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Reeeeeeeeeee
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Oh fug :D DDDDD
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10mm best mm
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Ford should stop posting swords
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Puz is eternal leader of IDT
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Kyiv is not actually a tank but instead is a man trapped inside a tanks body
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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:40 pm

Don't worry. I already set the bar at tactical panties. The slippers are more than fine.
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Postby Balkenreich » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:33 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Don't worry. I already set the bar at tactical panties. The slippers are more than fine.


So is that where they put everything?
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Postby Kazarogkai » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:42 pm

After doing a little bit of fiddling when it comes to my nations LMG I have decided maybe it would be best for me to go against my original course of action. I had originally thought about having the LMG used by my forces in 1940 be what was in effect a Browning wz. 1928 with a quick change barrel and a 72-round drum magazine. I received some decent critique on this idea noting the fact that said weapon's magazine would probably not be reliable, and that the assistants only real role would be as ammo carrier and for helping change the barrel.

As such I have decided to repent and switch over to a box magazine fed LMG. Even despite this I still have no love for top fed magazines, aesthetics mostly, as such I compromised and switched over to a side fed magazine. The LMG that I planned on basing mine was for all intents and purposes a ruggidized Johnson LMG. My only reservations for this being I have heard complaints that the gun was built with very strict tolerances and wasn't the most reliable piece in adverse conditions. That is something I worry about considering the fact that the Kazarogkai mainland does have an equatorial tropical environment which can be considered pretty adverse in terms of conditions. Just wanted to have a little info before I went through with this decision.
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Postby The Kievan People » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:44 pm

Tactical floodpants or bust.
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Postby Rhodesialund » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:46 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:After doing a little bit of fiddling when it comes to my nations LMG I have decided maybe it would be best for me to go against my original course of action. I had originally thought about having the LMG used by my forces in 1940 be what was in effect a Browning wz. 1928 with a quick change barrel and a 72-round drum magazine. I received some decent critique on this idea noting the fact that said weapon's magazine would probably not be reliable, and that the assistants only real role would be as ammo carrier and for helping change the barrel.

As such I have decided to repent and switch over to a box magazine fed LMG. Even despite this I still have no love for top fed magazines, aesthetics mostly, as such I compromised and switched over to a side fed magazine. The LMG that I planned on basing mine was for all intents and purposes a ruggidized Johnson LMG. My only reservations for this being I have heard complaints that the gun was built with very strict tolerances and wasn't the most reliable piece in adverse conditions. That is something I worry about considering the fact that the Kazarogkai mainland does have an equatorial tropical environment which can be considered pretty adverse in terms of conditions. Just wanted to have a little info before I went through with this decision.


Lo and Behold, for on the seventh day the Lord has delivered Saint John Moses Browning upon us. Through the Lord's guidance, Saint John Moses Browning has devised one rifle known none other than the Browning Automatic Rifle.

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Postby Minroz » Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:46 am

Onto topic of rifles, which sniper rifle in modern-day you considered to be the best out of all?

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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:09 am

They're all the same
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Postby Taziristan » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:12 am

Fordorsia wrote:They're all the same

I find that extremely Sniperophobic
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:17 am

MInroz wrote:Onto topic of rifles, which sniper rifle in modern-day you considered to be the best out of all?

The sniper is much better than the rifle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills#Confirmed_kills_1.2C250.C2.A0m_.281.2C367.C2.A0yd.29_or_greater
There is no pattern in weapon, cartridge, nationality or even time period.

However, this is only sniper kills where the sniper's identity was also published; and where the kill and its range could be independently corroborated.
As close as there comes to being a "pattern" is a widespread use of .50 large-rifle cartridges (mostly .50 BMG) and .338 Lapua Magnum cartridges.
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Postby Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:03 am

Rhodesialund wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:After doing a little bit of fiddling when it comes to my nations LMG I have decided maybe it would be best for me to go against my original course of action. I had originally thought about having the LMG used by my forces in 1940 be what was in effect a Browning wz. 1928 with a quick change barrel and a 72-round drum magazine. I received some decent critique on this idea noting the fact that said weapon's magazine would probably not be reliable, and that the assistants only real role would be as ammo carrier and for helping change the barrel.

As such I have decided to repent and switch over to a box magazine fed LMG. Even despite this I still have no love for top fed magazines, aesthetics mostly, as such I compromised and switched over to a side fed magazine. The LMG that I planned on basing mine was for all intents and purposes a ruggidized Johnson LMG. My only reservations for this being I have heard complaints that the gun was built with very strict tolerances and wasn't the most reliable piece in adverse conditions. That is something I worry about considering the fact that the Kazarogkai mainland does have an equatorial tropical environment which can be considered pretty adverse in terms of conditions. Just wanted to have a little info before I went through with this decision.


Lo and Behold, for on the seventh day the Lord has delivered Saint John Moses Browning upon us. Through the Lord's guidance, Saint John Moses Browning has devised one rifle known none other than the Browning Automatic Rifle.

