Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO FUN] Mark IX

[Allanea]

AUTOLOADER CONCEPT FOR A BREAKTHROUGH TANK

[Autonomous Eastern Ukraine]

AUTOLOADER CONCEPT FOR A BREAKTHROUGH TANK

Fascinating

[Imperializt Russia]

AUTOLOADER CONCEPT FOR A BREAKTHROUGH TANK

I once came up with something like this for a joke.

The UK nuclear industry is wasted on me, clearly I should be in a Soviet-era design bureau.

[Purpelia]

This is not Soviet era. It's modern.

[Imperializt Russia]

So it is. The autoloaded 152mm T-80 isn't though.

[Dostanuot Loj]

AUTOLOADER CONCEPT FOR A BREAKTHROUGH TANK

I once came up with something like this for a joke.

The UK nuclear industry is wasted on me, clearly I should be in a Soviet-era design bureau.

I (Seriously) made this the autoloader of the MCA-7, many years ago.

[Allanea]

So it is. The autoloaded 152mm T-80 isn't though.

It did not, however, use this utterly mad contraption.

[Imperializt Russia]

Admittedly my joke proposal was very silly. For a 152mm HV+P+ conversion to my tanks, it would utilise an oversize T-80 loader for projectile, some propellant, and then for "full charge" shots, an additional propellant charge provided by bustle rack, for three-piece ammunition.

So it is. The autoloaded 152mm T-80 isn't though.

It did not, however, use this utterly mad contraption.

I'm sorry, you seem to have misspelled "utterly glorious".

[Allanea]

Admittedly my joke proposal was very silly. For a 152mm HV+P+ conversion to my tanks, it would utilise an oversize T-80 loader for projectile, some propellant, and then for "full charge" shots, an additional propellant charge provided by bustle rack, for three-piece ammunition.

It did not, however, use this utterly mad contraption.

I'm sorry, you seem to have misspelled "utterly glorious".

Frankly I prefer the carousel autoloader that have been showed up in the Spetzmash tank.

[New Dutch Colonies]

AUTOLOADER CONCEPT FOR A BREAKTHROUGH TANK

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tbh why just not use ten technicals with SPG-9s. A tank can only shoot one target.

[Allanea]

AUTOLOADER CONCEPT FOR A BREAKTHROUGH TANK

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I'm sorry that you find actual military science articles to offend your sense of realism.

[New Dutch Colonies]

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I'm sorry that you find actual military science articles to offend your sense of realism.

No one said that actual military science articles cannot include fun.

Which this one does.

[Imperializt Russia]

Admittedly my joke proposal was very silly. For a 152mm HV+P+ conversion to my tanks, it would utilise an oversize T-80 loader for projectile, some propellant, and then for "full charge" shots, an additional propellant charge provided by bustle rack, for three-piece ammunition.
I'm sorry, you seem to have misspelled "utterly glorious".

Frankly I prefer the carousel autoloader that have been showed up in the Spetzmash tank.

Do you have an image?

[Rich and Corporations]

Admittedly my joke proposal was very silly. For a 152mm HV+P+ conversion to my tanks, it would utilise an oversize T-80 loader for projectile, some propellant, and then for "full charge" shots, an additional propellant charge provided by bustle rack, for three-piece ammunition.

yes, the powder wouldn't be fully burnt in such a configuration, it would light anything ten meters to the front on fire.

[Imperializt Russia]

Admittedly my joke proposal was very silly. For a 152mm HV+P+ conversion to my tanks, it would utilise an oversize T-80 loader for projectile, some propellant, and then for "full charge" shots, an additional propellant charge provided by bustle rack, for three-piece ammunition.

yes, the powder wouldn't be fully burnt in such a configuration, it would light anything ten meters to the front on fire.

This is literally how artillery works, and in a roundabout way, how British tanks shells work.

Obviously, it's not by using traditional tank propellant systems.

[Rich and Corporations]

yes, the powder wouldn't be fully burnt in such a configuration, it would light anything ten meters to the front on fire.

This is literally how artillery works, and in a roundabout way, how British tanks shells work.

Obviously, it's not by using traditional tank propellant systems.

go to the shooting range more young nerd

[Gallia-]

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I'm sorry that you find actual military science articles to offend your sense of realism.

However, this tank’s 125mm gun is insufficiently powerful to reliably engage highly-protected targets, while the valuable work that has been done regarding the use of gas-turbine engines goes unused.

Block III tank alive in Muscovy.
Block III tank make album in Muscovy.
Fast turbine big bullet Block III.

[Chezzetcook]

Main armoured vehicles of the Chezzetcook Army are:

- Leopard 2A4 MBT: Replaced Centurion starting in 1991.
- CV9035 IFV: Replaced AVGP series 6x6 wheeled APC/IFVs in 2000 alongside LAV -35.
- LAV-35: Replaced AVGP series 6x6 wheeled APC/IFVs in 2000 alongside CV9035.
- Vickers VFM-5: Adopted in 1991 to provide armoured capability to the Parachute Regiment.

