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No step on snek

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Oh fug :D DDDDD
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10mm best mm
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Ford should stop posting swords
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Puz is eternal leader of IDT
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Kyiv is not actually a tank but instead is a man trapped inside a tanks body
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Other assorted memes
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Postby Purpelia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:19 am

Allanea wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Is that a bolt action converted to fire full auto? I like.


It's a bolt-action with some ungodly amount of bolt lugs.

I was thrown off by the strange safety that had 3 positions implying it was some sort of fire selector. The large amount of bolt lugs did not even register for me as it was reasonably standard for the time of early bolt actions. Not that it's terribly nonstandard these days either.
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Postby Puzikas » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:35 am

Yuo see
When make many locking lugs
Rifle will never break
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Postby Crookfur » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:40 am

Purpelia wrote:
Allanea wrote:
It's a bolt-action with some ungodly amount of bolt lugs.

I was thrown off by the strange safety that had 3 positions implying it was some sort of fire selector. The large amount of bolt lugs did not even register for me as it was reasonably standard for the time of early bolt actions. Not that it's terribly nonstandard these days either.

It's a mondragin 1894.

Multiple rows of locking lugs was and still are not unknown but they tend to be rare because they are expensive and complicated to make.

The 3 position safety had safe, fire and rapid fire where the the gun would fire as soon as it was in battery without a separate trigger press. Kind of like a machine gun with an auto sear but operated manually.
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Postby Rhodesialund » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:52 am

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Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:I can has MG3 chambered in 8mm Mauser pls?

9.3x64 Brenneke or you're doing it wrong


Glad to see I'm not alone in this. My nation has the Brenneke MG3 as a GPMG/MMG. 8)
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Postby Spreewerke » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:02 am

Gallia- wrote:


secret m16 prototype revealed

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These little fellers come with that high-speed o-ring for the extractor, too, if you get 'em from BCM. I guess that was one of the things they shoved into the Mk18/CQBR upgrades. I probably should have thrown the o-ring into my own Mk18/CQBR-inspired rifle, but whatevs. It gon b k
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:16 am

Allanea wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Is that a bolt action converted to fire full auto? I like.


It's a bolt-action with some ungodly amount of bolt lugs.


An original mondragon straight pull, huh.
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Postby Minroz » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:25 am

Crookfur wrote:Where are you getting that from?

The AWM (artic warfare magnum) is the larger calibre development of the artic warfare both by accuracy international.

Technically the latest version is the AX338 but you would know this if you had read the wikipedia article on the artic warfare series.

Sorry, my last post was mistypos. As to your question, I got it from wikipedia. :x

Getting back on track regarding sniper rifles, I do understand that the most important thing is the skill of the marksman than the fancy-specs of the rifle he holds. Correct me if I'm wrong, that's what I thought when I read the last posts (never minding the bullet specs).

On other news, I plan to use the SVD as standard DMR for my regular troops.

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Postby Balkenreich » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:12 pm

When you have a Mauser T-Gewehr and you miss use it for no scopes.
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Postby EsToVnIa » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:34 pm

you have to deploy the bipod first
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:47 pm

Judging from Bajur's work it seems to be a huge exploding cannon. Which I'm sure is alternately fun and hilarious, but eh.
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Postby Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:10 pm

With the XM25, when firing through windows with smart ammunition, isn't there the concern that the time it takes to draw a bead on your average window size would make you a target? Whereas soldiers can just spray the window with normal rifle fire, it seems like the XM25 is designed to be aimed carefully.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:15 pm

The riflemen would suppress the target in the window, and the XM-25 user would kill them. Unless it was beyond effective rifle range.
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Postby Puzikas » Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:46 pm

If its beyond your riflemans effective range its probably beyond the enemies as well.

If its a sniper or an MG nest or something theres plenty of other tactics to employ.
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Postby Spreewerke » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:10 pm

Puzikas wrote:If its beyond your riflemans effective range its probably beyond the enemies as well.

If its a sniper or an MG nest or something theres plenty of other tactics to employ.



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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:17 pm

If you have a window to shoot through do the fancy airburst sights and stuff even matter? All you need is to lob that grenade in and it should do. Right?
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Balkenreich
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Postby Balkenreich » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:19 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:The riflemen would suppress the target in the window, and the XM-25 user would kill them. Unless it was beyond effective rifle range.


Puz, what do SAW's do?
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:39 pm

Purpelia wrote:If you have a window to shoot through do the fancy airburst sights and stuff even matter? All you need is to lob that grenade in and it should do. Right?

The fancy sights let you lob the grenade through from a couple hundred feet, instead of having to crawl to throwing range. Grumpy puz will probably complain about "back in my day, you had to crawl to the window, under fire, both ways!c
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Postby Purpelia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:40 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Purpelia wrote:If you have a window to shoot through do the fancy airburst sights and stuff even matter? All you need is to lob that grenade in and it should do. Right?

The fancy sights let you lob the grenade through from a couple hundred feet, instead of having to crawl to throwing range. Grumpy puz will probably complain about "back in my day, you had to crawl to the window, under fire, both ways!c

I am talking about the smart fusing airburst stuff, not the stuff that only lets you better aim at distance.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Spirit of Hope » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:43 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:The fancy sights let you lob the grenade through from a couple hundred feet, instead of having to crawl to throwing range. Grumpy puz will probably complain about "back in my day, you had to crawl to the window, under fire, both ways!c

I am talking about the smart fusing airburst stuff, not the stuff that only lets you better aim at distance.

Because what if there is no wall behind the window? Such as what may happen when buildings are hit by artillery or other explosives. Or the room is potentially big enough that the grenade may travel to far away from the window.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:47 pm

CDTE isn't really meant for windows, in the sense that's not the scenario they were meant for. A 40mm grenade that strikes the back wall behind a window will probably kill everyone behind it, striking the exterior wall the window is on will also probably kill everyone behind it.

CDTE is meant for firing over walls where a direct hit may not incapacitate units behind it, potential scenarios where the rules of engagement are stringent, or for shooting at trenches or foxholes, where a direct hit is extraordinarily difficult to achieve.
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Postby Gallia- » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:49 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Purpelia wrote:I am talking about the smart fusing airburst stuff, not the stuff that only lets you better aim at distance.

Because what if there is no wall behind the window? Such as what may happen when buildings are hit by artillery or other explosives. Or the room is potentially big enough that the grenade may travel to far away from the window.


you lase before the window

the grenade is timed to explode slightly beyond the obstacle

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:02 pm

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Postby Mancunian Northumbria » Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:33 am

So with the British Army bring out the new Virtus body armour I've seen loads of squaddies mocking the sh*t out of it because it can in their words "barley stop .22LR and defiantly not NATO 5.56". So how mediocre are the protection capabilities of the Virtus gear at a glance the back of the neck looks very exposed.

On the topic of body armour I've seen a few stories of people getting shot in the area below the arm in the torso and dying, how much of a serious issue is this?

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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:30 am

Why don't boots use velcro straps or buckles. Laces are fuckin dumb and slow.
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