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by Chinese Peoples » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:31 pm
Allanea wrote:Any printing can be done at battalion headquarters. Issue four printers at the battalion level and be done.
by The Akasha Colony » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:43 pm
Chinese Peoples wrote:CPU consumes 25W, GPU 30W; that's reasonable by my standards.
It's a nice thing to have, if so.
They can look at the models in detail when they're planning the route; they can look at the general terrain with sufficient detail when starting to grasp the general environment. Aren't there territorial features, such as a well, that are physically small but should show up clearly due to their importance?
Don't they? I'd imagine soldiers would handle some of their own paperwork.
I think we can spare the perhaps $2 that would be needed to add a parallel port to a laptop.
My laptop (thinkpad P51s) has a discrete GPU, which is alternately in operation with the integrated Intel GPU controlled by the maxima chip or something of that nature that only runs the GPU when it's required, and the system enjoys a cozy ~12 hours battery life in actual usage. Add some swappable batteries, and battery life seems like a minor concern to me.
If there are USB printers as ubiquitous as you say they are, then perhaps there will be convenient places to charge said batteries, since you can't run conventional printers off USB power anyway.
Perhaps some good tech will be good for morale?
We're talking about accidental damage that can seriously hamper some operation if a back-up is not found soon; isn't this the same reason why there are always seconds-in-command in formations?
Like I say, this is about providing more information, not providing all the information there is.
If you know your target is in room 310, then perhaps a 3D visualization of the fact that there is a dumbwaiter leading into that room from the basement kitchen skipping the enemy-occupied lobby, wouldn't that be convenient?
I'm saying that the same can be done by the armed forces for their private use. If civilians can launch satellites, so can the state.
by Allanea » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:56 pm
Don't they? I'd imagine soldiers would handle some of their own paperwork.
by Kassaran » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:05 am
Allanea wrote:Don't they? I'd imagine soldiers would handle some of their own paperwork.
I served in the armed forces an an armorer (very briefly), as a computer technician/system administrator, and then as a personal assistant/secretary.
At no point has there been a need for individual enlisted men to just randomly print things for mission-related stuff, and if they needed to do Army paperwork, it would be printed out for them to fill out by the Human Resources clerks (which we had all of 3 of ).
We also had our very own plotter and our very own publishing office on-base!
Zarkenis Ultima wrote:Tristan noticed footsteps behind him and looked there, only to see Eric approaching and then pointing his sword at the girl. He just blinked a few times at this before speaking.
"Put that down, Mr. Eric." He said. "She's obviously not a chicken."
by Chinese Peoples » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:08 am
The Akasha Colony wrote:They can look at the models in detail when they're planning the route; they can look at the general terrain with sufficient detail when starting to grasp the general environment. Aren't there territorial features, such as a well, that are physically small but should show up clearly due to their importance?
No details that could be economically modeled across an entire country's worth of buildings.
The Akasha Colony wrote:Don't they? I'd imagine soldiers would handle some of their own paperwork.
In the middle of enemy territory?
The only time they'd need to print something is if they're back at the base. Where there should be printers of your own. Why would they be printing out forms from a random printer they found lying around? Beyond that, wasn't the whole point to reduce the need for actual paper in the first place?
The Akasha Colony wrote:I think we can spare the perhaps $2 that would be needed to add a parallel port to a laptop.
It's not cost. It's space and yet another port that needs to be kept clean. Each port is a place for dust and dirt ingress. And legacy ports are quite large.
The Akasha Colony wrote:My laptop (thinkpad P51s) has a discrete GPU, which is alternately in operation with the integrated Intel GPU controlled by the maxima chip or something of that nature that only runs the GPU when it's required, and the system enjoys a cozy ~12 hours battery life in actual usage. Add some swappable batteries, and battery life seems like a minor concern to me.
Except for the part where now the troops have to carry extra batteries. This is honestly getting worse and worse.
The Akasha Colony wrote:If there are USB printers as ubiquitous as you say they are, then perhaps there will be convenient places to charge said batteries, since you can't run conventional printers off USB power anyway.
So your troops just stop for a few hours every now and then to charge up in some random shack? This must be excellent news for any potential foe.
The Akasha Colony wrote:Perhaps some good tech will be good for morale?
Carrying around an 8 lb computer plus 2 lbs in power cords and probably another 2 lbs in batteries (at least) will be worse for morale than any benefit you might expect. The soldiers already have phones so most will be wondering why they need to lug these dumb laptops around.
The Akasha Colony wrote:We're talking about accidental damage that can seriously hamper some operation if a back-up is not found soon; isn't this the same reason why there are always seconds-in-command in formations?
It's not, actually. Executive officers have actual functions that are separate of the commanding officer. They don't just twiddle their thumbs waiting until the commanding officer gets killed.
The Akasha Colony wrote:Like I say, this is about providing more information, not providing all the information there is.
Not relevant information.
