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Elektrograd
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Founded: May 03, 2014
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Elektrograd » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:00 pm

Korva wrote:no


You insult me for the very last time, fiend.

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Gallia-
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Founded: Oct 09, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Gallia- » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:00 pm

New Oyashima wrote:
Gallia- wrote:(Image)

Spess


s p e h s
p
e
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[hi :3]

Elektrograd wrote:
Korva wrote:no


You insult me for the very last time, fiend.

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their faces are like

moai tier

e: is everything (boots/guns/etc.) textured or is that just a really really fine gradient?
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Elektrograd
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Elektrograd » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:09 pm

Gallia- wrote:
their faces are like

moai tier



cos Elektro troops are rock hard, baby, not soft.

Gallia- wrote:e: is everything (boots/guns/etc.) textured or is that just a really really fine gradient?


It's just shading and some lighting in places, done with a brush, no automatic gradients or rgb noise textures used. The guns were originally drawn by Korva, so you can be sure there is no AA hackery that I use there.
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Gallia-
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Gallia- » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:14 pm

Elektrograd wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
their faces are like

moai tier



cos Elektro troops are rock hard, baby, not soft.


>not even traps/10

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also what is the stick thing the TLs have?

Elektrograd wrote:
Gallia- wrote:e: is everything (boots/guns/etc.) textured or is that just a really really fine gradient?


It's just shading and some lighting in places, done with a brush, no automatic gradients or rgb noise textures used. The guns were originally drawn by Korva, so you can be sure there is no AA hackery that I use there.


oic

that's some hard light shifts v. noticeable

gud

i may exp. with such things Soon(tm)

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Elektrograd
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Founded: May 03, 2014
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Elektrograd » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:20 pm

Gallia- wrote:also what is the stick thing the TLs have?


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Sevvania
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Posts: 6893
Founded: Nov 12, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Sevvania » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:02 am

G11 bayonet is glory and I dig that camo pattern.
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Current Era: 1945
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New Visegrad
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Founded: May 30, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby New Visegrad » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:08 pm

well jeez guys ya made me do it

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Not a full squad because fuuuuuuuuuck drawing individual poses for each weapon. You'll just have to use your imagination.

Early-issue GDL armour was generally similar to the light infantry equipment of the UN forces that preceded it. However, production of heavy infantry armour was discontinued in favour of increased output of the lighter rigs, allowing production to keep pace with the GDL's rapid military expansion.

Issue of heavier armour resumed by the 3900s once the League felt more secure. However, development of improved infantry armour and weapons was rarely a priority, and by the War of 4404 League infantry systems were wildly outclassed by rebel PANTHER armour and gausstech weapons.

From 3548, League standard 6.8mm ammunition included a harmonic alloy jacket on every third round, allowing the bullets to be telekinetically manipulated by the League's "hopper" officers.
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Capital: March City
Affiliation: Core Governance
Tech level: FT/Multiverse
Post-apocalyptic hypertechnological corporate/bureaucratic militaristic multispecies semi-utopia.
It is the year 4411. After a devastating galactic war between the authoritarian Galactic Defense League and an alliance of breakaway factions seeking to overturn the fascist government, a new socialist state - the Core Governance - seeks to rebuild a unified, peaceful galaxy where everyone can live in safety.
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New Oyashima
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Founded: Oct 01, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby New Oyashima » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:16 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Elektrograd wrote:
cos Elektro troops are rock hard, baby, not soft.


>not even traps/10

Image

Image

also what is the stick thing the TLs have?

Elektrograd wrote:
It's just shading and some lighting in places, done with a brush, no automatic gradients or rgb noise textures used. The guns were originally drawn by Korva, so you can be sure there is no AA hackery that I use there.


oic

that's some hard light shifts v. noticeable

gud

i may exp. with such things Soon(tm)


THAT POWER ARMOR THO


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Sevvania
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Founded: Nov 12, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Sevvania » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:16 pm

New Visegrad wrote:well jeez guys ya made me do it

([url=https://i.imgur.com/42Ki9l9.png]Image)[/url]
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Not a full squad because fuuuuuuuuuck drawing individual poses for each weapon. You'll just have to use your imagination.