*cue Gregorian Chants*

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bitch please
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Postby Taziristan » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:04 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
MInroz wrote:Onto topic of rifles, which sniper rifle in modern-day you considered to be the best out of all?

The sniper is much better than the rifle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills#Confirmed_kills_1.2C250.C2.A0m_.281.2C367.C2.A0yd.29_or_greater
There is no pattern in weapon, cartridge, nationality or even time period.

However, this is only sniper kills where the sniper's identity was also published; and where the kill and its range could be independently corroborated.
As close as there comes to being a "pattern" is a widespread use of .50 large-rifle cartridges (mostly .50 BMG) and .338 Lapua Magnum cartridges.

While not on the list due to the range being less than the minimum distance used to compile it, USMC Gunnery Sergeant's second-longest confirmed kill was 1200 yards using a "standard" USMC sniper rifle chambered in .30-06 Springfield. At the time of Hathcock's service, snipers had essentially been eliminated from the USMC and its sniper rifles were a hodgepodge mix of commercial Remington 700 and Winchester Model 70 rifles chambered for multiple cartridges.

Now that is impressive.
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Postby Crookfur » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:05 am

MInroz wrote:Onto topic of rifles, which sniper rifle in modern-day you considered to be the best out of all?

AWM for all of teh winz
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Postby Rhodesialund » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:21 am

Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:
Rhodesialund wrote:
Lo and Behold, for on the seventh day the Lord has delivered Saint John Moses Browning upon us. Through the Lord's guidance, Saint John Moses Browning has devised one rifle known none other than the Browning Automatic Rifle.

*cue Gregorian Chants*

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bitch please
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:40 am

Taziristan wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:The sniper is much better than the rifle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills#Confirmed_kills_1.2C250.C2.A0m_.281.2C367.C2.A0yd.29_or_greater
There is no pattern in weapon, cartridge, nationality or even time period.

However, this is only sniper kills where the sniper's identity was also published; and where the kill and its range could be independently corroborated.
As close as there comes to being a "pattern" is a widespread use of .50 large-rifle cartridges (mostly .50 BMG) and .338 Lapua Magnum cartridges.

While not on the list due to the range being less than the minimum distance used to compile it, USMC Gunnery Sergeant's second-longest confirmed kill was 1200 yards using a "standard" USMC sniper rifle chambered in .30-06 Springfield. At the time of Hathcock's service, snipers had essentially been eliminated from the USMC and its sniper rifles were a hodgepodge mix of commercial Remington 700 and Winchester Model 70 rifles chambered for multiple cartridges.

Now that is impressive.

The .338 cartridge's recommended maximum range is about 1400 metres, and is being used for kills at close to double that. I find that more impressive.

No disrespect to the work of early ("""early""") snipers like Hancock and the conditions and pressures in which they had to work.
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Postby Puzikas » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:22 am

He used a Winchester Model 70 which I find to be the best civilian bolt action rifle of the last, oh, 90 years or so.

Shooting beyond 1km with a .30-06 or .308 is a zealous proposal at best for the majority of shooters, even the majority of long range shooters. That should really emphasize that it has far more to do with the shooters ability than just the rifle flat out.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:53 am

MInroz wrote:Onto topic of rifles, which sniper rifle in modern-day you considered to be the best out of all?

Paradox rifle because shotgun hax OP.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:06 am

Rhodesialund wrote:
Lo and Behold, for on the seventh day the Lord has delivered Saint John Moses Browning upon us. Through the Lord's guidance, Saint John Moses Browning has devised one rifle known none other than the Browning Automatic Rifle.

*cue Gregorian Chants*

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The polish variant was superior...
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:12 am

Call me crazy but I personally just love the DP. The thing has all the mobility of a light weapon with that cute pan. I'd love to hear what our resident gun expert has to say on it.
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Postby Allanea » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:42 am

You need to watch some Soviet war films, Purpelia. Or, better yet, White Sun of the Desert.
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Postby EsToVnIa » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:15 pm

Purpelia wrote:Call me crazy but I personally just love the DP. The thing has all the mobility of a light weapon with that cute pan. I'd love to hear what our resident gun expert has to say on it.


Xe talks about it like every 10 pages?
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Postby Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:19 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:The polish variant was superior...

Kg m/37 > FN Model D > Colt Model 1925 (R 75A) > Wz. 1928 > Colt Monitor (R 80) > M1918 > M1918A2
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:21 pm

Estovnia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Call me crazy but I personally just love the DP. The thing has all the mobility of a light weapon with that cute pan. I'd love to hear what our resident gun expert has to say on it.


Xe talks about it like every 10 pages?

A few tidbits here and there yes. But a man can dream about the day we'll get a 2000 words essay on it or something similar.
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Postby Sevvania » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:23 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Estovnia wrote:
Xe talks about it like every 10 pages?

A few tidbits here and there yes. But a man can dream about the day we'll get a 2000 words essay on it or something similar.

A 2000 word essay on how Puz feels about DP.
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