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Postby Laritaia » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:02 pm

Sediczja wrote:To give the thread some kind of infantry-related topic - What is the organisation of your nation's "average" rifle squad?


i think i posted this in the last thread, but it answers the question fairly well.

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Postby Transnapastain » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:03 pm

Sediczja wrote:To give the thread some kind of infantry-related topic - What is the organisation of your nation's "average" rifle squad?


IIRC rfle squads in Trans wee fat af at 12 men in 2 IFV's

This is the composition of infantry units in a nation I actually do shit with

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:10 pm

Sediczja wrote:To give the thread some kind of infantry-related topic - What is the organisation of your nation's "average" rifle squad?

-Not!CV90 (Armadillo)
  • Commander
  • Driver
-Fireteam A
  • SL (MANA w/ 60 Round Casket - Underbarrel 40mm)
  • Automatic Rifleman with disposable launcher (MANA w/ 60 Round Casket - 84mm Unguided)
  • Grenadier (MANA w/ 60 Round Casket - 25mm Smart Munitions System)
  • Automatic Rifleman (MANA w/ 60 Round Casket - Underbarrel 40mm)
-Fireteam B
  • TL (MANA w/ 60 Round Casket - Underbarrel 40mm)
  • Automatic Rifleman with disposable launcher (MANA w/ 60 Round Casket - 84mm Unguided)
  • Automatic Rifleman (MANA w/ 60 Round Casket - Underbarrel 40mm)
  • Automatic Rifleman (MANA w/ 60 Round Casket - Underbarrel 40mm)
-Weapons Team
  • TL (MANA w/ 60 Round Casket - Underbarrel 40mm)
  • Machine Gunner (General Porpoise Machine Gun)
  • Assistant Gunner (MANA w/ 60 Round Casket - Underbarrel 40mm)
  • Marksman (MANA ER)


The summation of my 5 years of infantry learnins has lead me to believe the is the evolutionary dead end of the rifle squad.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:14 pm

Fun fact. I just found out the Armadillo only carries 8 men.

Even though they ripped off the turret.

This is why you don't copy the Danes, kids.
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Postby Allanea » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:18 pm

Finally the list is here!
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Postby Sediczja » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:31 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Fun fact. I just found out the Armadillo only carries 8 men.

Even though they ripped off the turret.

This is why you don't copy the Danes, kids.
To me it seems like the weapons team right now is excess fat anyway, but that's just my opinion. It would possibly be better to drop one of the fireteams and slot the weapons team in there.

Or just use a fatter vehicle, I dunno.
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i think i posted this in the last thread, but it answers the question fairly well.[/url]
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Postby Grand Teutonic Empire » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:32 pm

Infantry squad

Squad Leader - Sergeant - Rifle

Fireteam Alpha:
Fireteam leader - Corporal - Rifle w/ grenade launcher
Rifleman - Lance Corporal - Rifle
Gunner - Lance Corporal - Squad Automatic Weapon
A-Gunner - Private First Class (FUCKIN' BOOT) Rifle w/ extra rounds for Gunner

Fireteam Bravo:
Same as Alpha

Fireteam Charlie:
Same as Alpha

Fireteam Delta:
Fireteam Leader - Coproral - Rifle w/ grenade launcher
Assaultman - Lance Corporal - Rifle and not!SMAW thing
A-Assaultman - PFC (also a fuckin' boot) - Rifle and extra munitions for not!SMAW thing

Aside from weapon and ammo, all squad members hump around a bunch of shit that varies from useful to waste of fucking space.

may or may not have more detail in the future. depends on my general level of wanting to do more.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:35 pm

Sediczja wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Fun fact. I just found out the Armadillo only carries 8 men.

Even though they ripped off the turret.

This is why you don't copy the Danes, kids.
To me it seems like the weapons team right now is excess fat anyway, but that's just my opinion. It would possibly be better to drop one of the fireteams and slot the weapons team in there.

Or just use a fatter vehicle, I dunno.
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Interesting.

You know what?

I don't see any cops.

16 man squads, in 2 vehicles.

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Postby Sediczja » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:46 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:You know what?

I don't see any cops.

16 man squads, in 2 vehicles.

Nirvashi pride, continent-wide.
I feel like that could actually work, somehow.

Speaking of which, I've got some org written up that entails a half-platoon made up of two ten-dude fireteams riding in a fat IFV that I imagine to be somewhere between the M44 and LVTP-5. Two of which, plus a ~140mm assault gun and a command section spread throughout the IFV's, forms a platoon.

