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[Gondolaulus]

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wet weather gear is gay af

I guess the navy designed it then :^)

[Questers]

tfw youre a thalassocracy but the army manages to persuade everyone the navy are all gays

[Dostanuot Loj]

Although FAMAS had a switch that allowed trained troops to ignore 3rd burst and just go with a SEF fire selector, while conscripts got theirs pinned to S-1-3.

FAMAS was never pinned.
French Army training pretty much never included using the burst mode after initial introduction. SEF was the standard operating approach.
Gendarmes troops were institutionally required to keep it in burst though.

Either way the system can't be pinned to one or the other, and there is nothing stopping the individual from switching.

[The Soodean Imperium]

The draft/professional status of the US military has never been a factor in choosing rifle firing modes.

The M16A1 was fielded when the US still had an active draft and was fully automatic. The M14 was also introduced as an automatic weapon while the US had a drafted force.

The M16A2 which introduced the burst-fire mode was introduced after the US transitioned to an all-volunteer force and ended the draft.

The US still has an all-volunteer force and brought back fully automatic fire with M4A1.

you're probably right but a factor in going with burst over auto was real or perceived ammo wasting which would probably happen more with conscripts than with professional

The actual Soviet Union decided to replace SKS with AK-47 (pre-AKM). And they made this decision not long after the SKS came into service.
This was at a time when the Soviet Army was entirely composed of conscripts and Stalin was still in power and had resumed his paranoid purges.

If anything, a fully automatic option is more attractive for poorly trained forces because it lets them compensate for poor marksmanship with a greater volume of fire, though as in the US military there will be many other perceptions and motives circling around in the decision-making process.


At any rate, it's worth remembering that the "incompetent conscripts" generalization isn't as consistent as it first seems. Israel, Singapore, and South Korea have universal service, but are regarded as fairly advanced militaries; Iraq, Afghanistan, and the DR Congo have volunteer armies but suffer from low morale, poor professionalism, and widespread desertion. Ceteris Paribus, one can argue that a volunteer force would have better morale than an otherwise identical conscript one, and certainly better skill retention among personnel dealing with advanced equipment. And Prosorusiya's question was about emergency reservists, which are the bottom of the barrel in these fields. But conscript/volunteer status doesn't magically transform one's ability to shoot accurately or conserve ammunition, and is one out of many factors that impact training and professionalism.

[Questers]

Soldiery is something people acquire from training. Where good soldiers have been made without rigorous training, it is because their lifestyles prior to service conditioned them very well for soldiery. Otherwise, a school of musketry can teach any person, conscript or volunteer to shoot to a uniform standard.

[Stasnov]

Does anyone know the legit Russian/Soviet tactical call sign scheme or system, if there is one?

[Questers]

Does anyone know the legit Russian/Soviet tactical call sign scheme or system, if there is one?

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[Imperializt Russia]

Newt Gingrich said that any federal employee who voted Dem should be fired.
Luckily, no-one cares what he thinks.

More worrying is the dismissal of all US ambassadors without replacement. This leaves the US without diplomatic ties to any country, including ones where the relationship is very sensitive. It also suggests that Trump would want to fill all ambassadorial positions with idealogues and lackies - Ivanka has apparently expressed interest in becoming the US ambassador to the Czech Republic.

What the fuck? You realize that the bulk of American European/NATO ambassadorships are literally gifts to campaign donors, right? Those people weren't "dismissed", they voluntarily resigned. Why? Because that's the tradition that happens when a new administration comes into office. The only reason you're surprised is because you were like 14 when Obama got elected the first time and all of Bush's political appointments resigned or got ass destroyed and told to leave when the new ambassador arrives.

Wait, let me list Obama's campaign donor ambassadorships and let's see if we can piece together which ones Trump is going to replace:

- Argentina
- Austria
- Belgium
- Canada
- Costa Rica
- Czech Republic
- Dominican Republic
- Finland
- France/Monaco
- Germany
- Hungary
- Iceland
- Morocco
- New Zealand/Samoa
- Portugal
- Singapore
- Spain/Andorra
- Switzerland/Liechtenstein
- United Kingdom
- UN/Geneva
- UN/HRC
- UNESCO

Trump didn't gut the civil service, instead a bunch of people decided to resign. For the time being, the charge d'affairs of the American embassies, invariably a competent Foreign Service Officer, runs these embassies until Trump has rewarded his campaign's donors with ambassadorships to European allies. The major difference is that Trump is promoting people based less on their campaign donations and more on their perceived loyalty or outsider status from Big Money and the Beltway, but that's the same sort of nepotism that you see in American political appointments anyway so who_cares.

