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Eisarn-Ara
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:41 am

Puzikas wrote:Probably a Svenska K with a funny muzzle device/suppressor, casket magazine and some various other changes.



Baller.

Honestly, I've always wanted to combine the Swedish K with the Madsen M45 (Madsen M45 action, Swedish K body/frame, ect).
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Postby Fordorsia » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:51 am

Arkandros wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Would it be acceptable to have the same thickness all over the cartridge? If so it's 1.5mm

you'd have to ask someone else that question. My familiarity with large-caliber cases is effectively nil. I'll do a couple calculations and get back to you though.


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Postby Sediczja » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:54 am

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I'm not even an anarchist but whatever
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Anarcho-Saxony wrote:The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened

Carcelea wrote:WHEN IT WILL STOPS?????

Saiwania wrote:Instead of adjusting my world view to fit more closely with facts, I prefer to try to force the facts into my world view. I've come to my conclusion: that race mixing is bad, therefore I have to do my best to minimize what contradicts that and maximize what supports it. I desperately want the Bible's scriptures to say that God forbids interracial marriage.

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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:55 am

Sediczja wrote:More WIP.


Much fascist, many dead commies, such brrrrrrrt.
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

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Arkandros
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Postby Arkandros » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:33 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Arkandros wrote:you'd have to ask someone else that question. My familiarity with large-caliber cases is effectively nil. I'll do a couple calculations and get back to you though.


okey smokey

So I cobbled together a functional spreadsheet to calculate it (so I can be lazy later), And your total volume with 1.5mm case thickness is 200,659.93mm^3, or 200.66cm^3.*
I also calculated volumes for different volumetric efficiencies, so here ya go.
95%= 206.89cm^3
90%= 196.00cm^3
85%= 185.11cm^3
80%= 174.22cm^3
*my last calculation was incorrect- I subtracted case thickness from the radius as opposed to diameter.
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Postby Transvaal Vrystaat » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:39 am

Gallia- wrote:
Puzikas wrote:I have no tubeguns. Should probably work on that


all sterling army

Sterling-based GPMG when.
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Postby Sediczja » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:46 am

Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
all sterling army

Sterling-based GPMG when.

give this belt feed
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Saiwania wrote:Instead of adjusting my world view to fit more closely with facts, I prefer to try to force the facts into my world view. I've come to my conclusion: that race mixing is bad, therefore I have to do my best to minimize what contradicts that and maximize what supports it. I desperately want the Bible's scriptures to say that God forbids interracial marriage.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:53 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:I present to you the 6x42mm SIC. It's a lightweight SCHV round that, while not entirely capable of replacing the 7.62x51mm, comes so close in most regards that you could conceivably use it for most purposes, supplemented with platoon level MMGs.

Many thanks to New Vihenia for the spreadsheet I used to calculate the perforation limits.

I was excited when I saw 58k PSI. Then I saw the G7 .2 BC and vomited everywhere.
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Postby Sediczja » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:18 am

More WiP, think I'm almost done.

Debating a variant with a snail-drum type magazine.
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Anarcho-Saxony wrote:The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened

Carcelea wrote:WHEN IT WILL STOPS?????

Saiwania wrote:Instead of adjusting my world view to fit more closely with facts, I prefer to try to force the facts into my world view. I've come to my conclusion: that race mixing is bad, therefore I have to do my best to minimize what contradicts that and maximize what supports it. I desperately want the Bible's scriptures to say that God forbids interracial marriage.

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:19 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:I present to you the 6x42mm SIC. It's a lightweight SCHV round that, while not entirely capable of replacing the 7.62x51mm, comes so close in most regards that you could conceivably use it for most purposes, supplemented with platoon level MMGs.

Many thanks to New Vihenia for the spreadsheet I used to calculate the perforation limits.

I was excited when I saw 58k PSI. Then I saw the G7 .2 BC and vomited everywhere.


You're just jelly that my round is actually practical :p .
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:32 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:I was excited when I saw 58k PSI. Then I saw the G7 .2 BC and vomited everywhere.


You're just jelly that my round is actually practical :p .

the projectile exiting the muzzle laterally and wiping out the CO in a blue on blue is hardly pracitcal
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:37 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
You're just jelly that my round is actually practical :p .

the projectile exiting the muzzle laterally and wiping out the CO in a blue on blue is hardly pracitcal


It's not a flaw, it's a feature!
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Puzikas wrote:This is beyond condom on toes. This is full on Bra-on-balls.


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Postby Sediczja » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:51 am

heute jetzt mit trommelmagazin

Gonna upload them both as one unless anyone has any last suggestions?
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A holy place can never exist without enemies.
I'm not even an anarchist but whatever
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Anarcho-Saxony wrote:The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened

Carcelea wrote:WHEN IT WILL STOPS?????