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Postby Alimeria- » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:13 pm

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Postby Immoren » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:18 pm

"Orbital assault detachment is most common military unit in Marine Corps of the Immorean Start Concordiat. Usually smaller warships carry one, while larger can carry several of them with them. It consists of single senior subaltern officer, 4 senior non-commissioned officers and 12 junior non-commissioned officers, 17 smart AIs and enough semi-disposable drones to give effective sensor and signals coverage to whole detachment. And bunch of knife missiles, vicious small blade like drones with agrav units, for soldier on top of that.
Detachment is divided into three sections, with serjeant and two four man fire teams, two soldiers and their suit AIs consisting making one fire team, with captain commander and faajunkari leading the bunch. Job of AI is to help process comms and sensory data, handle electronic warfare, manage camouflage of the suit, and other things to leave flesh bag to worry about fighting.

Section serjeants and commander captain are equipment with tactical nuclear projector with beyond line of sight capability, targeting with either telemetry from sensory network of the detachment or larger force, or missile’s own sensor. Faajunkkari and junior non-commissioned officers are equipped with dual capability weapons system that also can fire beyond-line of sight munitions, but chemical HEAT-MP munitions instead of atomic munitions or in close quarters in can use kinetic energy component, to give close protection to the heavy weapons of the detachment.

Suit gives marines protection from enemy fire and elements. It also helps with load gearing and enhances strength and endurance. There are also housings for comms and EW suites and AI-block. Depending on gravity it also has enhanced manouveribility unit, which allows wearer to hop longer than he could. Suit also has active camoflage that tries to blend with surrounding environment.

Individual marine’s frontage can be up to 2 (6 for those with atomic munitions) kilometers optimum conditions, and for entire detachment that can be 30 kilometers. But weather, terrain and ECM environment can greatly reduce those. At maximum range opponent is engaged with nuclear arms, if closing in is need JNCOs join in the fight with their own HEAT-MP projectors, and if extreme closes quarter JNCOs engage with KE projectors and knife missiles starts to harass anyone whom might’ve survived.

Marine corps doesn’t directly recruit or commission from civilian populace, but they recruit among junior non-commissioned officers and senior subalterns of the planetary defense forces, to ensure the quality of the candidates."
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:19 pm

Here have a Mechanized Infantry Company, a Reconnaissance Company, and a Tank Company.

Coming in the future maybe Marine Company, maybe Regimental HQ's, maybe Light Infantry Company, maybe Air Assault Company. And with that in the new thread I go to sleep.
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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:37 pm

why not zoidberg tungsten saboted shotgun slugs?
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Postby Nachmere » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:43 pm

Off the top of my tired head:
Armored Inf Rifle Squad:

Vehicle
-Vehicle Commander (Carbine)
-Gunner (Carbine)
-Driver (Carbine)

-Squad Leader (Carbine)
-Radio Operator (Carbine w/UBGL)
-Designated Marksman (DMR)
-2 XGunner (7.62X51 LMG)
-3 X Rifleman (Rifle + LAW)
- Grenadier ( Grenade Launcher+Pistol)

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Postby Sevvania » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:54 pm

Sediczja wrote:What is the organisation of your nation's "average" rifle squad?

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A typical Sevvanian rifleman. He is your friend!

He is an essential component of the Sevvanian rifle squad, a unit comprised of ten fighting men that can be broken into two teams as necessary.

Squad Composition
•Squad Leader (Usually a Sergeant): Often armed with a Sevvanian Standard M1937 submachine gun, but may carry an Outlander carbine
•Team Leader (Usually a Corporal): May be armed with an Outlander service rifle, carbine, or M1937 submachine gun
•Automatic Rifleman (x2): Armed with Outlander Automatic Rifles (OAR) or, to a lesser extent, Mark IV machine carbines
•Marksman (x2): Armed with a scoped rifle, either a semi-automatic Outlander or a bolt-action Mosin, often supplemented by a Morgan machine pistol
•Rifleman (x4): Armed with an Outlander service rifle

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Postby EsToVnIa » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:15 pm

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The "heavy" motorized infantry squad (Jeverst Panjarymotøvélkanynfanterysten Grúppen) is one of two conventional infantry squad compositions of the Estovnian Army. Used primarily with the arbitrary designated "Guards" formations, the standout feature is its eight men strength, broken down into a section of three and section of four with the squad leader floating between the two. Despite the name, the "heavy" squad is arguably lightly armed and missing what many Western Pardesi nations consider crucial to an infantry squad/section: a general purpose machine gun and some sort of long-range marksman. To rectify this, every member of the squad is trained to use the 6.5x55mm MG 34 mounted on the BMP-3 and typically the platoon command section has four-to-five 6.5x5mm PSL marksman rifles available for use. Additionally, the "heavy" rifle squad has a RPG-7 team and four M72 LAW disposable launchers, with an additional two kept in the BMP-3.

