Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO FUN] Mark IX

[Allanea]

IT's been done. I'm not sure it's a very good idea, but BMP-2s have been used as sort of improvised light tanks in the Donbass conflict.

[Theodosiya]

Whew. Even our hands down BWP-2 are used as Amphibious AAA by the Marine Corps. (Tbh, they should've used it in its original role and either use 105/120mm armed variant. Or use Leopard 2. Or T-72/80/90 to go with WarPac theme). So, doable but inneficient?

[New Dutch Colonies]

Whew. Even our hands down BWP-2 are used as Amphibious AAA by the Marine Corps. (Tbh, they should've used it in its original role and either use 105/120mm armed variant. Or use Leopard 2. Or T-72/80/90 to go with WarPac theme). So, doable but inneficient?

BWP-2 as triple A? That's new.

[Theodosiya]

Desperate measure. Obviously because the 30mm gun could be used as AA gun, although obvioisly not the best choice. Would be Pantysr or Tunguska on BMP-3F or BWP-2 hull.

[New Dutch Colonies]

Desperate measure. Obviously because the 30mm gun could be used as AA gun, although obvioisly not the best choice. Would be Pantysr or Tunguska on BMP-3F or BWP-2 hull.

Ah I see. It's still funny though.

[Autonomous Eastern Ukraine]

It's late so this might be dumb but.

What is the viability of strapping the Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-6-30 on a T-64/T-80 chassis? (as some bizarre infantry support vehicle with limited AA use)

I tend to come up with dumb ideas like this late at night.

[Gallia-]

IT's been done. I'm not sure it's a very good idea, but BMP-2s have been used as sort of improvised light tanks in the Donbass conflict.

Owns irl.

[Crookfur]

It's late so this might be dumb but.

What is the viability of strapping the Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-6-30 on a T-64/T-80 chassis? (as some bizarre infantry support vehicle with limited AA use)

I tend to come up with dumb ideas like this late at night.

You would likely be better off using 1 or two GSh-30-2Ks or 2A38Ms

Much less chance of melting and cook off and IIRC a much lighter coolant system.

Surface mounted GSh-6-30s/AO-18s are only seen on naval vessels for a reason.

[Autonomous Eastern Ukraine]

It's late so this might be dumb but.

What is the viability of strapping the Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-6-30 on a T-64/T-80 chassis? (as some bizarre infantry support vehicle with limited AA use)

I tend to come up with dumb ideas like this late at night.

You would likely be better off using 1 or two GSh-30-2Ks or 2A38Ms

Much less chance of melting and cook off and IIRC a much lighter coolant system.

Surface mounted GSh-6-30s/AO-18s are only seen on naval vessels for a reason.

That does make more sense, I'll give it some more thought when it's not 1 am and I'm not running on 5 hours of sleep. Would 2 even fit in a turret? Or just stick to 1 like General electrics' proposed GAU-8 on a tank?

[Crookfur]

You would likely be better off using 1 or two GSh-30-2Ks or 2A38Ms

Much less chance of melting and cook off and IIRC a much lighter coolant system.

Surface mounted GSh-6-30s/AO-18s are only seen on naval vessels for a reason.

That does make more sense, I'll give it some more thought when it's not 1 am and I'm not running on 5 hours of sleep. Would 2 even fit in a turret? Or just stick to 1 like General electrics' proposed GAU-8 on a tank?

They fit a pair on tungusta/pantsir so it's doable.

[Imperializt Russia]

It's late so this might be dumb but.

What is the viability of strapping the Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-6-30 on a T-64/T-80 chassis? (as some bizarre infantry support vehicle with limited AA use)

I tend to come up with dumb ideas like this late at night.

You would likely be better off using 1 or two GSh-30-2Ks or 2A38Ms

Much less chance of melting and cook off and IIRC a much lighter coolant system.

Surface mounted GSh-6-30s/AO-18s are only seen on naval vessels for a reason.

^
This. Original Shilka was very lightly armoured, so Pantsir or Tunguska would be entirely sufficient for the same job with slightly more firepower.
In my early days, I had a "futur-Shilka" based off a devianart image, which was basically just a heavy 30/40mm Shilka on a tank chassis - Pantsir-S1 is probably better anyway.

[New Vihenia]

Desperate measure. Obviously because the 30mm gun could be used as AA gun, although obvioisly not the best choice. Would be Pantysr or Tunguska on BMP-3F or BWP-2 hull.

The idea of this so call "kendaraan anti serangan udara" is to carry manpads squad. Not really using its 30 mm.

