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Theodosiya
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Postby Theodosiya » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:29 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Paragania wrote:brum brum

(Image)


Needs a machine gun mounted in the back window

And another one in front seat, left.
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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:33 am

Theodosiya wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Needs a machine gun mounted in the back window

And another one in front seat, left.


And two mounted over the engine for the driver.
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Dostanuot Loj
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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:21 pm

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Gallia- wrote:i dont have the book on my desk but R. Simpkin talks about a sort of "rule of thumb" for full bore AP rounds' maximum penetration into armour in Antitank

i will find it later if kyiv doesnt snipe me first


Ur clear.

I don't have my own copy of Antitank.


Mine, along with a lot of my books, have been in a box for over a year.

I'll build some bookshelves after I move next month and maybe have them out by MGV number 12.
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:28 pm

Gallia- wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:
Ur clear.

I don't have my own copy of Antitank.


R. Simpkin says a "yardstick" of "detonation after one caliber of penetration" for Soviet APHE presumably BR-412 or something

183mm king of the undulating terrains

Was that British 183mm gun actually intended for AT use? It always struck me as an artillery piece.
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Novorden
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Postby Novorden » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:38 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
R. Simpkin says a "yardstick" of "detonation after one caliber of penetration" for Soviet APHE presumably BR-412 or something

183mm king of the undulating terrains

Was that British 183mm gun actually intended for AT use? It always struck me as an artillery piece.

The British army was considering after ww2 using the 183mm as their primary anti tank weapon, as it was deemed that nothing could withstand a 183mm HESH round.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:41 pm

Are there any good articles on the 215 183? Wiki doesn't cite anything in the list of 215 variants.
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Postby Allanea » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:43 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Are there any good articles on the 215 183? Wiki doesn't cite anything in the list of 215 variants.


There's one in Russian. Possibly you could either:

1. Put it into Google translate?

2. Give me $20 to translate it.
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Novorden
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Postby Novorden » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:44 pm

Also, even after the 183mm idea was scrapped, some of the early plans for the chieftain had it with a semi-autoloading 155 mm gun in a cleft turret.

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Postby Fordorsia » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:52 pm

Novorden wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Was that British 183mm gun actually intended for AT use? It always struck me as an artillery piece.

The British army was considering after ww2 using the 183mm as their primary anti tank weapon, as it was deemed that nothing could withstand a 183mm HESH round.


Well they weren't wrong, right?
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:53 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Novorden wrote:The British army was considering after ww2 using the 183mm as their primary anti tank weapon, as it was deemed that nothing could withstand a 183mm HESH round.


Well they weren't wrong, right?

Refer to my Rule #1.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:28 pm

Novorden wrote:Also, even after the 183mm idea was scrapped, some of the early plans for the chieftain had it with a semi-autoloading 155 mm gun in a cleft turret.

So what actually was it that killed the 183? I guess nothing truly "killed" it, since it didn't progress much beyond the mockup stage?
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Postby Allanea » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:33 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Novorden wrote:Also, even after the 183mm idea was scrapped, some of the early plans for the chieftain had it with a semi-autoloading 155 mm gun in a cleft turret.

So what actually was it that killed the 183? I guess nothing truly "killed" it, since it didn't progress much beyond the mockup stage?


There were several firing prototypes. I'm looking at photos of them right now.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:49 pm

Of the gun there were, sorry, yes, I meant the combat vehicles to carry them (my limited understanding was that 4005 was a test bed for the 215 183, which never progressed beyond mockup). Was 4005 a firing prototype?
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Paragania
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Novorden
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Postby Novorden » Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:57 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Novorden wrote:Also, even after the 183mm idea was scrapped, some of the early plans for the chieftain had it with a semi-autoloading 155 mm gun in a cleft turret.

So what actually was it that killed the 183? I guess nothing truly "killed" it, since it didn't progress much beyond the mockup stage?

From what I have read, the size of the gun and the low velocity of the HESH round.

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Tule
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Postby Tule » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:13 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:Yes, but you can still shoot down a pigeon.

Signal flags are where it's at.

Clearly what is needed is some sort of bulletproof pigeon. Or maybe one that flies so fast that it can't be hit. The answer is clear. Steroids.


You must not be afraid to dream a little bigger darling.

Stealth pigeons are the solution.
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Allanea
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Postby Allanea » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:14 pm

Pigeons are already stealthy.

I'm quite sure a pigeon's RADAR signature is tiny.
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Postby Purpelia » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:17 pm

Tule wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Clearly what is needed is some sort of bulletproof pigeon. Or maybe one that flies so fast that it can't be hit. The answer is clear. Steroids.


You must not be afraid to dream a little bigger darling.

Stealth pigeons are the solution.

Steroid use in pigeons is a real thing.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9055965

People apparently use it to cheat in pigeon racing.
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Allanea
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Postby Allanea » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:29 pm

Why is your pigeon flying over enemy lines?

I doubt very much that it is possible for a person who is not a trained skeet/pigeon shooter to shoot down a pigeon, especially with a rifle.
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The Kievan People
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Postby The Kievan People » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:36 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:So what actually was it that killed the 183? I guess nothing truly "killed" it, since it didn't progress much beyond the mockup stage?


I don't know the exact reason, but it dates from the era when NATO was working itself into a frenzy over the mostly imaginary capabilities of Soviet heavy tanks.

Sanity sort of returned in the 60s.
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Postby Allanea » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:37 pm

I have read that it was killed off by the advent of ATGMs.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:37 pm

Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Husseinarti » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:44 pm

Image

tonk
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Postby Fordorsia » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:45 pm

Husseinarti wrote:(Image)

tonk


Looks pretty tall
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Husseinarti » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:50 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Husseinarti wrote:(Image)

tonk


Looks pretty tall


Its 2.3 meters tall.
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