[Hrstrovokia]

Hey all, I was going to ask for some advice on the composition of a Mech Inf Brigade. Do you think this is a good layout?

x4 Mechanised Infantry Battalions, x1 Armoured Reconnaissance Company, x1 Artillery Battalion, x1 Armoured Infantry Company, x1 Tank Destroyer Company, x1 Air Defence Artillery Battalion, x1 Air Defence Missiles Company, x1 HQ & Service Battalion

[144 APCs, 1,028 Infantry, 24 Mortars, 12 Recon, 8 Armoured Vehicles, 4 IFV, 12 Tank Destroyers, 18 Howitzers, 18 SPADSs, 12 SAMs, 572 Support Vehicles]
[1,022 Crew, 2,792 Support Personnel]

I was thinking maybe the Armoured Infantry Cpy and Tank Destroyer Cpy should just be replaced with a proper Tank Battalion, maybe those parts aren't really strong enough. The vehicle in those units are the BMPT-72, BTR-T and a Kornet carrying 9P162.

[The Akasha Colony]

Hey all, I was going to ask for some advice on the composition of a Mech Inf Brigade. Do you think this is a good layout?

x4 Mechanised Infantry Battalions, x1 Armoured Reconnaissance Company, x1 Artillery Battalion, x1 Armoured Infantry Company, x1 Tank Destroyer Company, x1 Air Defence Artillery Battalion, x1 Air Defence Missiles Company, x1 HQ & Service Battalion

[144 APCs, 1,028 Infantry, 24 Mortars, 12 Recon, 8 Armoured Vehicles, 4 IFV, 12 Tank Destroyers, 18 Howitzers, 18 SPADSs, 12 SAMs, 572 Support Vehicles]
[1,022 Crew, 2,792 Support Personnel]

I was thinking maybe the Armoured Infantry Cpy and Tank Destroyer Cpy should just be replaced with a proper Tank Battalion, maybe those parts aren't really strong enough. The vehicle in those units are the BMPT-72, BTR-T and a Kornet carrying 9P162.

I support the idea of dropping the tank destroyers and armored infantry company in favor of a tank battalion, but in that case you'd end up with five maneuver battalions so I'd recommend dropping one of the mechanized infantry battalions to keep your brigade at four maneuver battalions. You might even consider going 2:2 tanks:infantry for maximum combined arms.

[Gallia-]

Put a tank destroyer company in each mechanized infantry battalion.

Consolidating the support battalion and HQ company is probably a bit weird unless you're going a weird Russian route and having like three commanders.

An ADA battalion and AD missile company is a lot of ADA which isn't really terribly useful for a brigade. You could probably just have 6 SPAAG and 6 SPAAM and be OK.

Why do you have armoured infantry and mechanized infantry? How are they different and why is there only one company of the former? What do they do? Are they tanks? A tank battalion or two would be better in that case, maybe replacing one or two of the mechanized infantry battalions.

[Allanea]

Frankly I prefer the carousel autoloader that have been showed up in the Spetzmash tank.

Do you have an image?

I could have sworn I posted about this previously...



Upper design is carousel with vertically-stored shells, bottom design is VLS tank.

[Opplandia]

Man, those designs look like they came straight from a computergame, like HALO maybe.

[Hrstrovokia]

I support the idea of dropping the tank destroyers and armored infantry company in favor of a tank battalion, but in that case you'd end up with five maneuver battalions so I'd recommend dropping one of the mechanized infantry battalions to keep your brigade at four maneuver battalions. You might even consider going 2:2 tanks:infantry for maximum combined arms.

Thanks, maybe that's the best thing to do.

Put a tank destroyer company in each mechanized infantry battalion.

Consolidating the support battalion and HQ company is probably a bit weird unless you're going a weird Russian route and having like three commanders.

An ADA battalion and AD missile company is a lot of ADA which isn't really terribly useful for a brigade. You could probably just have 6 SPAAG and 6 SPAAM and be OK.

Why do you have armoured infantry and mechanized infantry? How are they different and why is there only one company of the former? What do they do? Are they tanks? A tank battalion or two would be better in that case, maybe replacing one or two of the mechanized infantry battalions.

The HQ & Service battalion is a bit weird yeah but it kind of works for me. Been thinking of consolidating the air defence assets though, would 6 of each really be adequate?

The difference is the armoured infantry is equipped with ACVs (BMPT-72) and heavily armoured APCs (BTR-T), there is more firepower on those units and better protection. I read the BTRs and BMPs got wiped out in Grosny so I thought they could do with some backup. The mech infantry is really just for fast movement of infantry and is equipped with regular APCs (BTR-82A). My understanding of Mech Inf is that the APCs have limited ability to fight and usually withdraw after the infantry dismount. Wheeled APCs are cheaper so that's why this Mech Inf brigade is mainly APCs (Tank brigades have armoured infantry which are all IFVs - BMP-3M).

[Gallia-]

It's just a brigade.

Six of each is what IRL Soviet MRRs and TRs had. Six Gaskin and six Shilka (or 12 Tunguska?).

The battalions should have MANPADS in them. Like three or four teams of two men with Stingers or something.