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Postby Nachmere » Sat Feb 13, 2016 3:21 am

Allanea wrote:Hey guys!

I've uploaded some photos I've made at the Batey Haosef Small Arms Museum, so that might interest you.


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Postby Palmyrion » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:55 am

Allanea wrote:
Palmyrion wrote:IDT do you think that there will be a limit on as how small a bullet can be as we go smaller because of the microcaliber revolution?


There is no microcaliber revolution.

There are 2-3 small arms that kind of qualify, which have seen limited use with special forces.

And what are they?
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Postby Khornatenreich » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:00 am

Palmyrion wrote:
Allanea wrote:
There is no microcaliber revolution.

There are 2-3 small arms that kind of qualify, which have seen limited use with special forces.

And what are they?



The IDF has suppressed 10/22s for "reasons", and the Krauts use that hilarious 4mm PDW cartridge. Plus, India has a snubby 5.56 PDW of sorts.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:11 am

Allanea wrote:Hey guys!

I've uploaded some photos I've made at the Batey Haosef Small Arms Museum, so that might interest you.


They have like, every gun ever made. Show /r/guns
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:28 am

Puzikas wrote:
wikipedia wrote:Mehmed II, the conqueror of Constantinople, returned to Constantinople after being sickened by the sight of 20,000 impaled corpses outside Vlad's capital of Târgoviște


Mehmed was a p cool commander and had a track of some pretty heinous stuff; but that said the translations for these things can be shotty and pretty exaggerated. The sight of 20,000 corpses would have been a significantly large city, probably a pretty significant percentile of Târgoviște, if not ALL of it, given its historic population growth/declines. By my estimate that would be 1 in 25 of all of Wallachias population.

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Postby Nachmere » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:37 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Allanea wrote:Hey guys!

I've uploaded some photos I've made at the Batey Haosef Small Arms Museum, so that might interest you.


They have like, every gun ever made. Show /r/guns


Their curator is a nice guy. Or their ex curator, he might be dead he was 92 last we spoke.

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Postby Nachmere » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:38 am

Reasons are dogs and demonstrators with Molotov cocktails.
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Postby Puzikas » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:32 am

Palmyrion wrote:So...what is it then? The invasion of the 6-7mm caliber mafia?

Though, I do believe that there is a limit as to how small a microcal bullet can be before it's a shitty bullet.


There is a point where Microcalibers become ineffective. It's the second they become microcalibers. The problem is you're defining microcalibers wrong.

5mm range is not a Micro. That would be Small Caliber range and are typically SCHVs. Microcalibers fend to be less than 5mm dia; 4.6x30mm H&K or 4.5x26mm MKR, for example.

If you wanted you could extend the definition to abnormally small diameter pistol calibers that try to act as an intermediary between a pistol round and a SCHV rifle roubd as well, in which case you get things like .22TCM, 5.7mmFN, 5.45x18mm PM, 5.8x21mm DAP92, and so on.

Nachmere wrote:Reasons are dogs and demonstrators with Molotov cocktails.


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Postby EsToVnIa » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:03 am

Palmyrion wrote:I guess I might want to search for a titanium-zirconium-beryllium-molybdenum alloy, if I can find one.

The question of NATO greetips using mild or hardened steel: it's also my question, and even then what specific grade of steel are they using, ex. 2800 Maraging?

I'm not NATO, but I use greentips with hardened steel U12A, similar to 5.45 7N22.

Meanwhile I am thinking of nanocrystalline steel greentip ammo right now. Nanocrystalline steel penetrators Y/N?


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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:16 am

Puzikas wrote:If you wanted you could extend the definition to abnormally small diameter pistol calibers that try to act as an intermediary between a pistol round and a SCHV rifle roubd as well, in which case you get things like .22TCM, 5.7mmFN, 5.45x18mm PM, 5.8x21mm DAP92, and so on.

Yeah but the problem there is that 5.7mmFN is actually viable, unlike pmuch all of its ilk.

The best pistol cartridge, some might say.

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Postby Nachmere » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:02 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Puzikas wrote:If you wanted you could extend the definition to abnormally small diameter pistol calibers that try to act as an intermediary between a pistol round and a SCHV rifle roubd as well, in which case you get things like .22TCM, 5.7mmFN, 5.45x18mm PM, 5.8x21mm DAP92, and so on.

Yeah but the problem there is that 5.7mmFN is actually viable, unlike pmuch all of its ilk.

The best pistol cartridge, some might say.

The wave of the future, coming to elbow drop your entire nation.


We need alot more people to shoot other people with
5.7mm pistols b4 we can say anything of the sort. Remember when 10mm and .40SW were the best pistol cartridges?

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:20 pm

10mm is still the second best cartridge in the world what are you talking about.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:24 pm

.500 frod is clearly the first best
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Postby Allanea » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:31 pm

Palmyrion wrote:
Allanea wrote:
There is no microcaliber revolution.

There are 2-3 small arms that kind of qualify, which have seen limited use with special forces.

And what are they?



MP7 has seen some use.

But again, as everyone said, generally microcalibers are an ineffective, silly fad.
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Postby Laritaia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:31 pm

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Postby Khornatenreich » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:46 pm

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Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Ethnic & Cultural Integrity against the southern hordes for future generations!
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Postby Nachmere » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:15 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:10mm is still the second best cartridge in the world what are you talking about.


Is this a serious discussion?

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Postby Immoren » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:23 pm

Nachmere wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:10mm is still the second best cartridge in the world what are you talking about.


Is this a serious discussion?


This is still NationStates, is it not?
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:24 pm

Are we not discussing firearms in a discussion thread about infantry?
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:25 pm

Oh my god Ford and I were right the whole time.

Swords for everyone!
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:27 pm

whut
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:32 pm

Back me up you slut.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:39 pm

On what nigga
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:42 pm

We should issue swords in place of microcalibers.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:44 pm

Implying microcalibers have a place
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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