Early-issue GDL armour was generally similar to the light infantry equipment of the UN forces that preceded it. However, production of heavy infantry armour was discontinued in favour of increased output of the lighter rigs, allowing production to keep pace with the GDL's rapid military expansion.

Issue of heavier armour resumed by the 3900s once the League felt more secure. However, development of improved infantry armour and weapons was rarely a priority, and by the War of 4404 League infantry systems were wildly outclassed by rebel PANTHER armour and gausstech weapons.

From 3548, League standard 6.8mm ammunition included a harmonic alloy jacket on every third round, allowing the bullets to be telekinetically manipulated by the League's "hopper" officers.

is gud

I have been doing guns
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Torrocca
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Founded: Dec 01, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Torrocca » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 pm

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A Torrossiyan footsoldier, armed with a plasma rifle, from the far future of grimdarkness
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Anemos Major
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Founded: Jun 01, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Anemos Major » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:55 pm

The APC variant of the MA12 family of 6x6 vehicles.

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Corindia
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Founded: May 29, 2016
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Corindia » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:06 pm

Anemos Major wrote:The APC variant of the MA12 family of 6x6 vehicles.


ooh, very nice

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Anemos Major
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Founded: Jun 01, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Anemos Major » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:35 pm

Corindia wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:The APC variant of the MA12 family of 6x6 vehicles.


ooh, very nice


kind thanks! there'll be one more piece of lineart with a 105mm gun crammed on top of the CRV chassis, and then I should be able to call it a day (for once) with this vehicle family.

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Danubian Peoples
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Founded: Sep 21, 2018
New York Times Democracy

Postby Danubian Peoples » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:31 am

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Lore for the above weapon:

The Kaisergewehr 33 was created in the year of 1934, hence its name, under personal orders from Emperor Karl von Habsburg as part of an effort to standardize the infantry arms of the USGA (United States of Greater Austria)'s many different constituents, especially the north German states, who had historically been using Prussian designs that were manufactured under Prussian standards, and as such required production lines separate from the standard, for things like ammunition, gun modifications and more. To add to that the world was seeing the worst economic depression in the last 50 years, and as such the need for a standardized production model to produce equipment efficiently was greater than ever. Several companies would come together to create the Kaisergewehr 34, having to overcome obstacles like the substitution of metal with wood due to a shortage of the former caused by the economic slump and disagreements between manufacturers over the specifics. Eventually they reached a suitable design, and after weeks of fine-tuning, it was ready for mass production. A nationwide switch was introduced the same year, and the army began training with the new weapon. By 1936, it had become one of the USGA's most dependable firearms, and had served its duties mainly overseas as a rifle for volunteer corps sent to maintain the USGA's position as global superpower. Several changes had also been made over its service, with the introduction of a detachable gun handle located in front of the trigger and the replacement of a 30 round box magazine with a 75 round single drum magazine. The picture listed above contains the most up do date version of the firearm.

Specifications:
Caliber: 7.92 mm
RoF: 400-500 RPM
Magazine size: 75 rounds
Automatic: yes
Again, please do send criticisms, this time on the lore and specifics for this weapon.
Last edited by Danubian Peoples on Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:54 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Sorry for any mistakes I make with regards to history while roleplaying in historical RPs. Also I am not a qualified historian or academic. None of the make-believe I do is likely to stand up to academic scrutiny.

