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Postby New Lusitaniagrad » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:39 am

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New Lusitaniagrad wrote:Murder- Public hanging
Rape- Public castration and then hanging
Mass Murder- Public burinig at the stake
Child Molestation- Public Castration and burning at the stake


I like it! Except, the punishment for mass murder should be higher than child molestation, perhaps poking their eyes out, and pouring tabasco in the sockets would be better? :eyebrow:


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Postby Fson » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:40 am

Nobody has been executed in Fson since the revolution which was 20 years ago, before then it was quite common-place the victims where usually political opponents or revolutionaries.


The common method is hanging, execution is still legal in Fson but it is a very long drawn out process which requires approval from the guilds, the elected representatives, the nobles and the prince. In cases of indecision there is a plebiscite.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:41 am

Capital punishment was abolished in Charlotte Ryberg since 2025. Therefore the last execution, that is, of the former dictator Liana Catalonia had to take place in another country.

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Postby Birnadia » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:56 am

We use firing squad and lethal injection.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:58 am

The Pelican Nation wrote:I do not know where you get this "deciding in advance" idea from either, honestly. If a person really does recover, good for him! Fantastic! He is likely going to have to prove his worth to the community again, of course. We can't help that. He violated the trust of his neighbors.

From your own words. You said that you execute recidivists instead of making a second or third try to rehabilitate them. You're deciding in advance that rehabilitation won't work on the second or third try. And again, that is more of an indictment of your rehabilitation program than anything else.

We are not a very large nation. Throwing good money in to follow bad is not a good idea.

And killing your own people is not a good way to develop a mature nation. If your government behaves the same as the criminals, how do you tell the difference?

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Postby Satirius » Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:10 am

Felons are made to rehabilitate themselves by undergoing Penal Infantry service, which is half paving roads and half rushing bunkers, while recieving therapy from an Army psychologist. If the felony qualifies as Anticitizenship(basically any act of treason), they are either shipped off to the Anticitizen Exclusion Zone with nothing but an M1 carbine, the clothes on their back, and a few sandwiches and a water bottle. Those deemed unfit for Exclusion are sent to the gladiatorial arenas as inexpensive competitors that still pull in incredible revenue.

The very few who are calculated to not compensate for their support costs with their activities are executed by means of tossing them off a cliff, as it requires no special equipment and still kills them, and the rope used to bind them for the fall can be salvaged later.
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Postby Southern Yugoslavia » Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:42 am

We tend to execute severe lawbreakers by either firing squad or lethal injection, depending on the crime.
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Postby JJ Place » Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:45 am

Penndale wrote:What is the form of Capital Punishment in your nation? In Penndale we use gas chambers but not much people are executed here in our country


Capital Punishment, during all normal circumstances in JJ Place (which we're always in), has been banned for the past 120 years in JJ Place. Capital Punishment is banned for a multitude of reasons, ranging from saving on costs to the doubt of killing someone, to the expliotation of the Judicial System being used for the purpose of Revenge instead of Justice.
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Postby San Guillermo » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:27 am

Capital punishment was constitutionally outlawed after the 1985 revolutions in our country, in which the firing squad was the preferred method of execution during the dictatorship.

Now we opt for "reclusíon perpetua," which is basically life imprisonment.
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Postby TurtleShroom » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:29 am

TurtleShroom has a long and infamous history of exercising Capital Punishment. From the nations' founding to today, there have been hundreds of thousands upon hundreds and hundreds of thousands of executions.


A few of the crimes that create Capital Punishment are as follows:
  • Murder of any kind - but it must be proven that it was not self-defense or an accident in a court of law. Sometimes, the more weenie judges give life-in-prison-no-parole (LIPNP).
  • Rape. It's either death or castration and tracking. Rapists don't have the right to have a wingding, so to speak. In slang, they call it the "Bob Barker Treatment". Then, it's seven years of prison, and they receive a tracking bracelet for life. (Most choose death, it's less shameful.)
  • High treason - but only if the treason immediately put the nation in danger or resulted in loss of life, or if they aided Nicksylvania or terrorists. Anything else is normal treason, which is LIPNP or banishment from the country, plus humiliation.
  • Drug kingpins
  • Large-scale drug dealers (street peddlers and people merely possessing drugs, whatever the amount, are just jailed)
  • Terrorism or conspiring to perform terrorism - if conspiring, the terrorist may plea bargain to save his butt after torture. If committing (and assuming he didn't kill himself), it is death after we try and extract information.
  • Human trafficking/Sex slavery - being caught dealing in such a horrid, disgusting, and unholy act is nothing but a death penalty. No other punishment can be use on someone who kidnaps children for that. Those who sell sex slaves are put to death, and so are those who buy them or are caught owning and "using" them. The slaves themselves are exempt from any punishment under their tenure as slaves.
  • Pedophiles (any species)
  • Child molesters (any species)
  • Aircraft hijacking
  • Bestiality/Zoophilia
  • Those who break out of prison




