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by Roski » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:07 pm
by Taihei Tengoku » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:10 pm
Roski wrote:so when you are assembling a squad, in practical terms, for regular run of the millcannon fodderinfantry, what should this sqaud composition be?
by Roski » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:11 pm
by Aqizithiuda » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:14 pm
Estovnia wrote:So if you wanted to mess around/tinker, 5.8x42 would be the best one to use as a base?
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I liked the prostitute - never quote me on that.
Puzikas wrote:This is beyond condom on toes. This is full on Bra-on-balls.
Puzikas wrote:Im not cheep-You can quote me on that.
Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...
by Immoren » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:17 pm
Roski wrote:so when you are assembling a squad, in practical terms, for regular run of the millcannon fodderinfantry, what should this sqaud composition be?
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Greater Carloso » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:27 pm
Immoren wrote:Roski wrote:so when you are assembling a squad, in practical terms, for regular run of the millcannon fodderinfantry, what should this sqaud composition be?
8 men
Squad leader
Machine gunner
Machine gunners assistant
Vehicle driver
Squad second in command
Rifleman with underbarrle grenade launcher
Rifleman with not!m72s
Rifleman with not!m72s
by Taihei Tengoku » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:35 pm
by Husseinarti » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:42 pm
Roski wrote:so when you are assembling a squad, in practical terms, for regular run of the millcannon fodderinfantry, what should this sqaud composition be?
by Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:54 pm
by Immoren » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:58 pm
Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:Are carbines slowly replacing rifles? It seems over the past century everything has been getting smaller. First it was full-sized bolt action rifles for WWI, they cut-down bolt action rifles(like Kar98k), then intermediate cartridges in semi or fully automatic rifles, now it's carbines for everyone. What's next? PDWs being the next big thing?
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by EsToVnIa » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:10 pm
by Puzikas » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:39 pm
Aqizithiuda wrote:(Puz, want to share any light on that?)
Sevvania wrote:I don't post much, but I am always here.
Usually waiting for Puz ;-;
by Husseinarti » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:41 pm
Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:Are carbines slowly replacing rifles? It seems over the past century everything has been getting smaller. First it was full-sized bolt action rifles for WWI, they cut-down bolt action rifles(like Kar98k), then intermediate cartridges in semi or fully automatic rifles, now it's carbines for everyone. What's next? PDWs being the next big thing?
by Kazarogkai » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:47 pm
Roski wrote:so when you are assembling a squad, in practical terms, for regular run of the millcannon fodderinfantry, what should this sqaud composition be?
by Aqizithiuda » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:52 pm
Puzikas wrote:Aqizithiuda wrote:(Puz, want to share any light on that?)
As the DoD and DoJ have not given me a contract to work with 5.8x42 (though they had a RQFI in summer of 2012, but nothing has come of that yet) I have not been able to do anything in a controlled or lab setting, so everything I know of it is based on internet sources, my own (experienced) conclusions and conjecture.
Air cavities tend to cause the projectile to smush down in impact (Ah yes, the first time I have ever done the scientific use of the word "smush") and increase surface area upon contact, reducing penetration of material. In soft material its generally not significant, but it is for metallic plates or similar hardened materials (I.e; Body armor).
The Chineese claims of better penetration are unsubstantiated as there is no independent testing; the numbers are there though for DBP10.
I really don't like it because [China] but its interesting none the less.
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I liked the prostitute - never quote me on that.
Puzikas wrote:This is beyond condom on toes. This is full on Bra-on-balls.
Puzikas wrote:Im not cheep-You can quote me on that.
Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...
by Husseinarti » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:54 pm
Kazarogkai wrote:Roski wrote:so when you are assembling a squad, in practical terms, for regular run of the millcannon fodderinfantry, what should this sqaud composition be?
Depends on what their specialty is. If your talking about a run of the mill Rifle squad anywhere between 8-14 troops in total. You should have at the minimum 1 GPMG/MMG a couple grenadiers or DMR's for support, and finally 1-2 LMG/SAW for individual fire team support. At the minimum your squad should be able to be able to be broken down into 2 fire teams that shall be between 3-6 troops that are able to maneuver and support one another in combat, one suppress while the other moves and vice versa. If these are light infantry you can make use of either a Truck or maybe a few LUV(Hummer, Jeep) for transport atleast in the back lines. But if these are meant as front line heavy infantry an APC or if your able an IFV is essential.
by Puzikas » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:31 pm
Husseinarti wrote:The following M1 Garand rifle was really the only rifle that didn't change the length of the weapon overall. In fact while most of these rifles remained in the 9lbs range, the M1 Garand was heavier than the previous rifles being 9.5 From what I understand, the fact that the M1 Garand was instead changed in .30-06 instead of its original .276 cartridge and some good old "If it ain't broken, don't fix it" mentality, the barrel remained the same length.
Aqizithiuda wrote:Huh, I figured it would be the opposite: the increase surface area would decrease barrier penetration, while the air gap would allow the core to separate and penetrate hard targets better.
Sevvania wrote:I don't post much, but I am always here.
Usually waiting for Puz ;-;
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:31 pm
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Kazarogkai » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:32 pm
Husseinarti wrote:Kazarogkai wrote:
Depends on what their specialty is. If your talking about a run of the mill Rifle squad anywhere between 8-14 troops in total. You should have at the minimum 1 GPMG/MMG a couple grenadiers or DMR's for support, and finally 1-2 LMG/SAW for individual fire team support. At the minimum your squad should be able to be able to be broken down into 2 fire teams that shall be between 3-6 troops that are able to maneuver and support one another in combat, one suppress while the other moves and vice versa. If these are light infantry you can make use of either a Truck or maybe a few LUV(Hummer, Jeep) for transport atleast in the back lines. But if these are meant as front line heavy infantry an APC or if your able an IFV is essential.
14 guys jesus
I guess if its like 1945 that'd be cool.
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:34 pm
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Husseinarti » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:36 pm
Kazarogkai wrote:
That would probably be including support elements(driver, squad leader, APC crew, etc).
"The squad, 班, or section was the basic unit of the National Revolutionary Army (the Republic of China), and would usually be 14 men strong. An infantry squad from an elite German-trained division would ideally have one light machine gun and 10 rifles, but only one of the three squads in a non-elite Central Army division would have a light machine gun. Furthermore, the regular provincial army divisions had no machine guns at all.[5]"
Source
Husseinarti wrote:I guess if its like 1945 that'd be cool.
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:38 pm
Immoren wrote:Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:Are carbines slowly replacing rifles? It seems over the past century everything has been getting smaller. First it was full-sized bolt action rifles for WWI, they cut-down bolt action rifles(like Kar98k), then intermediate cartridges in semi or fully automatic rifles, now it's carbines for everyone. What's next? PDWs being the next big thing?
Someone once argued that carbines have already replaced rifles. Because he opined that all modern service assault rifles are too short to be called rifles.
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
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