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Overall satisfaction with this index?

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I am satisfied with this index
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I am not satisfied with this index
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Asparagus is definitely better than this index
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None of these poll options describe my feelings.
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Total votes : 1774

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Bluelight-R006
Senator
 
Posts: 4317
Founded: Mar 31, 2017
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bluelight-R006 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:20 pm

I suggest the adding of a ‘Military advancement’ of ‘Military size’ index. It would also represent a civilisation based on how strong they are.

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Excidium Planetis
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8067
Founded: May 01, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Excidium Planetis » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:13 am

Bluelight-R006 wrote:I suggest the adding of a ‘Military advancement’ of ‘Military size’ index. It would also represent a civilisation based on how strong they are.


That's too subjective. How would you measure military strength?
Current Ambassador: Adelia Meritt
Ex-Ambassador: Cornelia Schultz, author of GA#355 and GA#368.
#MakeLegislationFunnyAgain
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:You didn't know about Excidium? The greatest space nomads in the NS multiverse with a healthy dose (read: over 9000 percent) of realism?
Saveyou Island wrote:"Warmest welcomes to the Assembly, ambassador. You'll soon learn to hate everyone here."
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Digital Network Defence is pretty meh
Tier 9 nation, according to my index.Made of nomadic fleets.


News: AI wins Dawn Fleet election for High Counselor.

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The Transhuman Union
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1172
Founded: Aug 21, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby The Transhuman Union » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:17 am

A technology of a nation affects the nation's army.
'Military size' index would be useless
A big, 1.8 M blob filled with joy and enthusiasm, with a small dash of ingenuity combined with a youthful, healthy dose of idealism.

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Siberai
Diplomat
 
Posts: 851
Founded: Nov 04, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Siberai » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:39 pm

Nation: Siberai
Tier: 11
Level: 11
Type: 11
Special Notes about your civilization: We are a civilization that has existed many times before, and many times before that, through multiple universes...
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? This is fine as it is.
NS Name is not IC Name!
NS Stats are NOT used!
IC Name: Notovasian Tsardom
Siberai does NOT represent my views in the slightest.
I am a depressed gaybean

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Katzenstaat
Diplomat
 
Posts: 801
Founded: Aug 16, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Katzenstaat » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:45 pm

Nation: Katzenstaat
Technology Tier 10
Arcane Tier 0
Influence Tier 10
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MODEDIT: Meow spam removed

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The Connwe
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 25
Founded: Nov 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby The Connwe » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:00 pm

Nation: The Connwe
Tier: 9
Level: 0
Type: 6
Special Notes about your civilization: We have consciously decided to limit the scope of our civilisation. We are extremely conservative in this way

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Sol Nigrum
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 11
Founded: Oct 22, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Sol Nigrum » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:39 pm

Nation: The Eternal Zakuulian Empire of The Black Sun

Tier: 9.8

Level: Depends on status. Most citizens are at 0, while high ranking Lords may reach 9 or 10. The Emperor is easily at 11.

Type: 8

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New Antegria II
Diplomat
 
Posts: 913
Founded: Jan 16, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby New Antegria II » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:01 pm

Nation: Petrovsky
Tier: 9
Level: 0
Type: 6
Special Notes about your civilization: We've colonized all of Mars and the Moon. We have a type of bomb called a 'Stellar Bomb' which is like 2.72471040E+34 megatons (Basically how many megatons the sun will have burned out once it explodes)
Petrovsky News: 11/19/2017 - General Secretary Иван Петров announced that several agreements have been reached with Zitravgrad, including but not limited to, an Alliance | Petrovsky has applied to become a member of the International Space Federation | Petrovsky has re-applied to become a member of the International Exchange Student Program; 11/20/2017 - Petrovsky becomes a member of the International Space Federation | Petrovsky re-applies to become a member of the International Anti Terrorist Alliance


95% of people would cry if they saw JUSTIN BIEBER on a skyskraper about to jump. If you're the 5% that would be doing a happy dance, copy and paste this as your signature.

Full Member of the International Space Federation

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Defutavia
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 17
Founded: Nov 11, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Defutavia » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:58 am

Nation: Defutavia
Tier: 5
Level: 0
Type: 5
Special Notes about your civilization: We have a rapidly advancing space program
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? N/A
Leader: Legate Orwiss (Bartholomew Orwiss)
A Power 15 civilization, according to this index.

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Pilarcraft
Senator
 
Posts: 3826
Founded: Dec 19, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Pilarcraft » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:19 am

UPDATED
Nation: Confederal Alliance of Pilarcraft
Tier: 8
Level: 9
Type: 6
Special Notes about your civilization: N/A
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? N/A
The Confederal Alliance of Pilarcraft ✺ That world will cease to be
Led by The Triumvirate.
OOC | Military | History |Language | Overview | Parties | Q&A | Factbooks
Proud Civic Persian Nationalist
B.P.D.: Dossier on parallel home-worlds released, will be updated regularly to include more encountered in the Convergence.

