Infantry Discussion Thread, Mk. 8 Mod. 0 [No Kaiju]

[EsToVnIa]

have you tried not making a 30mm gun

[Fordorsia]

have you tried not making a 30mm gun

nah fuck that

[Ulfr-Reich]

have you tried not making a 30mm gun

nah fuck that

This is a Solothurn 20mm semi-automatic anti-tank rifle:



Consider the sheer scale of what you are working with; you might very well be working on what would be better suited to the role of a towed weapon.

[Arkandros]

Could you have a ring midway down the barrel that impinges on the springs and just have it thread into the body? The big problem I see with that is your barrel has to be a uniform diameter along its length (except for the ring), which could mean the barrel isn't strong enough at the breech and blows up.

[Aqizithiuda]

have you tried not making a 30mm gun

He's drunk too much vodka for that.

[Fordorsia]

Could you have a ring midway down the barrel that impinges on the springs and just have it thread into the body? The big problem I see with that is your barrel has to be a uniform diameter along its length (except for the ring), which could mean the barrel isn't strong enough at the breech and blows up.

So have a ring around the barrel that compresses the spring during recoil, and have the other end of the springattached to the recoil guard that wraps around the chamber/a vertical extension of the front of the reciver that wraps around the barrel?

Like so?

[Arkandros]

Could you have a ring midway down the barrel that impinges on the springs and just have it thread into the body? The big problem I see with that is your barrel has to be a uniform diameter along its length (except for the ring), which could mean the barrel isn't strong enough at the breech and blows up.

So have a ring around the barrel that compresses the spring during recoil, and have the other end of the springattached to the recoil guard that wraps around the chamber/a vertical extension of the front of the reciver that wraps around the barrel?

Like so?

I was thinking more like this (pardon the 30 second MS paint quality), where it threads into the bolt and pushes on the front spring mount during recoil.

[Fordorsia]

So have a ring around the barrel that compresses the spring during recoil, and have the other end of the springattached to the recoil guard that wraps around the chamber/a vertical extension of the front of the reciver that wraps around the barrel?

Like so?

I was thinking more like this (pardon the 30 second MS paint quality), where it threads into the bolt and pushes on the front spring mount during recoil.

So like this?

I don't get the screw into the reciever part since the reciever is the part that the barrel is on top of, so there's nowhere to screw it into

What you're saying probably makes sense but it's late here so I'm having a bit of trouble thinking. If anyone else has idea then throw them out there. I'll get back to it tomorrow.

[Arkandros]

I was thinking more like this (pardon the 30 second MS paint quality), where it threads into the bolt and pushes on the front spring mount during recoil.

So like this?

I don't get the screw into the reciever part since the reciever is the part that the barrel is on top of, so there's nowhere to screw it into

What you're saying probably makes sense but it's late here so I'm having a bit of trouble thinking. If anyone else has idea then throw them out there. I'll get back to it tomorrow.

Yeah, like that, but instead of having a built up breech, the barrel has a thread on the outside and threads into the chamber/bolt/whatever holds the round so that the barrel can be removed and inserted from the front, like a machinegun barrel. The thought is that, if you need to put the barrel through holes in the recoil mechanism, the breech can't be built up or else you end up with the barrel 'floating' in large holes in the plates of the recoil system. I'm pretty tired, so i'm probably doing a poor job explaining.

[Fordorsia]

So like this?

I don't get the screw into the reciever part since the reciever is the part that the barrel is on top of, so there's nowhere to screw it into

What you're saying probably makes sense but it's late here so I'm having a bit of trouble thinking. If anyone else has idea then throw them out there. I'll get back to it tomorrow.

Yeah, like that, but instead of having a built up breech, the barrel has a thread on the outside and threads into the chamber/bolt/whatever holds the round so that the barrel can be removed and inserted from the front, like a machinegun barrel. The thought is that, if you need to put the barrel through holes in the recoil mechanism, the breech can't be built up or else you end up with the barrel 'floating' in large holes in the plates of the recoil system. I'm pretty tired, so i'm probably doing a poor job explaining.

So the chamber is fixed to the reciever and the barrel screws into it. There is a ring on the barrel that pushes on the recoil mechanism, but the ring isn't attached to the recoil mechanism so that the barrel can be unscrewed and removed through me mechanism. I think I got it.

With a set up like that, I may be able to have one larger spring around the barrel like I did originally instead of the two-spring frame. I'll try it out tomorrow.

And I'll also need to figure out how the bolt and chamber attach to the receiver, since they recoil with the barrel obviously. I was thining about having a pin going throught both sides of the reciver, and going through an extension of the bottom of the chamber. That way when it recoils, it only goes back and not up, and resembles a charging handle. I figured that would be too dangerous though.

