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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:54 pm

you should make it articulated and have bigger guns than just two boring turrets on it
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:56 pm

Estovnia wrote:you should make it articulated and have bigger guns than just two boring turrets on it


It's the first WIP. There will be plenty of guns.
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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:57 pm

not if you keep its current size rip
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:02 pm

Immoren wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I think I've come to the realisation recently that the modern MBT isn't an evolution of the medium tank, but the heavy tank. Just that modern automotive systems now allow today's "heavy tanks" to have their mobility.

Am I particularly wrong, given the typical assertion is that the mobile medium tank just became heavier?


Or is it synthesis of both classes?
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:06 pm

Estovnia wrote:not if you keep its current size rip


The front turret isn't one turret, it's two side by side. And if I can make it look good, it will have sponson guns and maybe a hull gun.

I think it looks good at least
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Postby Laritaia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:18 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Estovnia wrote:not if you keep its current size rip


The front turret isn't one turret, it's two side by side. And if I can make it look good, it will have sponson guns and maybe a hull gun.

I think it looks good at least


you should give it an assault ramp on the front.

and sponsons.

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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:20 pm

Laritaia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
The front turret isn't one turret, it's two side by side. And if I can make it look good, it will have sponson guns and maybe a hull gun.

I think it looks good at least


you should give it an assault ramp on the front.

and sponsons.


I actually was thinking about a troop compartment

Probably won't do it though
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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:26 pm

troop compartment would be cool

should lengthen it so it can carry like a company or something
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:26 pm

Setting aside the obvious problems of practicality, what does a supertank even do that a tank company (or mechanized infantry company, or artillery battery) can't do better?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:32 pm

The Soodean Imperium wrote:Setting aside the obvious problems of practicality, what does a supertank even do that a tank company (or mechanized infantry company, or artillery battery) can't do better?

Surely nothing post like 1970.
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Postby The Soodean Imperium » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:45 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Soodean Imperium wrote:Setting aside the obvious problems of practicality, what does a supertank even do that a tank company (or mechanized infantry company, or artillery battery) can't do better?

Surely nothing post like 1970.

What would it even do pre-1970?
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:52 pm

Progress

I'll probably have to ditch the top AA guns because of how limited the traverse for the main turrets would be.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:54 pm

The Soodean Imperium wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Surely nothing post like 1970.

What would it even do pre-1970?

I'm being charitable. About 1970 is when long-range gunnery, highly capable well-protected MBTs, air-delivered PGMs and decent ATGMs definitely started coming into play.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:21 pm

The Soodean Imperium wrote:Setting aside the obvious problems of practicality, what does a supertank even do that a tank company (or mechanized infantry company, or artillery battery) can't do better?


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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:22 pm

The Soodean Imperium wrote:Setting aside the obvious problems of practicality, what does a supertank even do that a tank company (or mechanized infantry company, or artillery battery) can't do better?


Nothing.

They look cool and, in alt history 1920s/30s RPs, make for interesting plot devices i suppose
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:55 pm

More progress

So far the armament consists of three turrets, two at the front one at the back. Each turret has one 150mm gun, two .50 M2s (one coax, one pintle) and two .30 M1919 periscope guns on each rear corner of the turret for the loaders. There are also two 40mm AA guns in oscillating turrets at the front of the hull, with the driver behind and between them.

I was going to give it a fixed 150mm howitzer underneath the driver but that seems a bit redundant given the size of the main guns, and a larger howitzer would cause space issues for its loader.
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Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

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Postby Purpelia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:00 pm

Fordorsia wrote:More progress

So far the armament consists of three turrets, two at the front one at the back. Each turret has one 150mm gun, two .50 M2s (one coax, one pintle) and two .30 M1919 periscope guns on each rear corner of the turret for the loaders. There are also two 40mm AA guns in oscillating turrets at the front of the hull, with the driver behind and between them.

I was going to give it a fixed 150mm howitzer underneath the driver but that seems a bit redundant given the size of the main guns, and a larger howitzer would cause space issues for its loader.

Give it a rear firing Sturmtiger rocket mortar or something. That way the vehicle can fart enemies out of existence.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:00 pm

Surely it'd be an idea to make the rear turret larger and to take some kind of large-bore howitzer instead of HV gun, sort of FCM-F1ish?
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:06 pm

uuuuuuh

If I have that turret I'm wondering if it would be better to have it at the front instead
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:09 pm

needs less copy paste, more actual creative stuff
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:11 pm

Estovnia wrote:needs less copy paste, more actual creative stuff


I drew the parts. That's creative enough.
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:13 pm

I was suggesting make it forward facing. Recess the front two turrets and have the rear turret fire over them.

A la FCM-F1.
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:19 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:I was suggesting make it forward facing. Recess the front two turrets and have the rear turret fire over them.

A la FCM-F1.


Even if I lowered the front turrets, I would still have to raise the rear to make it shoot over them, which would make it even more stupidhigh.
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
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Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:22 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I was suggesting make it forward facing. Recess the front two turrets and have the rear turret fire over them.

A la FCM-F1.


Even if I lowered the front turrets, I would still have to raise the rear to make it shoot over them, which would make it even more stupidhigh.

That's what makes it endearing.
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