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Postby Bisentrate » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:07 am

Worst capital punishment?

If somebody makes a massacre, he/she is executed.


If somebody makes a massacre of babies after having raped them, he/she is let going around with a sign reading "I'm Kalasparatan".


But this is a VERY last resource and luckily we were never forced to adopt this extreme measure.

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Postby Satirius » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:12 am

Allanea wrote:
Parivrtta Niraamaya wrote:
Allanea wrote:
Parivrtta Niraamaya wrote:Wait, what? I was talking to Kala.

I didn't think you would make space travel 1000 pounds per pound.


In an MT tech level, you can make space travel FAR cheaper than it is IRL, if you use Orions.


But... nukes cost money. A lot of money. I hardly think it's practical to always do it.

Why not use electric engines?



Consider this. It's estimated you can use 200 really-low-yield tacnukes to get 4,000 tons of gear into orbit.

Four. Thousand. Tons.

That is, you could be hefting ten International Space Stations into orbit.

Bear in mind, now that the rocket is reuseable, apart from the pusher plate.

A B-61-11 nuke costs $750,000, including developement costs. This is far more powerful than we need, but it's the cheapest nuke I found. Let's assume we need 200 of those nukes. Which we don't. The nukes would cost 150,000,000 between them, which would mean it would cost $37.5 per kilogram to do a launch. Naturally this doesn't include the cost of the rocket itself (but that is reuseable and would amortize over multiple launches), and doesn't account for the fact that you wouldn't need that many B-61s.


You still have the problem that all nukes have: radiation and fallout clouds. You would still need to use a chemical booster, which would have to carry the whole damn thing. Even electrics have this problem since they can't accelerate fast enough to escape Earth's gravity well. ORION was meant for deep space, not launch.
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Postby Allanea » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:16 am

1. No. Orion was designed for launch.

2. The total amount of nukes needed to launch a 4,000-ton Orion into space was estimated to be less than 2 megatons in yield and fallout. Even if we forget that modern nuclear weapons are designed to have minimal fallout compared to 1960's designs, thousands of nukes had been blown up already with minimal ill effects. Nuclear testing is safer than, say, coal mining.
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Postby Grandais » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:19 am

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Postby Mutant Lobster People » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:39 am

Parivrtta Niraamaya wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:12.We send you in a space ship to our space station prison and your cell is a 30cm by 30cm by 50cm fridge in space set at 5 degrees Celcius alone with no light only let out 10 minutes once a week to go to the toilet with your legs hand-caved together with both legs also using hand-caves are also hand caved to metal bars. These hand caves are extremlly tight. We put a camera in these cells and a microphone and on earth if we can hear you complaining (about pain, sickness, needing to go to the toilet, hunger ect) or having fun we electricute you from the bars. Your only food is one loaf of moldy, year-old bread and one cup of dirty water and 2 cups of expired milk. These rusty, fridges are 100 years old (with the most up to date temperature control) are extremlly dirty and never, ever get cleaned! Once you die, we send you back to earth where cut off all the waste, clean your organs for month then donate them and cremate the rest of your body.


So, you're willing to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on your prisoners? This is the EPITOME of wasteful. Not just that, you send them back safely.

Basically, you've blown billions of dollars on your worst prisoners. Good job.


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Postby Crookfur » Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:48 am

OOC:
I think a lot of people are over looking the fact that stage 4 of Kalasparata's revsied "process" is going to have a 99.9999999%* fatality rate so anything after that is just desecration of the dead, the deliberate wasting of potentially useful organs (because pretty much all the steps are going to seriously damage the organs) and a rather pointless waste of millions of dollars transporting dead bodies to space and back...

Of course if that is what is needed to satisfy his scatalogically obsessed national population then it is entirely up to him


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Postby Kiraj » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:04 am

The most severe punishment in Kiraj is death. Some jurisdictions do it by firing squad, some by hanging, some still use a sword. Clan retribution parties can occasionally be more creative in the manner of execution, but not often - that's a good way to start a clan war, which is generally inconvenient for all involved.

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Postby Seculartopia » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:11 am

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Postby UberWeegeeia » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:29 am

Rehabilition first, if it fails, prison, if THAT fails, 10 years extra in prison, if THAT fails also, death, and it's public, fun for everyone!
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We have so much more, infact, we have a tv channel that features excutions, it's like a sport here!
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:52 pm

We punish people for treason. The punishment is death. Officially, that death comes in the form of meltdown, but traitors will usually resist with armed force and end up getting blasted to bits where they stand, instead.

