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Postby Sevvania » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:34 am

Azurg wrote:I swear I'm the only one who hasn't seen the film

Sev's verdict:
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On a vaguely infantry-related note, though: Water-cooled guns in 5.56mm. What possible justification could be made for such a weapon to come into existence in the pre-war Fallout universe?
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Postby Azurg » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:39 am

Sevvania wrote:Sev's verdict:

I lauged both at the picture and that scene in the movie.
On a vaguely infantry-related note, though: Water-cooled guns in 5.56mm. What possible justification could be made for such a weapon to come into existence in the pre-war Fallout universe?

I can't think of any, tbh. It'd make a squidge more sense in a full-power cartridge, but 5,56mm just seems. . .
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:39 am

Sevvania wrote:On a vaguely infantry-related note, though: Water-cooled guns in 5.56mm. What possible justification could be made for such a weapon to come into existence in the pre-war Fallout universe?


Bethesda cannot "into gun"?

Besides, Obsidian was pretty good with it's guns.

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Postby New Nirvash » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:49 am

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Fordorsia wrote:Just saw a video of Black Man and Bad Guy fighting with lightsabers in star wars. I didn't expect them to cross swords and have a push fight while delivering dialogue but they did anyway. gg M1 Abrams.

It must be borne in mind that they are...
A Storm trooper who has picked up a lightsabre and is waving it around with absolutely no training at all, and the apprentice of the sith lord - who is explicitly shown to be a rather pathetic individual and who has not finished his training.

Maybe the Knights of Ren won't be a complete disappointment.

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Postby New Nirvash » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:51 am

Sevvania wrote:On a vaguely infantry-related note, though: Water-cooled guns in 5.56mm. What possible justification could be made for such a weapon to come into existence in the pre-war Fallout universe?

Todd Howard said 'just give me something that looks sufficiently _____punk' and the art team (composed entirely of people who have never even seen a firearm in person) made it happen.

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Postby Azurg » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:07 pm

tbf though, it's better than the endless procession of AR15 and Kalashnikov derivatives that parade their way across modern videogames
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Postby Sevvania » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:10 pm

Azurg wrote:tbf though, it's better than the endless procession of AR15 and Kalashnikov derivatives that parade their way across modern videogames

It's definitely different, but I like trying to come up with in-universe explanations for things that may simply be the result of artistic license.
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Postby Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:15 pm

Does ammunition corrode if left out for a while? I keep wondering in Fallout 4 if it's such a good idea to collect 200 year old rounds and feed hundreds of them through my shitty pipe pistol that I never clean.
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Postby New Nirvash » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:15 pm

Azurg wrote:tbf though, it's better than the endless procession of AR15 and Kalashnikov derivatives that parade their way across modern videogames

No it's not.

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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:17 pm

Sevvania wrote:
Azurg wrote:tbf though, it's better than the endless procession of AR15 and Kalashnikov derivatives that parade their way across modern videogames

It's definitely different, but I like trying to come up with in-universe explanations for things that may simply be the result of artistic license.



Here is one "Example" of a totally theoretical and mostly handwaved in-universe explanation a compatriot of mine & I came up with; it's a Power Armor-issued sustained fire LSW to offer fire-support whilst functioning as a stopgap measure till the mass-issue of laser weapons through-out the army (Marines got/were-getting plasma weapons if I remember correctly from OG-Fallout lore-stuff) was completed. Honestly, I have no idea.


Personally, I prefer Nirv's answer.
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We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
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Postby Azurg » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:26 pm

Sevvania wrote:It's definitely different, but I like trying to come up with in-universe explanations for things that may simply be the result of artistic license.

Fair enough



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To each their own, I suppose.
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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:31 pm

How do I scope on my NotLuger Rifle
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Postby EsToVnIa » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:38 pm

do the mature thing and look up scope mounts on google rather than ask a pointless question you can figure out yourself here?
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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:46 pm

Estovnia wrote:do the mature thing and look up scope mounts on google rather than ask a pointless question you can figure out yourself here?


The cartridges ejecting straight up and the toggle lock would prevent a scope being in the usual position and apparently offset scopes are shit. I can't google "where does the scope go on a luger rifle"
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Postby EsToVnIa » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:50 pm

don't make a sniper rifle variant then?
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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:54 pm

Estovnia wrote:don't make a sniper rifle variant then?


It's for optics in general
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Postby EsToVnIa » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:56 pm

luger rifle shouldnt need optics since its the 20s
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Postby Kazarogkai » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:58 pm

New Nirvash wrote:
Sevvania wrote:On a vaguely infantry-related note, though: Water-cooled guns in 5.56mm. What possible justification could be made for such a weapon to come into existence in the pre-war Fallout universe?

Todd Howard said 'just give me something that looks sufficiently _____punk' and the art team (composed entirely of people who have never even seen a firearm in person) made it happen.

The Railway rifle was pretty cool...
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Postby Alimeria- » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:22 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Estovnia wrote:do the mature thing and look up scope mounts on google rather than ask a pointless question you can figure out yourself here?


The cartridges ejecting straight up and the toggle lock would prevent a scope being in the usual position and apparently offset scopes are shit. I can't google "where does the scope go on a luger rifle"

Scout scope or offset scope.
Really the only two options available.
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Postby The balkens » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:49 pm

Estovnia wrote:luger rifle shouldnt need optics since its the 20s


But how else can I stop communist expansion?

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Postby Purpelia » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:50 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Estovnia wrote:do the mature thing and look up scope mounts on google rather than ask a pointless question you can figure out yourself here?


The cartridges ejecting straight up and the toggle lock would prevent a scope being in the usual position and apparently offset scopes are shit. I can't google "where does the scope go on a luger rifle"

You make a sniper variant with an offset action like the Swiss did.
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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:53 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
The cartridges ejecting straight up and the toggle lock would prevent a scope being in the usual position and apparently offset scopes are shit. I can't google "where does the scope go on a luger rifle"

You make a sniper variant with an offset action like the Swiss did.


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Postby Purpelia » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:54 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:You make a sniper variant with an offset action like the Swiss did.


Unacceptable

On the contrary my blade loving friend. The only true way is to make all your rifles offset!
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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:56 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Unacceptable

On the contrary my blade loving friend. The only true way is to make all your rifles offset!


I could just make the action and magazine horizontal
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Postby Purpelia » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:57 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:On the contrary my blade loving friend. The only true way is to make all your rifles offset!


I could just make the action and magazine horizontal

Not worth it. Do that and you get all the issues of side loading rifles. The trick is to angle it just enough for the scope to fit and not a minute more.

Not that it really matters anyway. Because nobody is going to be crazy enough to keep his eye right up to the scope whilst a Luger mechanism is swinging wildly around millimeters from their face.
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