Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO FUN] Mark IX

[Allanea]

Also you are wrong. GBC-180 has a payload of 5,000 kilograms, not pounds.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_GBC_180

D-30 weighs 3200 kilograms.

It should be noted that the truck that actually tows the D-30 in Russian service has a lift capacity of 7-9 tons.

[Allanea]

It's actually worse than an assault gun, an assault gun supports infantry while they're actually fighting.

[The Kievan People]

There's a major problem to the Ratte specifically (as opposed to "A generic supertanks"):

The side-armor on the Ratte was not immune to the fire of contemporary tanks and cannon. Deploy a battalion of ISU-122s per enemy Ratte, and you're golden.

Oh, they could fight on (I do not share the mockery of the Ratte that's pervasive on this thread - I have my own Ratte ripoff), but it would require them to be escorted by smaller tanks, to maneuver constantly, and so on - much more complex than "ha! Superweapon!"

Considering there were at least two significantly differently mockups of the Ratte produced, I don't think anything this specific can be said about the Ratte's capabilities.

[Rusur Be Mandoade]

Also you are wrong. GBC-180 has a payload of 5,000 kilograms, not pounds.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_GBC_180

D-30 weighs 3200 kilograms.

It should be noted that the truck that actually tows the D-30 in Russian service has a lift capacity of 7-9 tons.

Woops, meant kilograms instead, thanks for correcting that. And it's the D-20 he was asking about, but thanks for pointing out that as well. When I usually do nation RP things, I normally work with a couple other people, I'm not usually the one for getting down to the specifics of equipment. (Though that's part of the reason I got on Nation States, so I can do more of that stuff on my own.) Anyways, what are the ground vehicles of your nation?

[Allanea]

Allanea is chiefly known for using...

1. BMP-3 Dragoon and BMP-3M.
2. T-95
3. Coalition-SV.
4. MBT-180 Kotesh [heavy battle tank]
5. IFV-143 Gvira [HIFV with some parts commonality with Kotesh, but somewhat lighter and smaller]
6. T-3500 [SHBT which we have about a dozen of]
7. The WUAP IFV [a wheeled IFV that uses the same turret as BMP-3]

Other vehicles are also used. Ours is a full-size NS army as befitting a nation of 27 billion.

[The Kievan People]

If it would have been good, explain why no-one has ever seriously considered a battle tank over 100t, let alone something the size of Ratte and Landkreuzer since?

God himself could not change the Ratte's tracks.

[Rusur Be Mandoade]

There's a major problem to the Ratte specifically (as opposed to "A generic supertanks"):

The side-armor on the Ratte was not immune to the fire of contemporary tanks and cannon. Deploy a battalion of ISU-122s per enemy Ratte, and you're golden.

Oh, they could fight on (I do not share the mockery of the Ratte that's pervasive on this thread - I have my own Ratte ripoff), but it would require them to be escorted by smaller tanks, to maneuver constantly, and so on - much more complex than "ha! Superweapon!"

Well, with the second paragraph is most likely right, but that would mean repurposing a WHOLE tank battalion that would also be needed elsewhere, and then you also have to take into the equation that their would be escorts (as mentioned in the third paragraph) and also that the single Ratte would be notified in advance that a whole battalion was on it's way, in which the Luftwaffe would deploy aerial units to attack the battalion as well. But I agree, it wouldn't have been a "superweapon."

[Rusur Be Mandoade]

Allanea is chiefly known for using...

1. BMP-3 Dragoon and BMP-3M.
2. T-95
3. Coalition-SV.
4. MBT-180 Kotesh [heavy battle tank]
5. IFV-143 Gvira [HIFV with some parts commonality with Kotesh, but somewhat lighter and smaller]
6. T-3500 [SHBT which we have about a dozen of]
7. The WUAP IFV [a wheeled IFV that uses the same turret as BMP-3]

Other vehicles are also used. Ours is a full-size NS army as befitting a nation of 27 billion.

That's actually rather nice, I know some you listed without research, others I'll have to look up when I have the chance.

[New Vihenia]

im curious if anyone can dig more about Russian 152mm tank gun.. like LP-83 and 2A83. Like say.. their working pressures and various dimensions (chamber, etc)

[Imperializt Russia]

Allanea is chiefly known for using...