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Valkiir
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Founded: Jan 31, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Valkiir » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:38 pm

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The Valkiir Draugr Exoskeleton Assisted combat armor trooper. This heavy Infantryman can carry more than his own weight in armor, personal kit, weapons and ammunition. Each man also f\caries additional ammunition for the squads heavy weapons men
Each Squad consists of

Squad Leader/rifleman
Asst Squad Leader/rifleman
4 riflemen, with assault rifles, a disposable offensive launcher( non shaped charge panzerfaust type weapon) several grenades and 40mm grenades for their rifles.
2 Automatic Riflemen with higher powered squad automatic with considerably more ammunition.
2 Grenadiers, armed with multiple types of hand grenades, multiple Offensive Launchers, RPG and additional 40mm grenades
2 Heavy Gunners, armed with 7.62mm Miniguns an several hundred pounds of ammunition and backpack mounted power unit for the gun for it.

the average duration of a single load of fuel and batteries an keep the Armor operational at full power for 10 hours, and operating at minimal output for 20 hours. Missions for shock assault squads typically are planned to be much shorter, with the unit being inserted, assaulting and withdrawing to be replaced by conventional forces once the assign target is neutralized, seized or has repelled the assault.


when deployed for longer durations the unit has multiple transport vehicles, weapons carriers and light IFVs to carry its sizable supply load, provide support fire, and deploy the unit near assault zones to decrease the drain on supplies for the unit.
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Korva
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Founded: Apr 22, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Korva » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:14 pm

Danubian Peoples wrote:
Lore for the above weapon:

The Kaisergewehr 33 was created in the year of 1934, hence its name, under personal orders from Emperor Karl von Habsburg as part of an effort to standardize the infantry arms of the USGA (United States of Greater Austria)'s many different constituents, especially the north German states, who had historically been using Prussian designs that were manufactured under Prussian standards, and as such required production lines separate from the standard, for things like ammunition, gun modifications and more. To add to that the world was seeing the worst economic depression in the last 50 years, and as such the need for a standardized production model to produce equipment efficiently was greater than ever. Several companies would come together to create the Kaisergewehr 34, having to overcome obstacles like the substitution of metal with wood due to a shortage of the former caused by the economic slump and disagreements between manufacturers over the specifics. Eventually they reached a suitable design, and after weeks of fine-tuning, it was ready for mass production. A nationwide switch was introduced the same year, and the army began training with the new weapon. By 1936, it had become one of the USGA's most dependable firearms, and had served its duties mainly overseas as a rifle for volunteer corps sent to maintain the USGA's position as global superpower. Several changes had also been made over its service, with the introduction of a detachable gun handle located in front of the trigger and the replacement of a 30 round box magazine with a 75 round single drum magazine. The picture listed above contains the most up do date version of the firearm.

Specifications:
Caliber: 7.92 mm
RoF: 400-500 RPM
Magazine size: 75 rounds
Automatic: yes
Again, please do send criticisms, this time on the lore and specifics for this weapon.

Either the magazine is too small or the gun is huge.
Valkiir wrote:snip

You should pose those oily boys so the guns aren't floating.
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Do what?

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Gallia-
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Founded: Oct 09, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Gallia- » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:15 pm

Valkiir wrote:(Image)

The Valkiir Draugr Exoskeleton Assisted combat armor trooper. This heavy Infantryman can carry more than his own weight in armor, personal kit, weapons and ammunition. Each man also f\caries additional ammunition for the squads heavy weapons men
Each Squad consists of

Squad Leader/rifleman
Asst Squad Leader/rifleman
4 riflemen, with assault rifles, a disposable offensive launcher( non shaped charge panzerfaust type weapon) several grenades and 40mm grenades for their rifles.
2 Automatic Riflemen with higher powered squad automatic with considerably more ammunition.
2 Grenadiers, armed with multiple types of hand grenades, multiple Offensive Launchers, RPG and additional 40mm grenades
2 Heavy Gunners, armed with 7.62mm Miniguns an several hundred pounds of ammunition and backpack mounted power unit for the gun for it.

the average duration of a single load of fuel and batteries an keep the Armor operational at full power for 10 hours, and operating at minimal output for 20 hours. Missions for shock assault squads typically are planned to be much shorter, with the unit being inserted, assaulting and withdrawing to be replaced by conventional forces once the assign target is neutralized, seized or has repelled the assault.


when deployed for longer durations the unit has multiple transport vehicles, weapons carriers and light IFVs to carry its sizable supply load, provide support fire, and deploy the unit near assault zones to decrease the drain on supplies for the unit.