The Akasha Colony wrote:I'm saying that the same can be done by the armed forces for their private use. If civilians can launch satellites, so can the state.
Except they can't, because spectrum is limited.
The Akasha Colony wrote:The fundamental problem is that you've put the cart before the horse and are trying to grasp at straws to justify something you want OOC rather than actually thinking about whether such a device would be useful in the first place. And "useful" does not mean cooking up some terribly unlikely situation that is physically possible but so improbable as to beggar belief. It's just playing at pedantry.
The Akasha Colony wrote:At this point it's become pretty clear you're just looking for a rubber stamp of approval for your idea and are dead set on doing it either way, so I don't see it as worth anyone's time to continue this discussion.
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:25 am
by Allanea » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:30 am
And you seem to have persistently done the exact reverse: you conjure up scenarios where this device will be useless. A spoon is useless most of the day, and so will a gas mask be; yet when they are useful, they are. A laptop has additional functionality over a hand-held device, and you yourself have agreed to that. Instead of discussing those merits, we have been stuck discussing whether a parallel port will be useful. By my personal experience, I can tell you that it is, because it is an additional port, and not everyone is careless enough to spill water in parallel ports. If an environment is harsh enough that it will find its way through a parallel port, it will probably find its way through the Ethernet port or SD card reader too, and those are present on the Roughbook by Panasonic, in fact 2 of them. Backwards compatibility is good.
by Lamoni » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:31 am
Yes, so give it to me.
Licana on the M-21A2 MBT: "Well, it is one of the most badass tanks on NS."
Vortiaganica: Lamoni I understand fully, of course. The two (Lamoni & Lyras) are more inseparable than the Clinton family and politics.
Triplebaconation: Lamoni commands a quiet respect that carries its own authority. He is the Mandela of NS.
by The Akasha Colony » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:31 am
by Chinese Peoples » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:35 am
by The Akasha Colony » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:39 am
[size=125]This is my Nomination. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
[b]Nominee:[/b][/size]
by Lamoni » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:39 am
Chinese Peoples wrote:The Akasha Colony wrote:
No.Lamoni wrote:
You are not getting a rubber stamp. End of discussion.
Hey, this thread is about "realism", not about economy. My treasury can support issuing laptops. As long as it isn't impossible, I'm pretty satisfied, so by engaging in this discussion you have already given your stamps. Thank you.
Licana on the M-21A2 MBT: "Well, it is one of the most badass tanks on NS."
Vortiaganica: Lamoni I understand fully, of course. The two (Lamoni & Lyras) are more inseparable than the Clinton family and politics.
Triplebaconation: Lamoni commands a quiet respect that carries its own authority. He is the Mandela of NS.
by Chinese Peoples » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:40 am
by Lamoni » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:41 am
Licana on the M-21A2 MBT: "Well, it is one of the most badass tanks on NS."
Vortiaganica: Lamoni I understand fully, of course. The two (Lamoni & Lyras) are more inseparable than the Clinton family and politics.
Triplebaconation: Lamoni commands a quiet respect that carries its own authority. He is the Mandela of NS.
by The Corparation » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:44 am
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by Kassaran » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:48 am
Zarkenis Ultima wrote:Tristan noticed footsteps behind him and looked there, only to see Eric approaching and then pointing his sword at the girl. He just blinked a few times at this before speaking.
"Put that down, Mr. Eric." He said. "She's obviously not a chicken."
by Chinese Peoples » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:49 am
Spec | |
CPU | B11 Quadrionic, 8-core @ 1.5 GHz |
RAM | 8 GB, DDR4 |
Graphics | G11, 4-core @ 3.33 GHz; 4 GB VRAM GDDR5 |
Storage | 128 GB flash storage |
Display | 4.5", 401 dpi, 520 nits |
Networking | 5G wireless, Wifi, Bluetooth |
Battery | 40 hours audio playback |
I/O | charger, audio-out, SIM, Micro SD (addressable up to 2 TB of external storage), USB C 3.1 w/ Thunderbolt |
Camera | back, 12 MP; front, 6 MP; flashlight on both sides |
OS | Proprietary |
Other features | redial, haptic home button, volume up/down button, power button, wireless charge, rapid charge (50% in one hour), water resistant, dust resistant |
by The Akasha Colony » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:49 am
Chinese Peoples wrote:It doesn't seem like there's a rule against self-nomination this time, so:
This is my Nomination. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Nominee:Chinese Peoples
by Chinese Peoples » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:51 am
The Akasha Colony wrote:Chinese Peoples wrote:It doesn't seem like there's a rule against self-nomination this time, so:
This is my Nomination. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Nominee:Chinese Peoples
There's always a rule against self-nomination, just like there's a rule against re-nominating the current OP.
It should go without saying, unlike the 10-post restriction, which is newer.
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I didnt vote for Trump wrote:I feel like if more people went outside once in a while, a lot of these questions end up answering themselves.
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