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Ardrentt
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5765
Founded: Jan 21, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Ardrentt » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:19 pm

Nation: The Serenity of Ardrentt
Tier: 5
Level: 0
Type: 4
Special Notes about your civilization: N/a or U/C
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? N/a

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United Nations Under One Flag
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 14
Founded: Mar 13, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby United Nations Under One Flag » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:06 am

Nation: United Nations Under One Flag
Tier: 7
Level: 0
Type: 4
Special Notes about your civilization: N/A
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index?: The groupings of tech tiers seems a little odd and hard to figure out just what tier your on.

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Excidium Planetis
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8067
Founded: May 01, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:38 am

United Nations Under One Flag wrote:Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index?: The groupings of tech tiers seems a little odd and hard to figure out just what tier your on.


I will need more specific information. What particular trouble did you come across? What groupings seem odd?
Current Ambassador: Adelia Meritt
Ex-Ambassador: Cornelia Schultz, author of GA#355 and GA#368.
#MakeLegislationFunnyAgain
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:You didn't know about Excidium? The greatest space nomads in the NS multiverse with a healthy dose (read: over 9000 percent) of realism?
Saveyou Island wrote:"Warmest welcomes to the Assembly, ambassador. You'll soon learn to hate everyone here."
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Digital Network Defence is pretty meh
Tier 9 nation, according to my index.Made of nomadic fleets.


News: AI wins Dawn Fleet election for High Counselor.

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Avangard
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 18
Founded: Nov 20, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Avangard » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:53 pm

Nation: Avangard
Tier: 6
Level: 0
Type: 4
Special Notes about your civilization: N/A
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? No. It's pretty good.
[THIS NATION DOES NOT REPRESENT MY VIEWS.]
[THE ONLY NS STAT I USE IS POLICIES.]

disregard anything i said last year i was kind of a twat haha

NOVOSTI MIRA: UK plans first manned mission to Mars
MESTNYYE NOVOSTI: Komissar Shia Lebrok undergoing neck surgery
POGODA: Warmer-than-usual temperatures today. Storm brewing off the Black Sea

A 1.5 civilization according to this scale.

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Kazakstotzka
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 49
Founded: Oct 16, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Kazakstotzka » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:43 pm

Nation: Kazakstotzka
Tier: 8
Level: 1
Type: 6
Special Notes about your civilization: AI development and genetic engineering are in their infant stages, would otherwise be a tier 6
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? Perhaps create a tier between basic space travel and interplanet colonization.

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Vykrotia
Envoy
 
Posts: 295
Founded: Feb 20, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Vykrotia » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:53 pm

Nation: Vykrotia
Tier: 6
Level: 0
Type: 4
Special Notes about your civilization: Earth-based nation
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? nope.
NATION INFO
FOUNDED: DEC. 16, 2021
PRESIDENT: HENDRIK STARKE
GOVERNMENT: FEDERAL REPUBLIC
POPULATION: 49,708,493

VYKROTIAN FEDERATION
- FORTITUDO - POTESTAS - ORDINEM -
(vai-krow-sha)

A heavily-militarized European nation forged from countless conflict and a clarion call for true independence.
A federal republic under a hidden police state, the Vykrotian Federation aims to maintain its strength through power while enforcing order.

Current IC year: 2031 | NS stats are NOT used

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Excidium Planetis
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8067
Founded: May 01, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:04 pm

Kazakstotzka wrote:Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? Perhaps create a tier between basic space travel and interplanet colonization.


What would you suggest placing between "Travel on a solar system scale is likely possible, but very slow" (Tier 6) and "Civilization may now travel across their home star system if they have one, with slow but practical speeds" (Tier 7)?
Current Ambassador: Adelia Meritt
Ex-Ambassador: Cornelia Schultz, author of GA#355 and GA#368.
#MakeLegislationFunnyAgain
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:You didn't know about Excidium? The greatest space nomads in the NS multiverse with a healthy dose (read: over 9000 percent) of realism?
Saveyou Island wrote:"Warmest welcomes to the Assembly, ambassador. You'll soon learn to hate everyone here."
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Digital Network Defence is pretty meh
Tier 9 nation, according to my index.Made of nomadic fleets.


News: AI wins Dawn Fleet election for High Counselor.

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Kazakstotzka
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 49
Founded: Oct 16, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Kazakstotzka » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:17 pm

The tier system seems fine as is, but personally I see developing genetic research and artificial intelligence at a basic, or even moderate degree (something we have today irl) comes earlier than moving at light speeds (something we don't have today, and may not even be physically possible)
Probably a focus on technological improvements that don't focus on space travel for a tier or two.
Like basic flight in one tier, then a tier or two that doesn't focus on flight. Then space travel, followed by a tier or two that doesn't focus on space travel. Then basic space colonization would be a really advanced tier.