As for the killing, these methods are legal in the country:
  • Hanging.
  • Lethal injection
  • Electric chair - in the swamps of southern TurtleShroom, where lethal injection is impractical, this method is used in its place, along with hanging. This is mandated on human traffickers, pedos, and molesters, but up to the choice of the judge in any other case.
  • Burning at the stake - this practice was never abolished (and, in theory, could still be used), but there have been no burnings for one hundred ten years. The last burning was that of Herkoff Plowsky, a human serial rapist and murderer who mainly targeted members of church clergy, of all species.
  • Stoning - this practice, like burning, is still legal, but stoning has never been used as capital punishment in the entire history of TurtleShroom.

[*]Guilliotine - decapitation has been employed since 2012 AD.




Lastly, public execution was banned upon the country's founding. All of these methods are done privately.




Person012345 wrote:Though I stress this is only cases where there is absolutely no doubt of the guilt of the suspect...


Ditto. A proper trial and conviction must be administered before a death sentence can be delivered. TurtleShroom courts don't have juries (excluding grand juries), only judges. It's less expensive.
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Postby The Pelican Nation » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:39 am

Fatatatutti wrote:From your own words. You said that you execute recidivists instead of making a second or third try to rehabilitate them. You're deciding in advance that rehabilitation won't work on the second or third try. And again, that is more of an indictment of your rehabilitation program than anything else.


Yes, we have decided that, because we have learned from years of experience that it usually doesn't work. It'd be wonderful if it did, but we have no time, and no wherewithal to just go repeatedly washing every ne'er-do-well through the system in the slim hope that he may be changed this time when he wasn't the last fifteen times. We have changed the system, we have altered conditions, but still, the numbers keep showing us that if they don't rehabilitate on round one, it's probably because they can't.

Bottom line? Don't commit a crime here. The prisons are not daycare centers. We call them "penitentiaries" for a reason.

Fatatatutti wrote:And killing your own people is not a good way to develop a mature nation. If your government behaves the same as the criminals, how do you tell the difference?


Because we do not behave the same as them. We kill in national defense, against foreign and domestic threats. They kill others because they believe they can, or they have some right.

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Postby TurtleShroom » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:43 am

The Pelican Nation wrote:
Fatatatutti wrote:On the contrary, you don't know whether rehabilitation would work on the second or third try. All you're doing is underlining the failures of your own rehabilitation program. And it's hardly surprising that it doesn't work, since you're deciding before the fact that it won't work.


We are not a very large nation. Throwing good money in to follow bad is not a good idea. If you are a serious criminal here, you only get one main chance. Waste that, and...

It is somewhat dependent on the judge, of course. They have considerable leeway in sentencing.

I do not know where you get this "deciding in advance" idea from either, honestly. If a person really does recover, good for him! Fantastic! He is likely going to have to prove his worth to the community again, of course. We can't help that. He violated the trust of his neighbors.

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"Rehabilitation" in TurtleShroom is punishment. Jails are first and foremost places of punishment. Lawbreakers are there to be punished for their evils agaisnt their fellow man, not to recieve handouts and pats on the back at the taxpayer's expense. Criminals who break the law go to jail, and jail is supposed to be a scary place.

TS jails are fully privitized and follow this basic schedule every day. Prisons are not under the scope of the government. They are merely regulated to keep prisoners from getting killed (unless executed) and from killing, ect.