Would having the bolt on a set of rails work? ISn't that how artillery does it?

[Radicchio]

That time of year again, Zday approches.

We are doing a Zday RP in our region and I am curious, is there any delivery system or device that comes to mine (maybe an air rifle?) that would be effective for shooting Zeds with the cure?

[Ulfr-Reich]

That time of year again, Zday approches.

We are doing a Zday RP in our region and I am curious, is there any delivery system or device that comes to mine (maybe an air rifle?) that would be effective for shooting Zeds with the cure?

Militarized version of this:



Used in hunting boar, could probably work.

cucklefucking double-post, gg NS

[The Kievan People]

That time of year again, Zday approches.

We are doing a Zday RP in our region and I am curious, is there any delivery system or device that comes to mine (maybe an air rifle?) that would be effective for shooting Zeds with the cure?

You mean Zombies.

[Transvaal Vrystaat]

That time of year again, Zday approches.

We are doing a Zday RP in our region and I am curious, is there any delivery system or device that comes to mine (maybe an air rifle?) that would be effective for shooting Zeds with the cure?

If by cure you mean bullets, I'd suggest the AR-18.

You mean Zombies.

What he said.

Or, if you absolutely don't want to call a zombie a zombie, Zulu might work.

[The Kievan People]

Zulu might work.

Or, Commit sudoku.

[Ulfr-Reich]

Or, if you absolutely don't want to call a zombie a zombie, Zulu might work.

If that be the case, I'd advise Lee-Metfords or Martini-Henrys to dispatch the troublesome undead.

[Transvaal Vrystaat]

Zulu might work.

Or, Commit sudoku.

That is also an acceptable alternative, because zombies aren't threatening if you have a military and health system that's above third world level.

If that be the case, I'd advise Lee-Metfords or Martini-Henrys to dispatch the troublesome undead.

>not using the maxim gun

Do you want the coloreds zombies to win?

[Ulfr-Reich]

Do you want the coloreds zombies to win?

It's almost like you don't want to use .5 inch Vickers Guns.

[Transvaal Vrystaat]

There's a 12.7mm Vickers Gun?

[Aqizithiuda]

There's a 12.7mm Vickers Gun?

They made a 40mm Vickers gun (well, okay, it was technically a Maxim gun, but that's really all the Vickers is).

[Gallia-]

There's a 12.7mm Vickers Gun?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_.50_machine_gun

[Verdiga]

Does this unit hierarchy look any good? Any help here?

-Detachment (2 soldiers)
-Specialized Team

A Specialized Team could be as follows:

Fire Team (usually sniper cell, ATGM cell, etc)
1x Fire Team Commander (usually a Corporal)
2x Specialist (usually 1x operator, 1x assistant)
1x Rifleman or Support Specialist

Assault Team
1x Assault Team Commander (usually a Corporal)
2x Rifleman
1x Support Specialist (could be one with an anti-armor loadout, one with an anti-personnel loadout, one with a combat medic loadout, etc.)

-Squad

An average squad consists of:
-Commander (usually a Sergeant)
-2x Specialized Team

-Platoon

An average platoon consists of:
-Commander (usually a Lieutenant)
-3x-4x Squad

-Company

An average company consists of:
-Commander (usually a Captain or Major)
-2x-3x Platoons

-Battalion

An average battalion consists of:
-Commander (usually a Major or Lieutenant Colonel)
-2x-3x Companies

-Regiment

An average regiment consists of:
-Commander (usually a Colonel)
-2x Battalions

-Brigade

An average brigade consists of:
-Commander (usually a Brigadier)
-2x-3x more Regiments

-Division

An average division consists of:
-Commander (usually a Major General)
-2x-3x or more Regiments

-Corps

An average corps consists of:
-Commander (usually a Lieutenant General)
-2x-3x Divisions

-Army

An average army consists of:
-Commander (usually a General or Marshal)
-2x-3x Corps

Any more (i.e. Front/Theater) would mean Verdiga needs a bigger army. But Verdiga is limited to around 200,000 troops in the entire Armed Forces.

[Transvaal Vrystaat]

There's a 12.7mm Vickers Gun?

They made a 40mm Vickers gun (well, okay, it was technically a Maxim gun, but that's really all the Vickers is).

Wasn't the only functional difference between the two weapons the action they used?

There's a 12.7mm Vickers Gun?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_.50_machine_gun

Neat.

[Kamoriaa]

Would be giving every soldier (323,000 actives) an RPG-76 Komar type of device be plausible + logistical?

[Purpelia]

I am going to say no. Like everyone involves people such as snipers, drivers, guys that carry ATGM's and machine guns and all sorts of kit as well as everyone performing duties in the rear such as guarding ammo dumps and even MP's. They don't need AT weapons. And they can hardly be expected to carry the weight around either.