It's literally irrelevant because the ambassador's job is to be a pinstriped cookie pusher. He takes pictures with leaders, drinks tea, and generally is useless. The FSOs and any other other Civil Service officers do the heavy lifting/actual work behind the scenes.

Besides, Trump can't be much worse than Obama was. He appointed a fucking soap opera producer as the ambassador of Hungary.

http://www.npr.org/2014/02/12/275897092 ... appointees

I'm fully aware that it's common for ambassadors to be dismissed at the end of their term.

It's usually common for them to have replacements lined up and ready to go, and for some - perhaps those with children - to be permitted to remain in their posts for a time to make arrangements for their families.
To my understanding, there has been a blanket dismissal with very few replacements already available.

[Chezzetcook]

Is a 120mm mortar like the RT F1 a viable replacement for light pack howitzers for airborne forces? Or would it be good to retain a few howitzers for light forces as well.

This would be primarily for airborne forces focused on operating against other light and irregular forces at rapid notice, not against peer mechanized troops.

[Stasnov]

Does anyone know the legit Russian/Soviet tactical call sign scheme or system, if there is one?

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Should i take this as a yes?

[Gallia-]

tfw youre a thalassocracy but the army manages to persuade everyone the navy are all gays

tfw what's long hard and full seamen?

[Allanea]

The actual Soviet Union decided to replace SKS with AK-47 (pre-AKM). And they made this decision not long after the SKS came into service.
This was at a time when the Soviet Army was entirely composed of conscripts and Stalin was still in power and had resumed his paranoid purges.

If anything, a fully automatic option is more attractive for poorly trained forces because it lets them compensate for poor marksmanship with a greater volume of fire, though as in the US military there will be many other perceptions and motives circling around in the decision-making process.

As I keep hammering about whenever this issue comes up, marksmanship is not hard to master on an acceptable level for a literate person. Anyone intelligent enough to operate a cordless drill or a hammer or drive a car or generally do any of the regular task people do in the workplace can operate a firearm in a basic manner.

Furthermore, one of the functions of the infantry automatic weapon is to be used for automatic fire at long range, in either a suppressive function or outright trying to kill someone through what the Soviets called 'generating a density of fire'. The logic was that if you gave your troops a certain area target to shoot at and they would should their AKs in that direction to create a 'density' of X bullets per meter of front per minute, then they would either make the enemy go to ground or introduce a certain casualty rate (a given percent out of the enemy force). Doing so with a semi-automatic weapon is slightly harder, of course, and even harder with an SKS specifically due to its smaller magazine capacity. Doing so with a bolt-action is impossible outright.

[Gondolaulus]

Just open some schools of marksmanship where people can get firearms training (for free!) in the evenings or so.

I mean, it kind of does the job.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

gangs in the military wat

i realize this is old news but i expected recruitment to be more selective lol

[Saint Fedski]

I'm fully aware that it's common for ambassadors to be dismissed at the end of their term.

It's usually common for them to have replacements lined up and ready to go, and for some - perhaps those with children - to be permitted to remain in their posts for a time to make arrangements for their families.
To my understanding, there has been a blanket dismissal with very few replacements already available.

In general practice, and this too varies, they tender their resignation pretty immediately the president often doesn't immediately accept it. I believe, for instance, the Ambassador to Canada tendered his effective Jan. 20 and was ready to leave on or about that time.

The http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ambassadors-trump-canada-heyman-1.3923835 has tried to vilify Trump's process, but does show prior administrations have done pretty much the same thing, but that's acceptable because #nottrump Mind you, it's the CBC so its information should be taken with a shaker of salt.

[The Corparation]

gangs in the military wat

i realize this is old news but i expected recruitment to be more selective lol

It's impractical to do anything beyond a basic criminal background check for every person that enlists.if someone is in a gang but still has a clean record there isn't really a surefire fast and easy way to stop them from enlisting.

[Gallia-]

gangs in the military wat

i realize this is old news but i expected recruitment to be more selective lol

It's impractical to do anything beyond a basic criminal background check for every person that enlists.if someone is in a gang but still has a clean record there isn't really a surefire fast and easy way to stop them from enlisting.