In total, the heavy rifle squad consists of:
-2 rifleman armed with AK-74M rifles,
-2 fireteam leaders (typically an Øverfúry and a Furer), with the squad leader armed with a AK-74M and GP-30 UBGL and the squad second in command armed with an AK-74M ,
-A light machinegun team armed with a RPKS-74 and an AK-74M,
-RPG'er team with one RPG-7 (along with 7 rockets) armed with an AK-74M (assistant) and AK-105 (grenadier)

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The "regular" motorized infantry squad (Panjarymotøvélkanynfanterysten Grúppen) is the second conventional infantry squad composition used within the Estovnian Army. It is highlighted by a 7-man asymmetric composition of rigidly defined fire and maneuver sections. The squad is broken down into a 3-man maneuver section, lead by the squad second-in-command, and a 4-man fire section lead by the squad leader. The maneuver section is supplemented with two M72 LAW disposable launchers and one GP-30 under-barrel grenade launcher. Lacking any concrete anti-armor weaponry in the squad itself, two MBT-LAWs are kept in the squad's BMP-3 and would typically be carried by the two rifleman who would normally carry the M72 LAW launchers.

In total, the regular rifle squad consists of:
-2 rifleman armed with AK-74M rifles,
-1 grenadier armed with an AK-74M rifle equipped with a GP-30 under-barrel grenade launcher,
-1 automatic rifleman armed with a 6.5x55mm MG 34 light machine gun,
-1 designated marksman equipped with a 6.5x55mm PSL rifle,
-2 fireteam leaders armed with AK-74M rifles
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Postby Nachmere » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:26 pm

I should flamscale my squads but I am lazy. Flamscale infantry is the one true art.

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Postby Grand Teutonic Empire » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:38 pm

Laritaia wrote:-snipero-

How do your guys carry all that gear and where do they carry it all at? That's a lot of gear to take with you on a patrol, nevermind what you take in your assault pack.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:42 pm

Sevvania wrote:
Sediczja wrote:What is the organisation of your nation's "average" rifle squad?

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A typical Sevvanian rifleman. He is your friend!

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Typical Nirvashi Infantrywoman. This woman is not your friend.

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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:42 pm

Grand Teutonic Empire wrote:
Laritaia wrote:-snipero-

How do your guys carry all that gear and where do they carry it all at? That's a lot of gear to take with you on a patrol, nevermind what you take in your assault pack.

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Postby Allanea » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:52 pm

My rifle squad is as follows:

x3 BMP-3 Crew.
x1 Commander.
x1 Machinegunner (PKP variant)
x1 RPG-7 gunner
x1 RPG assistant (FN FGR)
x3 Riflemen (FN FGR). One of these might also be a designated marksman.... basically just with a bigger scope.
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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:56 pm

I'm thinking of changing my rifle squads up again.

I'm also thinking light mortars belong to the platoon commander. All else, including the Holy Carl G belong at company.

IFVs negate the need for a weapons squad right?
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Postby Nachmere » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:21 am

Grand Teutonic Empire wrote:
Laritaia wrote:-snipero-

How do your guys carry all that gear and where do they carry it all at? That's a lot of gear to take with you on a patrol, nevermind what you take in your assault pack.



Not really...

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Postby Nachmere » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:22 am

also I am 100% flamscaling infantry today, and fuck other things.

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Postby Grand Teutonic Empire » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:37 am

Nachmere wrote:
Grand Teutonic Empire wrote:How do your guys carry all that gear and where do they carry it all at? That's a lot of gear to take with you on a patrol, nevermind what you take in your assault pack.



Not really...

Just looking at the section leader, he has:

-A rifle
-Eleven magazines
-Eight grenades
-A knife
-A hatchet
-A pistol
-4 pistol magazine (assuming one is in the pistol itself like the rifle)
-A headset
-SVGs
-A radio (Why isn't there just a radioman?)

He is carrying all of this, which is (somehow) attached to his flak jacket, which probably has some sort of SAPI plates in them, AND what appears to be a rather large pack on his back.



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man what a
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