Infantry Discussion Thread, Mk. 8 Mod. 0 [No Kaiju]

[Northern Remuneration]

Also drew up some rangers. These guys know the land, work for the federal government, and were taught how to use daddy's moosegun effectively.

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That is really good and cool.

Thanks bruv. Note the animal hide gaiters.

[Thomaion]

That is really good and cool.

Thanks bruv. Note the animal hide gaiters.

You should totally make crocodile suits.

[Northern Remuneration]

Thanks bruv. Note the animal hide gaiters.

You should totally make crocodile suits.

Please tell me that's exactly what it sounds like.

[Thomaion]

You should totally make crocodile suits.

Please tell me that's exactly what it sounds like.

Suits of dead crocodiles so you can disguise yourself and shoot people as a crocodile.

[Northern Remuneration]

Please tell me that's exactly what it sounds like.

Suits of dead crocodiles so you can disguise yourself and shoot people as a crocodile.

I'm pretty sure we're so far away from the natural range of crocodiles that a crocodile would attract as much attention as a ranger.

[Eisarn-Ara]

Suits of dead crocodiles so you can disguise yourself and shoot people as a crocodile.

I'm pretty sure we're so far away from the natural range of crocodiles that a crocodile would attract as much attention as a ranger.

Elk, Boar & Bear suits, made out hides and using elements from an old-school original article ghillie suit. Could be good for a pathfinder unit in massively overgrown areas (of which, judging by your setting, it is safe to assume those are everywhere).

[Thomaion]

Suits of dead crocodiles so you can disguise yourself and shoot people as a crocodile.

I'm pretty sure we're so far away from the natural range of crocodiles that a crocodile would attract as much attention as a ranger.

Crocodile Deordorizer. I don't think that's a word, but you get the idea.

[Northern Remuneration]

I'm pretty sure we're so far away from the natural range of crocodiles that a crocodile would attract as much attention as a ranger.

Elk, Boar & Bear suits, made out hides and using elements from an old-school original article ghillie suit. Could be good for a pathfinder unit in massively overgrown areas (of which, judging by your setting, it is safe to assume those are everywhere).

I kinda dig that. I'll draw that at some point.

[Aqizithiuda]

Ah, the traction trebuchet.

Honestly, light ballistae and staff slings are the only practical artillery for a field army, but traction trebuchets could be used from fortifications to harass the enemy. Small hamlets and villages are better off retreating into the nearest town or fortress, though. They won't have the skilled manpower or the fortifications necessary to defeat any sizable number of zombies.

but muh holy cities

Cities and towns you defend. Villages and hamlets you write off as collateral damage.

[Thomaion]

but muh holy cities

Cities and towns you defend. Villages and hamlets you write off as collateral damage.

but what if it's a holy village

[Purpelia]

Cities and towns you defend. Villages and hamlets you write off as collateral damage.

but what if it's a holy village

Than you fail at economy and will lose the war. You should have used the how ever many centuries you had control over that village to make it into a pilgrimage site that grows into a city.

[Thomaion]

but what if it's a holy village

Than you fail at economy and will lose the war. You should have used the how ever many centuries you had control over that village to make it into a pilgrimage site that grows into a city.

It's so holy that it's off limits to peasants and Bokrug-Jesus will eat you if you enter or something similar is what I was intending.

[Purpelia]

Than you fail at economy and will lose the war. You should have used the how ever many centuries you had control over that village to make it into a pilgrimage site that grows into a city.

It's so holy that it's off limits to peasants and Bokrug-Jesus will eat you if you enter or something similar is what I was intending.

So? That don't mean you can't have it as a site of holy pilgrimage. You just can't let the pilgrims get close. Seriously, just how unenterprising are your people?

[Sevvania]

Page 41 demands MP41:

I like the MP41, but one thing that seems kind of odd is how it went from a pistol grip to more traditional rifle stock, as opposed to the other way around. Does anyone know the reasoning for this?

[Eisarn-Ara]

Page 41 demands MP41:
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I like the MP41, but one thing that seems kind of odd is how it went from a pistol grip to more traditional rifle stock, as opposed to the other way around. Does anyone know the reasoning for this?

If only they gave it a bayonet lug, that would just complete the MP41's Aesthetic so nicely.

[Sediczja]

Page 41 demands MP41:
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I like the MP41, but one thing that seems kind of odd is how it went from a pistol grip to more traditional rifle stock, as opposed to the other way around. Does anyone know the reasoning for this?

My guess is shortage of/inability to produce Bakelite during the later stages of the war. Probably wrong.

[Fordorsia]

Volume is easy to calculate though! it's two truncated cones and one cylinder, so (using your case and assuming uniform 1mm case thickness) the volume is equivalent to (((1/3)(pi)((19^2)+(19*17)+(17^2))171)+((1/3)(pi)((17^2)+(17*15)+(15^2)12)+((pi)(15^2)16)), for a grand total of ~195,210mm^3 H2O.
Edit: Give me the actual case thickness at the base, shoulder, and neck and I can calculate your actual case capacity, because it obviously isn't 1mm thick everywhere.
Edit2: does anyone actually have a list of standard ratios for case thickness of cartridges? If so, I'd love to see it.

Would it be acceptable to have the same thickness all over the cartridge? If so it's 1.5mm

[Arkandros]

Volume is easy to calculate though! it's two truncated cones and one cylinder, so (using your case and assuming uniform 1mm case thickness) the volume is equivalent to (((1/3)(pi)((19^2)+(19*17)+(17^2))171)+((1/3)(pi)((17^2)+(17*15)+(15^2)12)+((pi)(15^2)16)), for a grand total of ~195,210mm^3 H2O.
Edit: Give me the actual case thickness at the base, shoulder, and neck and I can calculate your actual case capacity, because it obviously isn't 1mm thick everywhere.
Edit2: does anyone actually have a list of standard ratios for case thickness of cartridges? If so, I'd love to see it.

Would it be acceptable to have the same thickness all over the cartridge? If so it's 1.5mm

you'd have to ask someone else that question. My familiarity with large-caliber cases is effectively nil. I'll do a couple calculations and get back to you though.

[Sediczja]

Rough WiP of an Orita M41/MP-41/MP 28 mashup. Any thoughts so far? Thinking it will be Sediczja's late-20s-to-early-50s-era SMG.

[Sevvania]

Rough WiP of an Orita M41/MP-41/MP 28 mashup. Any thoughts so far? Thinking it will be Sediczja's late-20s-to-early-50s-era SMG.

Tube guns with deer hunter stocks make the best smigs.

[Eisarn-Ara]

Rough WiP of an Orita M41/MP-41/MP 28 mashup. Any thoughts so far? Thinking it will be Sediczja's late-20s-to-early-50s-era SMG.

Fuckyeah, tubeguns stronk.

[Puzikas]

I have no tubeguns. Should probably work on that

[EsToVnIa]

I present to you the 6x42mm SIC. It's a lightweight SCHV round that, while not entirely capable of replacing the 7.62x51mm, comes so close in most regards that you could conceivably use it for most purposes, supplemented with platoon level MMGs.

Many thanks to New Vihenia for the spreadsheet I used to calculate the perforation limits.

mmmmm the sperg

[Eisarn-Ara]

I have no tubeguns. Should probably work on that

7.62 Tokarev burp-gun with a bigass casket magazine of the suomi variety?

[Puzikas]

Probably a Svenska K with a funny muzzle device/suppressor, casket magazine and some various other changes.