G U D
U
D

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New Visegrad
Minister
 
Posts: 2652
Founded: May 30, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby New Visegrad » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:38 pm

Korva wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:well jeez guys ya made me do it

Do what?

Draw a picture of a fightmans with some pictures of his kit next to him

it is the trend and I'm nothing if not trendy
(Art) -- People who get DEATed usually deserve it.
New Visegrad region - “One man stood tall and in the face of evil roared”
Capital: March City
Affiliation: Core Governance
Tech level: FT/Multiverse
Post-apocalyptic hypertechnological corporate/bureaucratic militaristic multispecies semi-utopia.
It is the year 4411. After a devastating galactic war between the authoritarian Galactic Defense League and an alliance of breakaway factions seeking to overturn the fascist government, a new socialist state - the Core Governance - seeks to rebuild a unified, peaceful galaxy where everyone can live in safety.
Brit. Concept artist (hire me). If you like to call people "SJWs" I'm probably one of them.

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Valkiir
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Founded: Jan 31, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Valkiir » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:59 pm

Gallia- wrote:[

G U D
U
D

Thanks, appreciate it.
Korva wrote:
Valkiir wrote:snip

You should pose those oily boys so the guns aren't floating.

yes, yes I should....the skeleton I am using for these guys is pretty basic, no hand articulation.....and my posing skills are pretty ...ummm underdeveloped

I have tried putting straps and slings on them to show they are being held suspended, but not much success in making it look right. My skills are pretty basic in some areas...sigh..I really should take a lesson or three.

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Crookfur
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Ex-Nation

Postby Crookfur » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:16 pm

Danubian Peoples wrote:
Lore for the above weapon:

The Kaisergewehr 33 was created in the year of 1934, hence its name, under personal orders from Emperor Karl von Habsburg as part of an effort to standardize the infantry arms of the USGA (United States of Greater Austria)'s many different constituents, especially the north German states, who had historically been using Prussian designs that were manufactured under Prussian standards, and as such required production lines separate from the standard, for things like ammunition, gun modifications and more. To add to that the world was seeing the worst economic depression in the last 50 years, and as such the need for a standardized production model to produce equipment efficiently was greater than ever. Several companies would come together to create the Kaisergewehr 34, having to overcome obstacles like the substitution of metal with wood due to a shortage of the former caused by the economic slump and disagreements between manufacturers over the specifics. Eventually they reached a suitable design, and after weeks of fine-tuning, it was ready for mass production. A nationwide switch was introduced the same year, and the army began training with the new weapon. By 1936, it had become one of the USGA's most dependable firearms, and had served its duties mainly overseas as a rifle for volunteer corps sent to maintain the USGA's position as global superpower. Several changes had also been made over its service, with the introduction of a detachable gun handle located in front of the trigger and the replacement of a 30 round box magazine with a 75 round single drum magazine. The picture listed above contains the most up do date version of the firearm.

Specifications:
Caliber: 7.92 mm
RoF: 400-500 RPM
Magazine size: 75 rounds
Automatic: yes
Again, please do send criticisms, this time on the lore and specifics for this weapon.

You really need to use references to get the scaling right, keep a picture of something that is vaguely comparable open behind where you are work so you can check the various bits are the right size compared to each other.

I'm assuming it's meant to a SMG? It might help to mention that somewhere. You also want to specify which 7. 92mm round its chambered in. I'm assuming it's a home brew cartridge.