The reason for this is how the majority of nationstates are based as early as WW2 and as late as postmodern tech. So most nations are stuck picking tier 6. Intergalactic and Fantasy nationstates exist, but they are few and far between.
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Excidium Planetis
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8067
Founded: May 01, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Excidium Planetis » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:21 pm

Kazakstotzka wrote:The tier system seems fine as is, but personally I see developing genetic research and artificial intelligence at a basic, or even moderate degree (something we have today irl) comes earlier than moving at light speeds (something we don't have today, and may not even be physically possible)
Probably a focus on technological improvements that don't focus on space travel for a tier or two.

Techs mentioned are examples, not requirements. A nation can develop genetic engineering and AI in Tier 5, if that was the tech tier that really fit best. Likewise, a Tier 10 nation may not have developed AI or genetic engineering. The tech tier descriptions are themselves based on the stereotypical model of a given tier, the form that nations tend to take on NS around that level. In my experience, the high level MT nations do not tend to have AI and genetic engineering of humans/majority species. These are typically found at the PMT or FT levels, which is why I placed them in those Tiers.

The reason for this is how the majority of nationstates are based as early as WW2 and as late as postmodern tech. So most nations are stuck picking tier 6. Intergalactic and Fantasy nationstates exist, but they are few and far between.

Most MT nations are stuck picking 6. But they can choose 5. And sure, two tiers is not a lot, but most FT nations are stuck picking 8 or 9, so you can't really say that it advantages them either, and most PT nations are going to be picking Tier 2 or 3, and the poor PMT nations get pretty much only 7. Tier 0 and 12 aren't really meant to be chosen except by extreme outliers, so you would expect each NS standard category to get maybe 2 possible choices.

Also of note is that this scale was designed by an FT nation for use by nations expected to interact with it. A broad scale spreading out from low FT is to be expected given the intended IC purpose of the scale.
Last edited by Excidium Planetis on Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:22 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Current Ambassador: Adelia Meritt
Ex-Ambassador: Cornelia Schultz, author of GA#355 and GA#368.
#MakeLegislationFunnyAgain
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:You didn't know about Excidium? The greatest space nomads in the NS multiverse with a healthy dose (read: over 9000 percent) of realism?
Saveyou Island wrote:"Warmest welcomes to the Assembly, ambassador. You'll soon learn to hate everyone here."
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Digital Network Defence is pretty meh
Tier 9 nation, according to my index.Made of nomadic fleets.


News: AI wins Dawn Fleet election for High Counselor.

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Kazakstotzka
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 49
Founded: Oct 16, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Kazakstotzka » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:33 am

Sure, sounds reasonable. Just suggesting any possible improvements, but it seems tight as it is.

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Persagonia
Envoy
 
Posts: 211
Founded: Oct 31, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Persagonia » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:38 am

Nation: Federal Republic of Persagonia
Tier: Between Tier 5 and 6, our technology ranges from 1990s-2010s
Level: Level 0, what is this magic nonsense that you speak of?
Type: Type 5, we're influential enough to bring the world into its knees when we embargo them from oil
Special Notes about your civilization: We're Persians, the Light of the Aryans + we own a large oil reserve
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? Nope
Federal Republic of Persagonia"Jewel of the Middle East"

After the 1979 Revolution that saw the fall of the Shah, Persagonia has re-emerged itself from the ashes of Iran. Persagonia has proven herself to be the dominant secular and democratic power in the Middle East, both politically and economically.

Ettela'at News: Persagonian and Saudi relations deteriotes even further after accusations of Persagonian support for republicanist opposition parties. Both nations are now on the verge of a Middle Eastern Cold War, said Persagonian diplomat.

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The Alaskan Frontier
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 4
Founded: Nov 24, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby The Alaskan Frontier » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:04 pm

Nation: The Alaskan Frontier
Tier: 6
Level: 0
Type: 4
Special Notes about your civilization: N/A
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? No.
A Tier 21 civilization, according to this index.

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Letheny
Envoy
 
Posts: 243
Founded: Sep 17, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Letheny » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:00 pm

Nation: The Kingdom of Letheny
Tier: 6
Level: 0
Type: 5
Special Notes about your civilization: Colonial empire
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? no
The great Kingdom of Letheny, since 1022.
AU Version: Lethen Empire
His Majesty, King Ran is only a figurehead (Or is he...)
Letheny is a MT nation
Colonial Empire
Doesn't use NS stats
News:

Lethen state visit to Karamiko goes well - Royal Navy to expand, citing unknown tensions

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Slavencia
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: Nov 25, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Slavencia » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:58 am

Nation: Slavencia
Tier: 8
Level: 0
Type: 7
Special Notes about your civilization: Never made contact with another civilization except for a few encounters with high level beings.
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index?

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Arkeyana
Minister
 
Posts: 2410
Founded: Mar 21, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Arkeyana » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:27 pm

Nation: Arkeyana
Tier: 9
Level: 4
Type: 10
Special Notes about your civilization: The federation is a peaceful organization...unless angry... than whoever made us pissed will suffer from critical existence failure
Any Improvement Suggestions for the Index? Weapon scale?

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