Orlkjestad wrote:
It's good to see someone else who seems to realise it's possible to avoid sinking down to the level of those you're punishing.

Here in Victorious Decepticons, we - at best - do not care for the silly concept of "levels" in that sense. Those with actual strength of arms and "intestinal" fortitude do not have to look for such flimsy ways to feel superior. It would actually be considered treason (specifically, "attempting to weaken the society by undermining the Decepticon Way") to spout such moralistic nonsense within our borders.

The reason the Decepticon government doesn't use more painful methods of punishment is purely one of strategy: The longer a prisoner is alive, the more chance he has of getting himself out of the jam. Treason, in all its forms, is the only thing that's illegal here, and a traitor managing to get away is a Bad Thing. So we delete them ASAP!
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Postby Turias » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:08 am

Either Death Penalty which is carried out in a series of improvised ways, or being exiled and having you're arms and chest branded with the Mark of Shame, if one survives their exile, they come back as a hero.
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The Pelican Nation
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Postby The Pelican Nation » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:23 am

Louisiana has no sick desire to prove how powerful she is as a nation by inflicting torture and pain on others. The worst we will do to you is kill you rapidly with a bullet or a noose.
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Postby Blitzkrenia » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:26 am

We hug them.
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Postby The Marxist Commune » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:29 am

We stick 5 bullets up their dick and put a clamp on it, then hits it with a hammer.
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Postby The Pelican Nation » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:30 am

Blitzkrenia wrote:We hug them.


We do, too! Sometimes, we hug especially nasty criminals, but we hug them 'round the neck instead of the shoulders, and we use a thick rope instead of arms!

...Not the same thing?

I would also like to point out that Kalasparata is now recognized as a Rogue State by the Pelican Republic, and Code Blue Travel Advisory is now in indefinite affect concerning that place.

Nobody is permitted to go there directly, and nobody is permitted to come here from there, save those in need of political asylum.
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Postby Kalasparata » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:32 am

The Marxist Commune wrote:We stick 5 bullets up their dick and put a clamp on it, then hits it with a hammer.

What if it's a female?
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:53 am

The Pelican Nation wrote: I would also like to point out that Kalasparata is now recognized as a Rogue State by the Pelican Republic, and Code Blue Travel Advisory is now in indefinite affect concerning that place.

Nobody is permitted to go there directly, and nobody is permitted to come here from there, save those in need of political asylum.


We have had a similar policy in effect for some time now, not that any harberian citizen would want to go to that third-world hole to begin with, and we really don't want their "people" in our nation. We have similar policies as regards Great Nepal as well.
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Postby Bafuria » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:53 am

We just lock people up in a cell for the rest of their lives
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Postby Pythonic Inquisition » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:00 am

The Most Noble and Unexpected Pythonic Inquisition wishes to condone Kalasparata's methods of punishment. We feel we could learn a lot from your great nation :)
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Polythinia
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Postby Polythinia » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:01 am

Kalasparata wrote:...air, showers are strictly forbidden...

How do you forbid air?

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Postby Pythonic Inquisition » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:06 am

Polythinia wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:...air, showers are strictly forbidden...

How do you forbid air?


If Kalasparata wants to forbid air, he'll bloody well forbid air
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Postby Charlemartyr » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:09 am

Death by torture, eradication of extended family, expungement of records.

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Postby Satirius » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:38 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
The Pelican Nation wrote: I would also like to point out that Kalasparata is now recognized as a Rogue State by the Pelican Republic, and Code Blue Travel Advisory is now in indefinite affect concerning that place.

Nobody is permitted to go there directly, and nobody is permitted to come here from there, save those in need of political asylum.


We have had a similar policy in effect for some time now, not that any harberian citizen would want to go to that thrid-world hole to begin with, and we really don't want their "people" in our nation. We have similar policies as regards Great Nepal as well.

Ditto that and so-called citizens of Yellow Zone and Sharada.
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Postby Kalasparata » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:40 am

Pythonic Inquisition wrote:The Most Noble and Unexpected Pythonic Inquisition wishes to condone Kalasparata's methods of punishment. We feel we could learn a lot from your great nation :)

Thank You, TG me and I'll teach ya!

Pythonic Inquisition wrote:
Polythinia wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:...air, showers are strictly forbidden...

How do you forbid air?


If Kalasparata wants to forbid air, he'll bloody well forbid air

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Postby Mussleburgh » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:50 am

Take the two criminals together. Shoot the largest. Chuck them off a cliff. The dead one will weigh the other down.

Efficiency. Thats how its done.
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