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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:35 pm

M16 has everything the FAL has just in a better, lighter package
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Postby Antarticaria » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:38 pm

Gallia- wrote:fal is just a slightly worse m16 in every regard basically tbh



M16's arent so bad.. Just sucks swinging those t-rex weapons around in tight spaces... I enjoy the M4A1 though.
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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:39 pm

Estovnia wrote:M16 has everything the FAL has just in a better, lighter package


Don't discount the original AR10 pls ;~;
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:09 pm

Gallia- wrote:truth spake



Jim Sullivan is a god.
Ave Nex Alea
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Postby Ardavia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:01 pm

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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:20 pm

Ardavia wrote:all hail



Ave Nex Alea
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

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Postby Lolcalization » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:39 pm

Ardavia wrote:all hail

All of those poor weapons, put up on stage and forced to perform for peoples amusement. Some one should call PETF.

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Postby Immoren » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:39 pm

Ardavia wrote:all hail


Cult of V8

Cult of gun cube

What’s third cult for (un)holy trinity?
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:43 pm

Immoren wrote:Cult of V8

Cult of gun cube


Being witnessed shiny & chrome while hallowing the /K/ube. Gonna be a great day when the need to go innawoods or unnaground happens m8.
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

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Postby Kazarogkai » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:57 pm

Gallia- wrote:fal is just a slightly worse m16 in every regard basically tbh


FAl Is a hell of a lot more pretty than the M16 for one thing. As I said before Eugene Stoner must have had a really bad taste in women because that thing is ugly as all hell. A burnt turd that was made into the shape of a gun is what it looks like too me. The best score you are ever going to get out of my is a 3/10, and that is being generous. Heck The AK is a prettier gun, and soviet weapons are known for not being that flattering, I give the AK a soft 4/10, or a hard 5/10. That banana magazine and barrel sell it for me honestly.
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Postby Crookfur » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:00 pm

Immoren wrote:
Ardavia wrote:all hail


Cult of V8

Cult of gun cube

What’s third cult for (un)holy trinity?


Cult of the Lebanese tank tower?
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Postby Crookfur » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:05 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Gallia- wrote:fal is just a slightly worse m16 in every regard basically tbh


FAl Is a hell of a lot more pretty than the M16 for one thing. As I said before Eugene Stoner must have had a really bad taste in women because that thing is ugly as all hell. A burnt turd that was made into the shape of a gun is what it looks like too me. The best score you are ever going to get out of my is a 3/10, and that is being generous. Heck The AK is a prettier gun, and soviet weapons are known for not being that flattering, I give the AK a soft 4/10, or a hard 5/10. That banana magazine and barrel sell it for me honestly.

Oh noes tastes are totally subjective what will we do when we all realise that we all appreciate asthetics differently.

We get it, you don't like the AR series but your taste is simply your opinion not some fact and tbh most people would tend to disagree with your thoughts on the matter.



Anyway we all know the baker rifle is the true optimum of beauty ;)
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Postby Husseinarti » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:24 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Gallia- wrote:fal is just a slightly worse m16 in every regard basically tbh


FAl Is a hell of a lot more pretty than the M16 for one thing. As I said before Eugene Stoner must have had a really bad taste in women because that thing is ugly as all hell. A burnt turd that was made into the shape of a gun is what it looks like too me. The best score you are ever going to get out of my is a 3/10, and that is being generous. Heck The AK is a prettier gun, and soviet weapons are known for not being that flattering, I give the AK a soft 4/10, or a hard 5/10. That banana magazine and barrel sell it for me honestly.


Your tastes in what looks good reflect your intelligence.

Just saying.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:58 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Gallia- wrote:fal is just a slightly worse m16 in every regard basically tbh


FAl Is a hell of a lot more pretty than the M16 for one thing. As I said before Eugene Stoner must have had a really bad taste in women because that thing is ugly as all hell. A burnt turd that was made into the shape of a gun is what it looks like too me. The best score you are ever going to get out of my is a 3/10, and that is being generous. Heck The AK is a prettier gun, and soviet weapons are known for not being that flattering, I give the AK a soft 4/10, or a hard 5/10. That banana magazine and barrel sell it for me honestly.