Check for tattoos.

Done.

[The Soodean Imperium]

Just open some schools of marksmanship where people can get firearms training (for free!) in the evenings or so.

I mean, it kind of does the job.

No, it's really more like "if you give your conscripts 3 to 4 months' regular infantry training, they will shoot about as well as a professional rifleman."

Though Prosorusiya's original post was about calling up emergency reservists who left the army five-plus years ago; I'm not sure how quickly marksmanship ability would atrophy in civilian life, or how well occasional reservist refresher courses would preserve it.

[Austrasien]

Is a 120mm mortar like the RT F1 a viable replacement for light pack howitzers for airborne forces? Or would it be good to retain a few howitzers for light forces as well.

This would be primarily for airborne forces focused on operating against other light and irregular forces at rapid notice, not against peer mechanized troops.

Yes.

Pack howitzers have basically vanished from the face of the earth because of the superiority of heavy mortars.

[Gallia-]

bish i will fite u with m101 cuddlehowitzer

y not both

[Prosorusiya]

Just open some schools of marksmanship where people can get firearms training (for free!) in the evenings or so.

I mean, it kind of does the job.

No, it's really more like "if you give your conscripts 3 to 4 months' regular infantry training, they will shoot about as well as a professional rifleman."

Though Prosorusiya's original post was about calling up emergency reservists who left the army five-plus years ago; I'm not sure how quickly marksmanship ability would atrophy in civilian life, or how well occasional reservist refresher courses would preserve it.

I can see your argument, but some of those people called up would probably be pretty bottom of the barrel. I can't say wether or not they would be well trained or not given my already conscript heavy Army, which would give them some experience, but these would be people who would be called up after everybody else had already been drafted... or they would be Internal Troops who had turned in their weapons to arm the Army during wartime. Nevertheless, I assume the PPSh-41/43 is by this point too obsolete to be useful?

[Austrasien]

Just getting more AKs will always be easier. AKs are everywhere.

[Prosorusiya]

Ok, I'll probably do that then, and have my mobilized troops more resemble 1950s Soviet squads with AKMs (unmodernized, no folding stock), and RPD\PD's for fire support. That way, if I had to rearm my Internal Troops\3rd Line Troops they wouldn't have to take too much of a downgrade in terms of weaponry. I'm less worried about running out of ammo, that's fairly easy to produce, even if it's low quality, and I always have Russia to supply me if needed.

Speaking of mobilization in wartime: what kind of trucks that are common in Russia could be easily conscripted in during wartime? Are Ural 357s and Zil-131s/-157s still common or would the models be used.

Also, for further clarification I RP the MT era, but my tech level is about the same militarily as it was under the Soviet Union in 1990, as we are meant to be in a Ukraine like position where we haven't invested much in the military and are somewhat poor (but getting richer).

[Husseinarti]

Does anyone know the legit Russian/Soviet tactical call sign scheme or system, if there is one?

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wet weather gear is gay af

I guess the navy designed it then :^)

No its so fucking dumb.

Its p much just a really thick plastic jacket and pants. It doesn't alloy any breathing of the skin underneath, it doesn't have any heat dissociation, you cook under the bitch.

Also, like all TA-50, it has a really musky weird smell, like a cross between ballsacks and shitty storage conditions.

Ok, I'll probably do that then, and have my mobilized troops more resemble 1950s Soviet squads with AKMs (unmodernized, no folding stock), and RPD\PD's for fire support. That way, if I had to rearm my Internal Troops\3rd Line Troops they wouldn't have to take too much of a downgrade in terms of weaponry. I'm less worried about running out of ammo, that's fairly easy to produce, even if it's low quality, and I always have Russia to supply me if needed.

Speaking of mobilization in wartime: what kind of trucks that are common in Russia could be easily conscripted in during wartime? Are Ural 357s and Zil-131s/-157s still common or would the models be used.

Also, for further clarification I RP the MT era, but my tech level is about the same militarily as it was under the Soviet Union in 1990, as we are meant to be in a Ukraine like position where we haven't invested much in the military and are somewhat poor (but getting richer).

A 1950s Soviet squad only had a single AK in it for the squad leader, the rest of the riflemen having SKS rifles doe :<<<<<<<<<<<<

[Gallia-]

One would expect, if you want to keep water out, you wear thick plasticized/rubberized cloth jacket and pants?

How else are you going to fight in the megahurricanes of the future?