

Finding suitable weeb references is hard work.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:49 pm

Gallia- wrote:Why is the name in English and not Punic? :^DDDDDDDDD


Because I speak weeb better than I speak Punic. 8)
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The primary MT nation of this account is the Republic of Carthage.
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Republic of Carthage (MT)
World Economic Union (MT)
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Postby Gallia- » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:57 pm

I should draw my SABMIS thing I guess.

In the Final Hyperwar of 207X, Galla v. Despotism, mfg. 1979 vs. mfg. 2079. The m/16 flechette rifle, a 50-year old fighter jet, and 100-year old hypersonic missiles will win the war.

Cyberpunk met steampunk and cyberpunk lost to the principle of Mass. Smothered by snuggles.
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The Pacifican Islands
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Postby The Pacifican Islands » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:37 am

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General statistics
Displacement: 3000t

Complement: 75

Speed: 47 knots flank

Armament:
16x limited VLS for interceptor missiles and Hellfire missiles
8x SSM box launchers
2x 40mm gun
1x 76mm STRALES

(Space in central bulkhead for more weapons)

Sensors:
4x small AESA radar


It's an LCS, but different. What should I change here?

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New Antonalia
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Postby New Antonalia » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:48 am

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Not sure if this belongs here or in Make your own anything, but here it is. My current spess ship design.
A, probably less than successful, model of what a Post Soviet Eastern European nation can be

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Western Pacific Territories
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:16 pm

The USS Fitzgerald, which ran into a cargo ship a few months ago was loaded onto a transport vessel today. During loading they somehow fucked it up and created two new punctures in the hull. God bless the US Navy.

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The Akasha Colony
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:24 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:The USS Fitzgerald, which ran into a cargo ship a few months ago was loaded onto a transport vessel today. During loading they somehow fucked it up and created two new punctures in the hull. God bless the US Navy.


TBF, loading operations onto heavy lift ships are always tricky. The loading process is handled by the shipping company anyway, not the client.
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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:40 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:The USS Fitzgerald, which ran into a cargo ship a few months ago was loaded onto a transport vessel today. During loading they somehow fucked it up and created two new punctures in the hull. God bless the US Navy.


If the U.S. Navy had its own heavy lift ships then it probably wouldn't have happened.
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Radictistan
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Postby Radictistan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:46 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Western Pacific Territories wrote:The USS Fitzgerald, which ran into a cargo ship a few months ago was loaded onto a transport vessel today. During loading they somehow fucked it up and created two new punctures in the hull. God bless the US Navy.


If the U.S. Navy had its own heavy lift ships then it probably wouldn't have happened.

If the Navy had their own heavy lift ships it would probably end up costing a billion dollars to ship it home.

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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:50 pm

Radictistan wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
If the U.S. Navy had its own heavy lift ships then it probably wouldn't have happened.

If the Navy had their own heavy lift ships it would probably end up costing a billion dollars to ship it home.


Civilian contracting is more, not less, expensive.

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Radictistan
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Postby Radictistan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:57 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Radictistan wrote:If the Navy had their own heavy lift ships it would probably end up costing a billion dollars to ship it home.


Civilian contracting is more, not less, expensive.

This is the Pentagon we're talking about. When it comes to wasting resources, anything's possible. Also, I should have included a smiley face.

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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:11 pm

Keeping a heavy lift ship in mothballs and manning it with merchant mariners is substantially cheaper in the long run than competing for a very scarce resource with the rest of the world.

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Radictistan
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Postby Radictistan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:13 pm

I promise never to tell a joke again.

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Postby Theodosiya » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:15 pm

Funny idea, let navy transports & sea lift to be used in commercial purposes. Good way to put more money into Navy coffer. OTOH, must not really impact readiness and in peaceful times. Alert time, back to Naval base .
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The Akasha Colony
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:24 pm

Theodosiya wrote:Funny idea, let navy transports & sea lift to be used in commercial purposes. Good way to put more money into Navy coffer. OTOH, must not really impact readiness and in peaceful times. Alert time, back to Naval base .


It wears them down and reduces readiness. Ships have lifetimes, and constant use wears out components that have to be replaced. Many specialist support ships have no commercial utility anyway. The whole reason the MSC got the Algols was because 33 knot fast transports were not economical.

And many of the USN's most useful ships are kept pre-stocked with equipment and supplies, which means they can't be used for commercial purposes without emptying them, reducing response time.
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The primary MT nation of this account is the Republic of Carthage.
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Republic of Carthage (MT)
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Kaiserreich Europa Zentral (PT/MT)
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Rich and Corporations
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:56 am

Theodosiya wrote:Funny idea, let navy transports & sea lift to be used in commercial purposes. Good way to put more money into Navy coffer. OTOH, must not really impact readiness and in peaceful times. Alert time, back to Naval base .

North Korea and the CIA use diplomatic transports to be used for the drug trade.

Uhh.

Not only what Akasha Colony said, but you will be competing with the private sector, putting them out of business, and making wartime shortages even worse.

Smarter to buy up unused cargo ships during a recession.
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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:57 am

Theodosiya wrote:Funny idea, let navy transports & sea lift to be used in commercial purposes. Good way to put more money into Navy coffer.


This is something an American management theorist-cum-economist would come up with.

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