1. BMP-3 Dragoon and BMP-3M.
2. T-95
3. Coalition-SV.
4. MBT-180 Kotesh [heavy battle tank]
5. IFV-143 Gvira [HIFV with some parts commonality with Kotesh, but somewhat lighter and smaller]
6. T-3500 [SHBT which we have about a dozen of]
7. The WUAP IFV [a wheeled IFV that uses the same turret as BMP-3]

Other vehicles are also used. Ours is a full-size NS army as befitting a nation of 27 billion.

That's actually rather nice, I know some you listed without research, others I'll have to look up when I have the chance.

I'm 60% sure that the bottom four vehicles are of Allanea's own design.

[Imperializt Russia]

im curious if anyone can dig more about Russian 152mm tank gun.. like LP-83 and 2A83. Like say.. their working pressures and various dimensions (chamber, etc)

Haven't we accepted previously there aren't any reliable public domain estimates and certainly no hard data that can be trusted?

[Prosorusiya]

Also you are wrong. GBC-180 has a payload of 5,000 kilograms, not pounds.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_GBC_180

D-30 weighs 3200 kilograms.

It should be noted that the truck that actually tows the D-30 in Russian service has a lift capacity of 7-9 tons.

Woops, meant kilograms instead, thanks for correcting that. And it's the D-20 he was asking about, but thanks for pointing out that as well. When I usually do nation RP things, I normally work with a couple other people, I'm not usually the one for getting down to the specifics of equipment. (Though that's part of the reason I got on Nation States, so I can do more of that stuff on my own.) Anyways, what are the ground vehicles of your nation?

Well, that's disappointing. Should I have my artillery tractors wheeled or tracked? Most of my infantry is wheeled, using BPM-97 APCs, but I do have a brigade of tanks the artillery could work with.

[Allanea]

There's a major problem to the Ratte specifically (as opposed to "A generic supertanks"):

The side-armor on the Ratte was not immune to the fire of contemporary tanks and cannon. Deploy a battalion of ISU-122s per enemy Ratte, and you're golden.

Oh, they could fight on (I do not share the mockery of the Ratte that's pervasive on this thread - I have my own Ratte ripoff), but it would require them to be escorted by smaller tanks, to maneuver constantly, and so on - much more complex than "ha! Superweapon!"

Well, with the second paragraph is most likely right, but that would mean repurposing a WHOLE tank battalion that would also be needed elsewhere, and then you also have to take into the equation that their would be escorts (as mentioned in the third paragraph) and also that the single Ratte would be notified in advance that a whole battalion was on it's way, in which the Luftwaffe would deploy aerial units to attack the battalion as well. But I agree, it wouldn't have been a "superweapon."

Yes but what you're describing involves actual THOUGHT! and PREPARATION! on all sides.

In my experience RPers in NS either:

1. Expect tRatte-alikes to be a superweapon.

Or:

2. Go "ha-ha, I will just drop bombs on it"!

[Korva]

Thoughts on mounting a 60 or 80mm gun mortar on an IFV?

I am considering making an IFV for my puppet that has a 23mm autocannon, 7.62mm coax, and an independently elevating gun-mortar

[Fordorsia]

If it would have been good, explain why no-one has ever seriously considered a battle tank over 100t, let alone something the size of Ratte and Landkreuzer since?

God himself could not change the Ratte's tracks.

I've never even thought about the tracks. How would they ever hope to change them?

[EsToVnIa]

Thoughts on mounting a 60 or 80mm gun mortar on an IFV?

I am considering making an IFV for my puppet that has a 23mm autocannon, 7.62mm coax, and an independently elevating gun-mortar

I think a 60mm mortar would be fine

[The Akasha Colony]

God himself could not change the Ratte's tracks.

I've never even thought about the tracks. How would they ever hope to change them?

With superior German engineering best in world.

[Imperializt Russia]

God himself could not change the Ratte's tracks.

I've never even thought about the tracks. How would they ever hope to change them?

By log-rolling a submarine tender ashore.

[Immoren]

I've never even thought about the tracks. How would they ever hope to change them?

With superior German engineering best in world.

Clearly Akasha confirmed for Rudolf von Stroheim

[Fordorsia]

Ford can into landship

[Taihei Tengoku]

what use does a landship have for ground clearance

[EsToVnIa]

it's not even a cool looking landship

[Fordorsia]

what use does a landship have for ground clearance

So there are some survivors to tell stories

it's not even a cool looking landship

What is your idea of a cool landship?

[EsToVnIa]

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[Fordorsia]

Turning is for losers