Of course, this varies on the warden and the jail (TS has a lot of jails to accomedate for Prohibition), but that's the basic routine. The Republic focuses heavilly on convict labor and hard work to teach criminals what happens to them when they do wrong. If and when they are released, unless they're rapists, the government doesn't track them. If they screw up again, the punishment goes up. For example, the minimum punishment for drinking alcohol is two weeks. Drink again, it's three weeks, and so on.
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Postby New Immortallia » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:47 am

Criminals in New Immortallia, or what we call “misled Comrades”, undergo the most rigorous harsh punishment, often lasting for weeks on end. If the crimes committed are severe then the punishment can even last years at a time!

Our punishment program is as follows;

Misled Comrades convicted of crimes against their Comrades undergo repeated and intense PSYCHIATRIC COUNCELLING sessions with trained PROFESSIONALS. Then are condemned to a harsh regime of caring for the elderly, sweeping streets, clearing gutters, welcoming library visitors, flower arrangement, helping out with community events and basket weaving. All in all what we give the gruesome title of … *ominous drumroll* … COMMUNITY SERVICE!

Crimes range from, Being rude to someone unnecessarily and without due cause which earns the perpetrator one supervised apology session where they confront their victim, and themselves, and ask deeper questions about why they did what they did, to physical harm of a fellow human being; which usually affords a ranged amount of COMMUNITY SERVICE depending on the severity of their action and it’s consequences.

Very occasionally if someone repeatedly offends and the national council of the police service deems it appropriate, a “Rehabilitation Order” is sent to the Comrade Premier for his signature.
This order, the greatest punishment awarded in New Immortallia, sends a Comrade to a specially constructed centre in the forests where they will engage in hiking, fishing, meditation, getting to know themselves, group therapy, intense one to one counselling, and if necessary; a “living with ourselves and each other” prescribed reading list. Very often Comrades are rehabilitated in a matter of weeks and are taken back to their home district by chauffer, where they are still required to carry out their community service, but do so with renewed vigour and eagerness!

The Comrade Premier Koba of New Immortallia rarely approves of this harsh punishment however, always deferring to the national supreme soviet for their opinions on the misled Comrade in question. If they do approve the Rehabilitation Order and Koba finds no other choice but to sign it, he ordinarily weeps for days on end and it is quite impossible for his fellows from the supreme soviet to console him at all, no matter how many times they declare through his door that it is illegal for the Premier to be upset or push flowers and scrawled apologetic notes with thoughtful messages and colourful pictures in his letterbox.

It is also notable that the crime of “Treason” doesn’t exist in New Immortallia, calling for an end to the Government is what you find in the average secondary school social studies textbook. And Comrades who crusade against figures of authority are often rewarded with medals and home made cup cakes!

The only crimes in New Immortallia are crimes against humans and crimes against our environment. Hence treason is a nonsense word!

However, even with this complicated and harsh punishment system in place, capital punishment is still commonplace in New Immortallia, with every citizen suffering at some point what we fearfully call “Death by natural causes!”. The group most often punished this way are eighty to ninety year olds.
However in light of this, recently, the Government has decided that this final punishment is inhumane and is looking at stamping it out for good! A press release from the Premier on the issue:

“Our Government has noticed this suffering across the age spectrum, with each age range suffering some form of brutal randomized capital punishment, though none more so than the elderly! We find distressing that the aged are effected so heavily by this and as a consequence we have teams of researchers and social scientists working right at this moment to attempt to outlaw this heinous crime! Why should every beautiful, unique and special life have to end with this final degrading punishment? It shouldn’t! We are spending billions of USR Credits battling against it this month alone, and we have reports that our medical scientists are close to eliminating something called *looks at notes* …can..cer? Whatever that is. Best left to scientists. But still, Long live the people! Death to Death!”

It is hoped that by the end of the year with new Government programs in place, capital punishment will be completely unheard of except in the most unseen and random of circumstances: I.e. falling pianos.

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Postby The Adrian Empire » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:19 pm

Punishment in the Adrian Empire is based upon a point system, criminals who qualify for lowest level of Capital Punishment, may choose to either take their punishment in the form of execution or fight for their life as a gladiator, for the Imperial Gladiator Fighting League, or another sport representative, 10 victories earns freedom and usually a contract in the safer professional leagues. Despite this choice many choose to take their punishment, as an honour-bound society, law-breakers usually wish to take the honourable path of execution rather then fail trying to win their freedom.

