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The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile
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Founded: Jul 12, 2015
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:04 pm

Hey all. I tried my hand at drawing armor a few months back, and largely forgot about it until now.

Looking back over my work I'm not too impressed with myself, and so I'm going to ask for constructive criticism and general pointers in what direction I should go to improve my skills.

Note that I know very little about tanks, much less scale or any of the conventions of this form of art.
Here is my original drawing:
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(Please excuse the treads, I know they're floating and awful.)

I appreciate any and all suggestions to help me improve.
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Slavakino
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Founded: Sep 25, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Slavakino » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:15 pm

The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:Hey all. I tried my hand at drawing armor a few months back, and largely forgot about it until now.

Looking back over my work I'm not too impressed with myself, and so I'm going to ask for constructive criticism and general pointers in what direction I should go to improve my skills.

Note that I know very little about tanks, much less scale or any of the conventions of this form of art.
Here is my original drawing:
(Image)
(Please excuse the treads, I know they're floating and awful.)

I appreciate any and all suggestions to help me improve.

Looks like a SPG
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Rostavykhan
Minister
 
Posts: 2187
Founded: Sep 30, 2017
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rostavykhan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:26 pm

The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:Hey all. I tried my hand at drawing armor a few months back, and largely forgot about it until now.

Looking back over my work I'm not too impressed with myself, and so I'm going to ask for constructive criticism and general pointers in what direction I should go to improve my skills.

Note that I know very little about tanks, much less scale or any of the conventions of this form of art.
Here is my original drawing:
(Image)
(Please excuse the treads, I know they're floating and awful.)

I appreciate any and all suggestions to help me improve.


The wheels look really small to me tbh. I feel like they should be a bit bigger in relation to the rest of the tank. Then again, I don't know if that's just a weird kind of suspension or not.

Other than that, I...don't know? It looks decent to me.
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Sevvania
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Postby Sevvania » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:01 am

Rostavykhan wrote:(Image)

I redrew parts of my AT rifle design, fixed up the stock and handguard and pistol grip and whatnot.

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Also, made a new uniform (the one on the Left) for my alt's army. This one is for Border Guards/Frontiersmen, while the normal uniform (Right) is for...well, normal soldiers. I figure the gas masks could be used by both though. Meh.

These are pretty awesome.
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:Hey all. I tried my hand at drawing armor a few months back, and largely forgot about it until now.

Looking back over my work I'm not too impressed with myself, and so I'm going to ask for constructive criticism and general pointers in what direction I should go to improve my skills.

Note that I know very little about tanks, much less scale or any of the conventions of this form of art.
Here is my original drawing:
(Image)
(Please excuse the treads, I know they're floating and awful.)

I appreciate any and all suggestions to help me improve.

It reminds me of the tank concepts from Aliens:
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Kassaran
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Founded: Jun 16, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Kassaran » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:18 am

That tank design doesn't actually look half bad. I'm feelin' that vibe just a little bit. Then again, I am a bigger fan of the church of MBT-70 and the crew being in the turret... or at least the turret being massive.
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Postby Crookfur » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:38 am

I think a bit of an issue is that it does kind of look like a tiger turret that's been mated with a stretched apc Hull. Maybe if the gun was a little bit longer, had no muzzle brake and wasn't so overbuilt? The Hull could probably be addressed by fewer and bigger road wheels and maybe a more consistent slope back to the turret.
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Gallia-
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Founded: Oct 09, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Gallia- » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:39 am

It doesn't look bad because it looks like the artist saw a picture of Merkava I and slapped the turret really far on the back so the gun could be drawn longer.

The fact that this was done at roughly the same time but real life tank designers only lends to its credence: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zn7uph4dqnt61 ... .jpg?raw=1

So it's typical late 1970s armor.

e: Oh the pixel art not the Aliens tank. Yeah that needs some fixing.
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Valkjarvi
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Founded: Nov 22, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Valkjarvi » Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:34 am

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A standard Valkjarvi Border Control (Piirikontrolli) patrol consisting of two officers (a senior constable on the left and a constable on the right) and standard-issue kei van. The 30-man Piirikontrolli is essentially the gendarmerie of the tiny microstate and is the only armed agency in the country. Pistol from JG ^^
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Drongonia
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Founded: Feb 11, 2019
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Postby Drongonia » Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:32 am

Just some boxes for my upcoming Defence Force page. Similar to the ones seen here: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=dro ... id=1212385

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Celritannia
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Posts: 18417
Founded: Nov 10, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Celritannia » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:57 am

Rostavykhan wrote:(Image)

I redrew parts of my AT rifle design, fixed up the stock and handguard and pistol grip and whatnot.