Saiwania wrote:Instead of adjusting my world view to fit more closely with facts, I prefer to try to force the facts into my world view. I've come to my conclusion: that race mixing is bad, therefore I have to do my best to minimize what contradicts that and maximize what supports it. I desperately want the Bible's scriptures to say that God forbids interracial marriage.

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Postby Purpelia » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:52 am

Sediczja wrote:heute jetzt mit trommelmagazin

Gonna upload them both as one unless anyone has any last suggestions?

Do a belt fed version.
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Postby Sediczja » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:23 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Sediczja wrote:heute jetzt mit trommelmagazin

Gonna upload them both as one unless anyone has any last suggestions?

Do a belt fed version.
Mmmmaybe.

Also I lied, drum didn't look right to me so I took the easy route and got rid of it. Finished version.
A holy place can never exist without enemies.
I'm not even an anarchist but whatever
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Anarcho-Saxony wrote:The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened

Carcelea wrote:WHEN IT WILL STOPS?????

Saiwania wrote:Instead of adjusting my world view to fit more closely with facts, I prefer to try to force the facts into my world view. I've come to my conclusion: that race mixing is bad, therefore I have to do my best to minimize what contradicts that and maximize what supports it. I desperately want the Bible's scriptures to say that God forbids interracial marriage.

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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:24 pm

Sediczja wrote:heute jetzt mit trommelmagazin

Gonna upload them both as one unless anyone has any last suggestions?



Hot diggity damn! That thing looks great!

Maybe make a Vladas style conversion of it for later on?

(The Vladas is basically a sideways MP18/MP28)

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Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

Blacksmith/Metallurgist btw(Mostly Blades) & Academic Reconstructionist Heathen of the Continental Variety, Legitimate Sneering Western Imperialist, Western Classicalist

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Postby Themiclesia » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:25 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:-snip-

What's the bottom protrusion for?
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Postby New Visegrad » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:28 pm

Themiclesia wrote:
Eisarn-Ara wrote:-snip-

What's the bottom protrusion for?

It appears to be a magazine.
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Postby Sediczja » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:30 pm

Korva wrote:Make an atompunk laser version
...I might Star Wars-ify it now, to be honest.

Eisarn-Ara wrote:Hot diggity damn! That thing looks great!

Maybe make a Vladas style conversion of it for later on?

(The Vladas is basically a sideways MP18/MP28)
Cheers. I might do that, too.
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I'm not even an anarchist but whatever
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Anarcho-Saxony wrote:The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened

Carcelea wrote:WHEN IT WILL STOPS?????

Saiwania wrote:Instead of adjusting my world view to fit more closely with facts, I prefer to try to force the facts into my world view. I've come to my conclusion: that race mixing is bad, therefore I have to do my best to minimize what contradicts that and maximize what supports it. I desperately want the Bible's scriptures to say that God forbids interracial marriage.

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Postby Themiclesia » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:31 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?

Not really. You see, my nation abolished chattel slavery about 2,000 years ago.
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Sample military factbook
Nations:
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Camia
Antari
>>>Member of Septentrion, Atlas, Alithea, Tyran<<<
Left-of-centre, multiple home countries and native languages, socially and fiscally liberal; he/him/his
Pro: diversity, choice, liberty, democracy, equality | Anti: racism, sexism, nationalism, dictatorship, war
News | Court of Appeal overturns Sgt. Ker conviction for larceny in quartermaster's pantry | TNS Hat runs aground in foreign harbour, hull unhurt | House of Lords passes Stamp Collection Act, counterfeiting used stamps now a crime | New bicycle lanes under the elevated railways | Demonstration against rights abuses in Menghe in Crystal Park, MoD: parade to be postponed for civic activity

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Postby Thomaion » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:43 pm

How would I go about flinging a matzoukion from an atlatl-like device?
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:56 pm

Thomaion wrote:How would I go about flinging a matzoukion from an atlatl-like device?


You wouldn't. Maces aren't throwing weapons.
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I liked the prostitute - never quote me on that.


Puzikas wrote:This is beyond condom on toes. This is full on Bra-on-balls.


Puzikas wrote:Im not cheep-You can quote me on that.


Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:57 pm

Thomaion wrote:How would I go about flinging a matzoukion from an atlatl-like device?

How about no, and more no; what a waste of a good mace. Just have em' on shortened pole-arm hafts, and actually use them in a mildly reliable manner. Hell, dismounted Cataphracts armed with the things and a Skoutatoi's shield = many a re-dead zed-head if they reliably hold-fast to the steely discipline that Byzantine professional/standing troops were known for.

(dismounted because of the whole, giant meat-wagon with hooves that is a horse, even with armor, it's very counter productive)



Guys, I accidentally'd a a carbine, calling it the Gd1947.
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Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

Blacksmith/Metallurgist btw(Mostly Blades) & Academic Reconstructionist Heathen of the Continental Variety, Legitimate Sneering Western Imperialist, Western Classicalist

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