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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:36 pm

There's a reason for that.
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Not hanging twice the length of the vehicle over the length of the vehicle is probably that reason.
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The Akasha Colony
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:39 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:There's a reason for that.
(Image)
Not hanging twice the length of the vehicle over the length of the vehicle is probably that reason.


The biggest problem is that Ford's vehicle won't be able to traverse much more than a very gentle incline without rapidly burying its gun in the ground. Gun balance and total gun weight problems are also likely.
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Postby Gallia- » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:44 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I foresee catastrophic gun balance problems to the point of the entire vehicle being unstable.


but muh wide tracks

Imperializt Russia wrote:Asking out of curiosity, what sort of attack would result in this level of catastrophic damage?
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This is a destroyed Jagdtiger, which has sustained damage to blow off its entire heavily-armoured superstructure leaving only the front face, and also apparently dislodged the gun from its mount.


poor thing


>bloodthirsty animal
>poor thing

no one should cry when you put down a maneater rly

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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:52 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:There's a reason for that.
(Image)
Not hanging twice the length of the vehicle over the length of the vehicle is probably that reason.


Well my hull is like twice the size of that little thing and most of the gun's weight is over the hull. That should count for something.

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Imperializt Russia wrote:There's a reason for that.
(Image)
Not hanging twice the length of the vehicle over the length of the vehicle is probably that reason.


The biggest problem is that Ford's vehicle won't be able to traverse much more than a very gentle incline without rapidly burying its gun in the ground. Gun balance and total gun weight problems are also likely.


Inclines shouldn't be much of a problem with elevation
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Postby EsToVnIa » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:00 pm

i mean you still can't really climb up anything
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:08 pm

Estovnia wrote:i mean you still can't really climb up anything


3m high 30 degree slope
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Postby EsToVnIa » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:13 pm

bc it's going to end right there

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Postby The Akasha Colony » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:14 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Estovnia wrote:i mean you still can't really climb up anything


3m high 30 degree slope


And if your tank rocks forward ever so slightly, as one might expect when traversing potentially rough ground...
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:16 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:


And if your tank rocks forward ever so slightly, as one might expect when traversing potentially rough ground...


What I'm saying is that is the max it can do. How often does a tank need to go over sloped as large as that?
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Postby Padnak » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:41 pm

So all I need to defeat the Ford army is a bunch of large dirt piles

neat
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:43 pm

Padnak wrote:So all I need to defeat the Ford army is a bunch of large dirt piles

neat

Make sure to put them in a circle and put some roofing over your head, maybe a few strong planks of wood in case they call in a sword bomb on your position

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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:47 pm

Since it's a popular meme around here apparently, guess what caused this tank to be destroyed:

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:50 pm

I only asked because I was aware of simply how heavy the Jagdtiger superstructure was, and was impressed that an attack could cause the entire thing to fly off the tank. And also that I didn't know what that attack might have been.
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:51 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:I only asked because I was aware of simply how heavy the Jagdtiger superstructure was, and was impressed that an attack could cause the entire thing to fly off the tank. And also that I didn't know what that attack might have been.

Don't care, please answer

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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:54 pm

Padnak wrote:So all I need to defeat the Ford army is a bunch of large dirt piles

neat


You can't even afford dirt let alone the shovels required to make piles

Western Pacific Territories wrote:Since it's a popular meme around here apparently, guess what caused this tank to be destroyed:

(Image)


Well you see, the wheels fell off
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:59 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Padnak wrote:So all I need to defeat the Ford army is a bunch of large dirt piles

neat


You can't even afford dirt let alone the shovels required to make piles

Western Pacific Territories wrote:Since it's a popular meme around here apparently, guess what caused this tank to be destroyed:

(Image)


Well you see, the wheels fell off

of course he can't, hes a anarchy which implys he doesnt have money

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Postby Padnak » Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:36 pm

I've got money! It's just spent on my over bloated internal security apparatus and decent wages lol
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Husseinarti wrote:Powered Borscht.

Because cosmonauts should never think that even in the depths of space they are free from the Soviet Union.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:54 pm

Would anyone know how to track down the explosive fill weight of the British 20pdr APCBC round? I'm really struggling to find it, I suspect because it was hardly issued.
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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:39 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Would anyone know how to track down the explosive fill weight of the British 20pdr APCBC round? I'm really struggling to find it, I suspect because it was hardly issued.


I should have that info at home. I'll take a look in a few hours when I get off work.
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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:54 pm

Dostanuot Loj wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Would anyone know how to track down the explosive fill weight of the British 20pdr APCBC round? I'm really struggling to find it, I suspect because it was hardly issued.


I should have that info at home. I'll take a look in a few hours when I get off work.



Sorry for the double post.
The answer for your question is 0.00 grams of high explosive. It didn't have any.
That might explain why you can't find anything online.
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Postby Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:26 pm

The British and their solid shot weirdness. Always having to do it in a dumb way that no one else does.
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Postby The Kievan People » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:28 pm

Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:The British and their solid shot weirdness. Always having to do it in a dumb way that no one else does.


They were clever enough to realize the bursting charge didn't work properly.
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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:54 pm

Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:The British and their solid shot weirdness. Always having to do it in a dumb way that no one else does.

You see, the British came to two conclusions:
1: The bursting charge was ineffective.
2: A non-bursting projectile penetrated more.

So they said "Why would we put useless HE in a shell to make it penetrate less?" and decided not to.
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Postby Orussia » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:01 pm

Dostanuot Loj wrote:
Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:The British and their solid shot weirdness. Always having to do it in a dumb way that no one else does.

You see, the British came to two conclusions:
1: The bursting charge was ineffective.
2: A non-bursting projectile penetrated more.

So they said "Why would we put useless HE in a shell to make it penetrate less?" and decided not to.

Was this the determining factor behind the 2pdr's main/only AT round being solid shot, or was this decision postwar?
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