Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO FUN] Mark IX

[New Vihenia]

It can fire 3B11 nuke shell (*w*)

[Laritaia]

Needs more Gun-mortar.

[Imperializt Russia]

Needs more Gun-mortar.

240mm gun-mortar?

What are you trying to do, awaken Lenin?

[Gallia-]

Needs more Gun-mortar.

*moritzer

[Krasny-Volny]

Isn't a gun-mortar just a mortar being fired horizontally? Or is it some kind of specialized weapon like this:

[Gallia-]

Not at all.

[Imperializt Russia]

A gun-mortar is a mortar capable of low-angle fire, in direct-fire.

The Vasilek is an example of this, as are the 2S9 Nona and 2S31 Vena SP gun-mortars.

[Gallia-]

A gun mortar is generally called a "breech loading mortar" by Wikipedia.

[Purpelia]

Well if we are looking at low angle direct fire weapons I imagine that technically you could probably, sort of fire a Ymir off in direct fire. I know that back in the day my DOD equivalent was proposing a strait up A-HE shell.

[Gallia-]

Real artillery pieces are mortizers and howtars.



I imagine the moritzer would just be Vasilek-type towed gun-mortar firing 105-107mm rounds.

[Imperializt Russia]

A gun mortar is generally called a "breech loading mortar" by Wikipedia.

I would imagine it's inherently easier to load a mortar for direct fire from the breech.

[Imperializt Russia]

Real artillery pieces are mortizers and howtars.

(Image)

I imagine the moritzer would just be Vasilek-type towed gun-mortar firing 105-107mm rounds.

Looks very similar to the 75mm Pack Howitzer I forget the type designation of. How come?

[Gallia-]

You would imagine wrong. 60mm mortars can and have been used as direct fire assault guns in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Gun-mortars are just easier to use from turrets.

Real artillery pieces are mortizers and howtars.

(Image)

I imagine the moritzer would just be Vasilek-type towed gun-mortar firing 105-107mm rounds.

Looks very similar to the 75mm Pack Howitzer I forget the type designation of. How come?

Because it's the 4.2" mortar on the 75mm's carriage.

Thus, the howtar.

[Gallia-]

Galla worships at the altar of the infantry mortar so naturally its entire artillery is just howitzers, gun-howitzers, howtars, mortars, and moritzers.

Vikys weep.

It also worships at the altar of mass and volume of fire so its largest gun-howitzers are 6" diameter and its largest mortars are ~120mm.

Allaneas weep.

[Imperializt Russia]

You would imagine wrong. 60mm mortars can and have been used as direct fire assault guns in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Gun-mortars are just easier to use from turrets.

I said easier.

[Gallia-]

You would imagine wrong. 60mm mortars can and have been used as direct fire assault guns in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Gun-mortars are just easier to use from turrets.

I said easier.

A muzzle loaded mortar is easier to load from a near vertical elevation and with a clear and open ceiling.

Checkmate atheists.

[Questers]

?

You mean why maintain one vehicle and one weapons system instead of four (including four radar systems)? Why have a crew of four instead of sixteen? Why have a tracked vehicle and not four wheeled vehicles?

Zu-23s don't have radar at all. They don't really even have anti-air sights as standards and are only capable of 'blocking fire' as AA weapons. (Except in the latest upgrade modifications where they have AA sights and RADAR coupling and coaxial MANPADs).

So when we were talkin about making a proto-shilka out of ZU-23s, I was assuming it was like the Middle-Eastern contraptions that do this - to shoot up ground targets.

[Yes, people actually do this.]

I was a bit confused because he said ZSU-23 (which as you know means the self-propelled mount) which is indeed radar-guided, but you are referring to the actual "gun" itself.

[Rich and Corporations]

I also think that big mortars are the eighth deadly sin TBF.

Well I am a Satanist so...

No longer following the talmud?

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Galla worships at the altar of the infantry mortar so naturally its entire artillery is just howitzers, gun-howitzers, howtars, mortars, and moritzers.

Vikys weep.

It also worships at the altar of mass and volume of fire so its largest gun-howitzers are 6" diameter and its largest mortars are ~120mm.

Allaneas weep.

no love for twenty five pounder?

[Questers]

"25 pounder"

you guys need to meet this guy



i call him the "200 Pounder Horse Artillery System"

[Cesopium]

Self-propelled 406mm howitzer at your service

[Gallia-]

Both are pretty useless.

[Purpelia]

Atomic HEAT anti tank 22cm - Ymir.
There is big and than there is fucking big.

[Allanea]

Should I translate a brief Russian article about potential autoloader systems for breakthrough tanks armed with a 152mm howitzer main gun? I feel I should.

[Purpelia]

Should I translate a brief Russian article about potential autoloader systems for breakthrough tanks armed with a 152mm howitzer main gun? I feel I should.

I feel kind of disappointed by the fact you even had to ask that question. Like you don't know us well enough to know that the answer should be yes.

[Autonomous Eastern Ukraine]

Should I translate a brief Russian article about potential autoloader systems for breakthrough tanks armed with a 152mm howitzer main gun? I feel I should.

Do it m8.