The rof is pretty low so you would probably have to mention how that is achieved when you describe the action.

The rest of the blurb is OK but doesn't really tell us much. One thing I would point out is that in a firearm there generally isn't anywhere that you can replace mental with wood and if you are looking to make a gun cheaper and easier to make then the general rule is to go the other way and ditch the wood, stripping the gun down to it bare essentials. This is basically what happened with everyone in ww2 with stuff like the the sten and M3. It could be done in the 30s as well as the MP36/38/40 development shows.
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Danubian Peoples
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Posts: 1157
Founded: Sep 21, 2018
New York Times Democracy

Postby Danubian Peoples » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:51 pm

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(Cut out the lore, will work on later)

Kaisergewehr 34 SMG
Specifications:
Round: 7.92 mm Kaiser Karl Cartridge, made specifically for this new generation of SMGs
RoF 550-600 RPM
Magazine size:35 rounds
Automatic: yes
Again, please do send criticisms, this time on the lore and specifics for this weapon.

I've reworked the weapon stats a little and changed the size of things like the other gun handle (what do you call that anyway?) and the drum magazine for more realistic proportions, like you guys suggested. I also cut out the lore due to the issues with it you guys noted.
Last edited by Danubian Peoples on Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
NS stats are not used.
This nation does not reflect my IRL views on anything.
Sorry for any mistakes I make with regards to history while roleplaying in historical RPs. Also I am not a qualified historian or academic. None of the make-believe I do is likely to stand up to academic scrutiny.

Valdez Islands is my puppet.

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New Visegrad
Minister
 
Posts: 2652
Founded: May 30, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby New Visegrad » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:22 pm

Danubian Peoples wrote:I've reworked the weapon stats a little and changed the size of things like the other gun handle (what do you call that anyway?) and the drum magazine for more realistic proportions, like you guys suggested. I also cut out the lore due to the issues with it you guys noted.

I feel like the barrel is a little narrow, but maybe that's just me. I'm not great at visualising round sizes.

The two grips you've got are the...grip (the one built into the stock, where the trigger is) and the foregrip, or more specifically a vertical foregrip. Honestly, there weren't that many vertical foregrips in that style on real-life 30's SMGs, but that's an artistic license you can get away with. It might be a bit too close to the trigger though - if you imagine yourself holding this thing, if you're really hunched up then it's probably too close.


Speaking of artistic license!

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This goes with that set of space knight trading cards I posted a while back. You can find it if you look back far enough, but I'm still working on it so expect a (better) repost in the near-to-mid future.
(Art) -- People who get DEATed usually deserve it.
New Visegrad region - “One man stood tall and in the face of evil roared”
Capital: March City
Affiliation: Core Governance
Tech level: FT/Multiverse
Post-apocalyptic hypertechnological corporate/bureaucratic militaristic multispecies semi-utopia.
It is the year 4411. After a devastating galactic war between the authoritarian Galactic Defense League and an alliance of breakaway factions seeking to overturn the fascist government, a new socialist state - the Core Governance - seeks to rebuild a unified, peaceful galaxy where everyone can live in safety.
Brit. Concept artist (hire me). If you like to call people "SJWs" I'm probably one of them.

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Danubian Peoples
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Posts: 1157
Founded: Sep 21, 2018
New York Times Democracy

Postby Danubian Peoples » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:42 pm

New Visegrad wrote:[snip]


Image

I checked and the bullet fits through the barrel. Also I moved the foregrip away from the trigger, even changed the shape of the gun to accommodate it. I tried visualizing someone holding it, and the hunch thingy happened, so I took your advice. Does this look better now?
NS stats are not used.
This nation does not reflect my IRL views on anything.
Sorry for any mistakes I make with regards to history while roleplaying in historical RPs. Also I am not a qualified historian or academic. None of the make-believe I do is likely to stand up to academic scrutiny.

Valdez Islands is my puppet.

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