Both are inferior.
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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:04 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Gallia- wrote:fal is just a slightly worse m16 in every regard basically tbh


FAl Is a hell of a lot more pretty than the M16 for one thing. As I said before Eugene Stoner must have had a really bad taste in women because that thing is ugly as all hell. A burnt turd that was made into the shape of a gun is what it looks like too me. The best score you are ever going to get out of my is a 3/10, and that is being generous. Heck The AK is a prettier gun, and soviet weapons are known for not being that flattering, I give the AK a soft 4/10, or a hard 5/10. That banana magazine and barrel sell it for me honestly.


b/c aesthetics = performance
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:08 pm

One can easily argue that aesthetics are the only thing that matters in games like NS.



What'd make the better PDW, a QCW05 or QBZ95B?
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:10 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:One can easily argue that aesthetics are the only thing that matters in games like NS.



What'd make the better PDW, a QCW05 or QBZ95B?

Something that isn't chicom shit.
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:10 pm

Estovnia wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
FAl Is a hell of a lot more pretty than the M16 for one thing. As I said before Eugene Stoner must have had a really bad taste in women because that thing is ugly as all hell. A burnt turd that was made into the shape of a gun is what it looks like too me. The best score you are ever going to get out of my is a 3/10, and that is being generous. Heck The AK is a prettier gun, and soviet weapons are known for not being that flattering, I give the AK a soft 4/10, or a hard 5/10. That banana magazine and barrel sell it for me honestly.


b/c aesthetics = performance

Could be. I mean, think about it. As long as you are in the same general class and have similarish stats one rifle is as good as another. It's not like issuing AK-whatever over M-whatever is suddenly going to turn each soldier into Rambo. And I mean that in both the supersoldier killer and traumatized veteran kind of way. Looks meanwhile can help sell your rifle on the civilian market thus netting you cash to buy more important things for your army like artillery. So there it is.
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Postby Husseinarti » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:10 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:One can easily argue that aesthetics are the only thing that matters in games like NS.



What'd make the better PDW, a QCW05 or QBZ95B?


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Postby Axis Nova » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:14 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Estovnia wrote:
b/c aesthetics = performance

Could be. I mean, think about it. As long as you are in the same general class and have similarish stats one rifle is as good as another. It's not like issuing AK-whatever over M-whatever is suddenly going to turn each soldier into Rambo. And I mean that in both the supersoldier killer and traumatized veteran kind of way. Looks meanwhile can help sell your rifle on the civilian market thus netting you cash to buy more important things for your army like artillery. So there it is.


This is, basically, true. There's a limit to how good any standard issue infantry rifle's really going to be-- there's degrees of performance, but in the end the training matters more than the weapon most of the time.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:15 pm

Fuck, it's back.
Unreachable.

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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:16 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Something that isn't chicom shit.

Better than Nirvashi rubbish, tbf.



Husseinarti wrote:M2 Carbine

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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:18 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
FAl Is a hell of a lot more pretty than the M16 for one thing. As I said before Eugene Stoner must have had a really bad taste in women because that thing is ugly as all hell. A burnt turd that was made into the shape of a gun is what it looks like too me. The best score you are ever going to get out of my is a 3/10, and that is being generous. Heck The AK is a prettier gun, and soviet weapons are known for not being that flattering, I give the AK a soft 4/10, or a hard 5/10. That banana magazine and barrel sell it for me honestly.

Both are inferior.

FAL = FAiL

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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:18 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:One can easily argue that aesthetics are the only thing that matters in games like NS.



What'd make the better PDW, a QCW05 or QBZ95B?

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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:19 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:What'd make the better PDW, a QCW05 or QBZ95B?


M4A1
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