Lowest Level Executions take the form of firing squads usually in groups to lessen any potential infamy from the individuals.

For higher executions, the criminals are subject to an arduous period of torture before the killing. These is reserved for the very worst of society, traitors, serial killers and rapists, wife-killers as well
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Postby Vox Libertatem » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:22 pm

The most severe punishment in Vox Libertatem is hanging by the neck until dead - by means of a nylon rope, using the "long drop" method intended to break the convict's neck (the force is scientifically calculated to ~4500-5000 N).

The most severe mandatory sentencing scheme for a first offender is "death, life sentence, or minimum 30 years imprisonment without possibility of parole" - the standard sentence for first-degree murder, slave trafficking, kidnapping for the intention of bringing people into slavery, and high treason. Child molesters and repeat-offender rapists receive the above penalty, generally excluding the death penalty, but are castrated in addition.

The death penalty is mandatory for repeat offenses of first-degree murder, slave trafficking, or child molestation.

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Postby Korintar » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:24 pm

This is the schedule of penalties used in Korintar:
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nitrogen asphyxiation (murder, serial rape (esp pedophilic acts), high treason)

castration, both surgical and chemical (rape)

caning (manslaughter, rape, aggravated assault, armed robbery, child or spousal abuse)

community service, forced labor (theft, vandalism, fraud, burglary, assault, harrassment, non-support)

fines (robbery, theft, vandalism, fraud, burglary, assault, harrassment, non-support)

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imprisonment, fines, and excommunication, forced labor, and caning are the penalties allotted to the Church for offenders under Church Law.

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caning, nitrogen asphyxiation/firing squad, castration, force labor, fines, dishonorable discharge, and imprisonment are the penalties allotted to the armed forces under Martial Law
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Postby Georgism » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:32 pm

Who knows? Nobody's ever been executed here in Georgism. I'm not 'executing' myself any time soon ;)
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Postby Greater Rhodes » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:02 pm

We find execution barbaric. Greater Rhodes as a whole believes that life imprisonment is much more effective.
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Postby The Pelican Nation » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:10 pm

Greater Rhodes wrote:We find execution barbaric. Greater Rhodes as a whole believes that life imprisonment is much more effective.


More expensive, too, unless you have a fucked up appeals process which lets an inmate spend eleven years on Death Row...which we do not have in Louisiana as it happens. You're dead within a year, two at the maximum.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:27 pm

The Pelican Nation wrote:
Fatatatutti wrote:If your government behaves the same as the criminals, how do you tell the difference?

Because we do not behave the same as them. We kill in national defense, against foreign and domestic threats.

"Rational" killing is the most cold-blooded and the sickest of all.

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Postby The Pelican Nation » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:32 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:
The Pelican Nation wrote:
Fatatatutti wrote:If your government behaves the same as the criminals, how do you tell the difference?

Because we do not behave the same as them. We kill in national defense, against foreign and domestic threats.

"Rational" killing is the most cold-blooded and the sickest of all.


Yes, it is cold-blooded. Sometimes one must be cold to keep a nation and a people secured. You think what you want about that. I don't care. I'm not running my government by foreign standards.

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Postby Fatatatutti » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:40 pm

The Pelican Nation wrote:Yes, it is cold-blooded. Sometimes one must be cold to keep a nation and a people secured. You think what you want about that. I don't care. I'm not running my government by foreign standards.

Nobody's telling you how to run your government. I'm just pointing out that there's no difference between your methods and the criminals'. And I'm suggesting that humanity is more important than security.

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Postby Cawnpore » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:43 pm

No executions here, rather exile and outlawing.

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Postby The Pelican Nation » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:51 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:
The Pelican Nation wrote:Yes, it is cold-blooded. Sometimes one must be cold to keep a nation and a people secured. You think what you want about that. I don't care. I'm not running my government by foreign standards.

Nobody's telling you how to run your government. I'm just pointing out that there's no difference between your methods and the criminals'. And I'm suggesting that humanity is more important than security.


I'm saying you are wrong, regardless how long you may argue. Killing in the name of security, and public freedom is using the same method, but morally speaking, the purpose is vastly different. It works, and we do not intend to change unless we have good cause.

If it were not already obvious, condescending speech from the likes of you is not good cause.

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