(Image)

Also, made a new uniform (the one on the Left) for my alt's army. This one is for Border Guards/Frontiersmen, while the normal uniform (Right) is for...well, normal soldiers. I figure the gas masks could be used by both though. Meh.


I have to say, that is one of the best helmet designs I have seen.
Am I right in assuming it is a merger of the British Shrapnel helmet and the German Stahlhelm?

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Drongonia
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Founded: Feb 11, 2019
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Postby Drongonia » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:15 am

More box-like site elements for my Drongonian Electoral Commission site - coming soon!

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Rostavykhan
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Founded: Sep 30, 2017
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rostavykhan » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:33 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Rostavykhan wrote:(Image)

I redrew parts of my AT rifle design, fixed up the stock and handguard and pistol grip and whatnot.

(Image)

Also, made a new uniform (the one on the Left) for my alt's army. This one is for Border Guards/Frontiersmen, while the normal uniform (Right) is for...well, normal soldiers. I figure the gas masks could be used by both though. Meh.


I have to say, that is one of the best helmet designs I have seen.
Am I right in assuming it is a merger of the British Shrapnel helmet and the German Stahlhelm?


To be totally honest? I didn't really intend to copy either, though I guess it does resemble the Stalhelm some. I took the Adrian helmet on the other uniform and kinda smoothed it out, and added the little knubs on the sides, to make it look like a simpler alternate helmet :p
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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:34 am

i draw bote

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1050 ft oal
1000 ft wl
130 ft 6 in beam
two nuke plants/280,000 shp on 4 screws
goddamn steam cats
2.5 mn gallons of jet fuel
1800 tons of ordnance majority is bombs obviously
75 tons of nuclear weapons (typical: 100x 500 lbs bombs (B57-type small tactical bomb); 50x 750 lbs tactical-strategic bombs (B61-type); 25x 2500 lbs strategic bombs (B83-type megaton city killer))
top speed is Top Secret(TM) [it's about 32 and change knots in good water]

two turbines for aux power generation and they consume fuel from the aviation bunkers

combat system is replicated to a more or less equivalent extent between the islands but the rear island has way better air control facilities (full ACLS setup, a TACAN, more SATCOMs, and a proper air control central) while the fore island is better equipped for AAW and general flag control (has a flag plot, the primary CIC elevator, captain's cabin, the AAW combat radars, and primary ESM and IFF masts, and the pilot house)

there are two CICs and the backup CIC acts as damage control central in normal situations; it has fewer AAW consoles but an equal number of sonar consoles, and it lacks a Big Board view so you need to take the elevator or something to see outside i guess

shipboard armament is:
- 32x VLS cells, usually packed with 96-128 PAC-3 type missiles
- 4x Mk 29 launchers with ESSM and RAM
- 4x Phalanx guns (port/starboard fore quarters; two on bridge amidships
- 2x SeaRAM (fantail)
- 2x Mk 16 "matchbox" with no reloads carried (typical is 4x "LR-ASROC" [HAAWC wingkit on a bigger booster or a turbojet stack for ~30 km surface launch range]; 4x Harpoon Blk II+ ER)
- 6x .50 caliber machine guns
- a few hundred sailors armed with M16s, recoilless rifles, and Stinger missiles

Habitation for ~4850 crew (3050 ship + 1800 airwing [this is because the billet manning is equivalent to CVW-9 surge + some extras in the V-2 division] or so abouts) comfortably (triple bunks for OR, double bunks for jr officers and warrants, and cabins for senior officers); there are about 200 bunk spots for masters-at-arms and a few BMs who serve as the ship's landing party (one rifle company + landing/shore control team); they can be landed in 1 waves using the ship's ~2 50' motor boats and the RHIB, with another motor boat as escort and a fourth as delivery vehicle for the swimmer platoon because each carrier has a swimmer platoon of 15 men aboard for landing reconnaissance

the extra 50 accounts for the Boy rates because real navies have cabin boys who fetch coffee and Boys who help the boatswains swab the deck and paint UNREP signs on the side of the ship

about 1% of a given crew is between the age of 16-18 and considered Boys

nominal air wing is 24x VAL; 24x VF; 12x VAM; 12x ASW + Tanker; and several detachments from jamming, ELINT, helicopter, and maybe a COD squadron
carrier copter is H-3 sea king because of high fuel and long endurance plane guard + ASW w/ dipping sonar
frigate copter is H-60 because high speed for long range intercept of subs

in more forgiving air environments it sometimes swaps a VF for a VAM

tl;dr it's kitty hawk sized CVN and armed like it too


he sail
him go
honku honku
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Celritannia
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Celritannia » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:24 am

Rostavykhan wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
I have to say, that is one of the best helmet designs I have seen.
Am I right in assuming it is a merger of the British Shrapnel helmet and the German Stahlhelm?