[Rich and Corporations]

This. Original Shilka was very lightly armoured, so Pantsir or Tunguska would be entirely sufficient for the same job with slightly more firepower.
In my early days, I had a "futur-Shilka" based off a devianart image, which was basically just a heavy 30/40mm Shilka on a tank chassis - Pantsir-S1 is probably better anyway.

efficient timed fuses would make helicopters and drones obsolete

[The Soodean Imperium]

My "next-generation SPAAG," if I ever get around to making it, will have twin 55mm autocannons firing smart-fused ammunition

futur-Shilka is dead

long live futur-Sparka

[Taihei Tengoku]

One of nature's attempts to evolve an otomatic

[Gallia-]

Give it four crewmen who poke their heads out and watch cardinal directions in ninety degree cones.

True industrial future where Humanity shakes off its foibles like "sex" and mass produces soldiers in birth factories.

Manpower bottlenecks forever gone.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

According to The Wyoming air national guard, the 153rd Airlift Wing, participated in testing of 12 of these vehicles in the late 90s.

(Image)
M1025 HMMWV with 30mm M230 "Chain Guns"

What would be their application?

To replace attrition of M2 Bradleys for light-duty fire-support roles.

Feasability as a "last-ditch" weapon more than something to actually field anytime soon (or ever, if we're lucky).

Or as an el-cheapo Linebacker, to free up those hulls for commie tank-bust'n.

[Gallia-]

The last of the NSD mememachines.



1st Parachute-Armored Division Air Force military police shooting a Mk 19.

ASP-30 would have replaced that if the USAF decided to buy it.

They didn't.

ATK cried itself to sleep that night.

[Imperializt Russia]

My "next-generation SPAAG," if I ever get around to making it, will have twin 55mm autocannons firing smart-fused ammunition

futur-Shilka is dead

long live futur-Sparka

(Image)

Futur-Shilka will take M829A1, better with ERA, and will shred your futur-Sparka

[New Dutch Colonies]

>being a slavaboo
>not praising ze German Leopard 1 AA memevehicle

We Dutch call them Pruttel due to the sound they make (PRRRT, Pruttel to make it less autistic to pronounce). My dad keeps telling how happily those things drove past with their turrets spinning faster than Steven Seagal snapping someone's neck.

[Opplandia]

>being a slavaboo
>not praising ze German Leopard 2 AA memevehicle

We Dutch call them Pruttel due to the sound they make (PRRRT, Pruttel to make it less autistic to pronounce). My dad keeps telling how happily those things drove past with their turrets spinning faster than Steven Seagal snapping someone's neck.

I suppose youre referring to the Gepard AA-tank, which is based on Leopard 1; not the Leo 2.

[New Dutch Colonies]

>being a slavaboo
>not praising ze German Leopard 2 AA memevehicle

We Dutch call them Pruttel due to the sound they make (PRRRT, Pruttel to make it less autistic to pronounce). My dad keeps telling how happily those things drove past with their turrets spinning faster than Steven Seagal snapping someone's neck.

I suppose youre referring to the Gepard AA-tank, which is based on Leopard 1; not the Leo 2.

Welp, my mistake.

[Autonomous Eastern Ukraine]

That does make more sense, I'll give it some more thought when it's not 1 am and I'm not running on 5 hours of sleep. Would 2 even fit in a turret? Or just stick to 1 like General electrics' proposed GAU-8 on a tank?

They fit a pair on tungusta/pantsir so it's doable.

Well that's good.

You would likely be better off using 1 or two GSh-30-2Ks or 2A38Ms

Much less chance of melting and cook off and IIRC a much lighter coolant system.

Surface mounted GSh-6-30s/AO-18s are only seen on naval vessels for a reason.

^
This. Original Shilka was very lightly armoured, so Pantsir or Tunguska would be entirely sufficient for the same job with slightly more firepower.
In my early days, I had a "futur-Shilka" based off a devianart image, which was basically just a heavy 30/40mm Shilka on a tank chassis - Pantsir-S1 is probably better anyway.

Well the idea (now that I've given it some actual thought) is to make a domestically produced replacement for the shilka (hence why they don't just use the Pantsir).

[New Vihenia]

WIP scene, now adding machine gun carrier :3

[Imperializt Russia]

^
This. Original Shilka was very lightly armoured, so Pantsir or Tunguska would be entirely sufficient for the same job with slightly more firepower.
In my early days, I had a "futur-Shilka" based off a devianart image, which was basically just a heavy 30/40mm Shilka on a tank chassis - Pantsir-S1 is probably better anyway.

Well the idea (now that I've given it some actual thought) is to make a domestically produced replacement for the shilka (hence why they don't just use the Pantsir).

If you're trying to produce a not-Shilka, as "autonomous east Ukraine", then I don't understand the 6-30 as a starting point. I can't imagine those being easy to come by. Surely the easiest thing to come by would be 30mm autocannons in single or dual-barrel mounts, and combine them into a gunnery platform. It will be less Shilka, and more ZSU-57, really.