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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:54 pm
by Fordorsia
Ardavia wrote:preliminary design for a tank with unmanned turret

still need to add suspension arms, a drive wheel, skirts, hatches and all that stuff

any glaring flaws apparent with the turret/hull as they are?


Do unmanned turret need cheeks like that? I would have thought they would shape an unmanned turret according to the layout of the internals, with no extra room
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:27 pm
by Purpelia

It's that old MBT you had ages ago. Can't remember the name but IIRC it had white stripes.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:52 pm
by Ardavia
iteration the second

a bit iffy on the hull shape honestly

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:57 pm
by New Visegrad
Purpelia wrote:

It's that old MBT you had ages ago. Can't remember the name but IIRC it had white stripes.

White stripes is the Valkyrie 12/4, which this isn't.

Ardavia wrote:iteration the second

a bit iffy on the hull shape honestly

Looks ok but I feel like it might need more than just the one sensor thingy. Unless that's an APS and you haven't added sensor thingies yet, in which case carry on.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:03 pm
by Purpelia
New Visegrad wrote:
Purpelia wrote:It's that old MBT you had ages ago. Can't remember the name but IIRC it had white stripes.

White stripes is the Valkyrie 12/4, which this isn't.


No idea than. Reminds me of that tank Sumer had on NSD centuries ago.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:20 pm
by Immoren

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:21 pm
by Fordorsia


The good old days

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:25 pm
by New Visegrad
Purpelia wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:White stripes is the Valkyrie 12/4, which this isn't.


No idea than. Reminds me of that tank Sumer had on NSD centuries ago.

Unfortunately for your fan club membership, I'm not Sumer, and this is the BLV-12 Sera.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:28 pm
by Purpelia
New Visegrad wrote:
Purpelia wrote:No idea than. Reminds me of that tank Sumer had on NSD centuries ago.

Unfortunately for your fan club membership, I'm not Sumer, and this is the BLV-12 Sera.

Newer seen it before.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:31 pm
by Amerfrager
Amerfrager's main battle tank is called the AM-1, it is essentially a rebranded type-99 MBT clone created by private contractor Pritary Arms INC
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:46 pm
by The Kievan People


- Immune to jamming
- Immune to cyber warfare
- LPI/LPD
- High throughput

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:47 pm
by Husseinarti
The Kievan People wrote:


- Immune to jamming
- Immune to cyber warfare
- LPI/LPD
- High throughput


You can eat them also.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:55 pm
by Transvaal Vrystaat
The Kievan People wrote:


- Immune to jamming
- Immune to cyber warfare
- LPI/LPD
- High throughput

Yes, but you can still shoot down a pigeon.

Signal flags are where it's at.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:00 pm
by Purpelia
Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:
- Immune to jamming
- Immune to cyber warfare
- LPI/LPD
- High throughput

Yes, but you can still shoot down a pigeon.

Signal flags are where it's at.

Clearly what is needed is some sort of bulletproof pigeon. Or maybe one that flies so fast that it can't be hit. The answer is clear. Steroids.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:08 pm
by New Visegrad
I really cba to do tracks today
So far I'm already liking the sense of scale much better than the original, plus of course it looks much more like a modern tank and less like a weird WW2/80s hybrid.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:59 pm
by Crookfur
The Kievan People wrote:


- Immune to jamming
- Immune to cyber warfare
- LPI/LPD
- High throughput

Oh it can be jammed using ACM (avian counter measures) systems
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h ... MwgcKAAwAA

Gah bloody phone and Google why do you make it so hard to share image links. Cue one if you showing me an easy way and making me look like a doddering old fool.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:05 pm
by New Visegrad
Crookfur wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:
- Immune to jamming
- Immune to cyber warfare
- LPI/LPD
- High throughput

Oh it can be jammed using ACM (avian counter measures) systems
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h ... MwgcKAAwAA

Gah bloody phone and Google why do you make it so hard to share image links. Cue one if you showing me an easy way and making me look like a doddering old fool.

Press and hold > open image in new tab > copy URL from there.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:06 pm
by Purpelia
New Visegrad wrote:
Crookfur wrote:Oh it can be jammed using ACM (avian counter measures) systems
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h ... MwgcKAAwAA

Gah bloody phone and Google why do you make it so hard to share image links. Cue one if you showing me an easy way and making me look like a doddering old fool.

Press and hold > open image in new tab > copy URL from there.

It's better this way. I got to read a fun text about a cute hawk.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:08 pm
by New Visegrad
tanken go vroom

same spec as the original, visual update only apart from switching the 12.7 and 7.62 MGs which should really have been done on the original too:
Main gun: Achura A17-125 125mm
Coaxial: Chen-Xi Kido 7.62mm MG
Commander's gun: Chen-Xi Ikido 12.7mm MG
Powerplant: Soqung Industrial Visala IV 1650shp

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:31 am
by Theodosiya
How effective a APCBC type round if manufactured in modern day calibre (90mm,105mm, and 120mm )?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:33 am
by Gallia-
i dont have the book on my desk but R. Simpkin talks about a sort of "rule of thumb" for full bore AP rounds' maximum penetration into armour in Antitank

i will find it later if kyiv doesnt snipe me first

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:38 am
by The Kievan People
Gallia- wrote:i dont have the book on my desk but R. Simpkin talks about a sort of "rule of thumb" for full bore AP rounds' maximum penetration into armour in Antitank

i will find it later if kyiv doesnt snipe me first


Ur clear.

I don't have my own copy of Antitank.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:43 am
by Gallia-
The Kievan People wrote:
Gallia- wrote:i dont have the book on my desk but R. Simpkin talks about a sort of "rule of thumb" for full bore AP rounds' maximum penetration into armour in Antitank

i will find it later if kyiv doesnt snipe me first


Ur clear.

I don't have my own copy of Antitank.


R. Simpkin says a "yardstick" of "detonation after one caliber of penetration" for Soviet APHE presumably BR-412 or something

183mm king of the undulating terrains

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:05 am
by Paragania
brum brum

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:15 am
by Fordorsia
Paragania wrote:brum brum

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Needs a machine gun mounted in the back window