To be totally honest? I didn't really intend to copy either, though I guess it does resemble the Stalhelm some. I took the Adrian helmet on the other uniform and kinda smoothed it out, and added the little knubs on the sides, to make it look like a simpler alternate helmet :p


I think it's the best helmet (although alternate) I've seen for that time period.

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Drongonia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Drongonia » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:13 pm

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Just this for a FUX News story

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:45 am

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Kattsun you know you are way too good at this right? Umu ty.
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Altesia
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Founded: Oct 08, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Altesia » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:17 am

All these designs are actually incredible! How do you even make them?
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Drongonia
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Postby Drongonia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:47 am

New banner which appears on all of my website-style factbook designs.

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Drongonia
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Postby Drongonia » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:53 pm

le licence has arrived
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Aushweizland
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Founded: Feb 12, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Aushweizland » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:59 pm

Drongonia wrote:le licence has arrived
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Hmm these two gentlemen seem like good honest people
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Husseinarti
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Ex-Nation

Postby Husseinarti » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:44 am

Gallia- wrote:i draw bote

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1050 ft oal
1000 ft wl
130 ft 6 in beam
two nuke plants/280,000 shp on 4 screws
goddamn steam cats
2.5 mn gallons of jet fuel
1800 tons of ordnance majority is bombs obviously
75 tons of nuclear weapons (typical: 100x 500 lbs bombs (B57-type small tactical bomb); 50x 750 lbs tactical-strategic bombs (B61-type); 25x 2500 lbs strategic bombs (B83-type megaton city killer))
top speed is Top Secret(TM) [it's about 32 and change knots in good water]

two turbines for aux power generation and they consume fuel from the aviation bunkers

combat system is replicated to a more or less equivalent extent between the islands but the rear island has way better air control facilities (full ACLS setup, a TACAN, more SATCOMs, and a proper air control central) while the fore island is better equipped for AAW and general flag control (has a flag plot, the primary CIC elevator, captain's cabin, the AAW combat radars, and primary ESM and IFF masts, and the pilot house)

there are two CICs and the backup CIC acts as damage control central in normal situations; it has fewer AAW consoles but an equal number of sonar consoles, and it lacks a Big Board view so you need to take the elevator or something to see outside i guess

shipboard armament is:
- 32x VLS cells, usually packed with 96-128 PAC-3 type missiles
- 4x Mk 29 launchers with ESSM and RAM
- 4x Phalanx guns (port/starboard fore quarters; two on bridge amidships
- 2x SeaRAM (fantail)
- 2x Mk 16 "matchbox" with no reloads carried (typical is 4x "LR-ASROC" [HAAWC wingkit on a bigger booster or a turbojet stack for ~30 km surface launch range]; 4x Harpoon Blk II+ ER)
- 6x .50 caliber machine guns
- a few hundred sailors armed with M16s, recoilless rifles, and Stinger missiles

Habitation for ~4850 crew (3050 ship + 1800 airwing [this is because the billet manning is equivalent to CVW-9 surge + some extras in the V-2 division] or so abouts) comfortably (triple bunks for OR, double bunks for jr officers and warrants, and cabins for senior officers); there are about 200 bunk spots for masters-at-arms and a few BMs who serve as the ship's landing party (one rifle company + landing/shore control team); they can be landed in 1 waves using the ship's ~2 50' motor boats and the RHIB, with another motor boat as escort and a fourth as delivery vehicle for the swimmer platoon because each carrier has a swimmer platoon of 15 men aboard for landing reconnaissance

the extra 50 accounts for the Boy rates because real navies have cabin boys who fetch coffee and Boys who help the boatswains swab the deck and paint UNREP signs on the side of the ship

about 1% of a given crew is between the age of 16-18 and considered Boys

nominal air wing is 24x VAL; 24x VF; 12x VAM; 12x ASW + Tanker; and several detachments from jamming, ELINT, helicopter, and maybe a COD squadron
carrier copter is H-3 sea king because of high fuel and long endurance plane guard + ASW w/ dipping sonar
frigate copter is H-60 because high speed for long range intercept of subs

in more forgiving air environments it sometimes swaps a VF for a VAM

tl;dr it's kitty hawk sized CVN and armed like it too


he sail
him go
honku honku




these aren't good to much blue and gray

haha who even has a navy in 2019

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