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New Visegrad
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Postby New Visegrad » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:45 am

IMO a tight-grouping shotgun is the best anti-zombie weapon without resorting to explosives. You want to be ripping off or shredding limbs and destroying muscles so they can't keep chasing you, and a shotgun will do that better than a rifle. You don't have to worry about range too much unless your zombies are Special Zombies that can use ranged weapons of their own.

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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:48 am

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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:49 am

Estovnia wrote:take this all to the milrealism thread


So is this all you do now?

Korva wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Well the cartridge could originally be from a small field gun or something. Then when tanks come around it was given an AP projectile and put in a lighter and smaller weapon. I don't think it's too bad that Fordorsia's first AT rifle is essentially a small field gun.

Is this compensation for being unable to kill tanks with the AT rifle in RO2?


shh


Actually if someone could help with the bullets, that would be great. I dun know how to into them.
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Postby New Visegrad » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:51 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:

Nix?

It looks pretty torchlike to me tbh. I don't think there's anything you can do, unless you want to add a shallow rim on the front around the light itself, but that's optional and I think it would look worse.
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Postby Transvaal Vrystaat » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:16 am

Fordorsia wrote:Well the cartridge could originally be from a small field gun or something. Then when tanks come around it was given an AP projectile and put in a lighter and smaller weapon. I don't think it's too bad that Fordorsia's first AT rifle is essentially a small field gun.

On the other hand, field guns and shoulder-fired weapons generally don't mix. 30x200mm would probably have too much recoil force to be practically fired from the shoulder, even with all manner of compensators and recoil springs.

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Calm down there, Gear 1.
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:22 am

Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Well the cartridge could originally be from a small field gun or something. Then when tanks come around it was given an AP projectile and put in a lighter and smaller weapon. I don't think it's too bad that Fordorsia's first AT rifle is essentially a small field gun.

On the other hand, field guns and shoulder-fired weapons generally don't mix. 30x200mm would probably have too much recoil force to be practically fired from the shoulder, even with all manner of compensators and recoil springs.


cyka blat

Well like I said I don't into ballistics and all that stuff, so the cartridge I drew up might not even be plausible as one for a field gun. I'll let someone like Aqiz make the call on that one.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:24 am

Vancon wrote:Zombies a shit.

The day when there are parachuting commando vampires, then I'll be worried.

Speaking of which, what kind of weapons would ParaVampires use? What ones would zombitches use?


i issue same weapons to my zombies and vampires as i do to everyone else.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:26 am

Korva wrote:Field gun discussion really belongs in the artillery and mortar thread.


Mortars are infantry weapons and thus belong to infantry thead.
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Postby Vancon » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:27 am

Korva wrote:Field gun discussion really belongs in the artillery and mortar thread.

We could do with one, but then there'd be no more reason for anything else ;_;
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:27 am

Korva wrote:Field gun discussion really belongs in the artillery and mortar thread.


It's to do with my rifle so it's fine.
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Postby EsToVnIa » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:33 am

Immoren wrote:
Korva wrote:Field gun discussion really belongs in the artillery and mortar thread.


Mortars are infantry weapons and thus belong to infantry thead.


mortars are artillery weapons, thus they go to the artillery and mortar thread
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Postby Transvaal Vrystaat » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:38 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:On the other hand, field guns and shoulder-fired weapons generally don't mix. 30x200mm would probably have too much recoil force to be practically fired from the shoulder, even with all manner of compensators and recoil springs.


cyka blat

Well like I said I don't into ballistics and all that stuff, so the cartridge I drew up might not even be plausible as one for a field gun. I'll let someone like Aqiz make the call on that one.

30mm did seem a bit on the small end for a field gun, tbh.
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:41 am

Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
cyka blat

Well like I said I don't into ballistics and all that stuff, so the cartridge I drew up might not even be plausible as one for a field gun. I'll let someone like Aqiz make the call on that one.

30mm did seem a bit on the small end for a field gun, tbh.


I'll just have it as its own thing then. It would be plausible to go for a large cartridge and casing over the more common small but super fast rifle bullets, right? I mean it could cause a lot more damage to treads and shit, if it couldn't go straight through whatever armour it hit.
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Postby Transvaal Vrystaat » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:45 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:30mm did seem a bit on the small end for a field gun, tbh.


I'll just have it as its own thing then. It would be plausible to go for a large cartridge and casing over the more common small but super fast rifle bullets, right? I mean it could cause a lot more damage to treads and shit, if it couldn't go straight through whatever armour it hit.

How large are we talking here, or are you still set on your 30mm?

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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:57 am

Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:If zombies are close enough to tear your bayonet off, you should probably be getting the fuck out of there instead of attempting to cave in a few skulls.



I'm almost finished with an "anti-hooliganism device" in keeping with a recently approaching seasonal festival that seems to be a "Hurr durr gonna do stupid shit" night for ne'er-do-wells and other undesirables. This actually pertains to the topic, because I'll be damned if a mildly Polynesian/Haida inspired war club made out of two-year seasoned hickory wouldn't split a skull. Just fire bake the edge, wrap some leather or grip-tape round' your whittled or sanded down handle and voila, instant headbuster.


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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:00 am

New Visegrad wrote:It looks pretty torchlike to me tbh. I don't think there's anything you can do, unless you want to add a shallow rim on the front around the light itself, but that's optional and I think it would look worse.

Works for me then.



Police carbine done. Any other variants that I should try?
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Korva » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:01 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:It looks pretty torchlike to me tbh. I don't think there's anything you can do, unless you want to add a shallow rim on the front around the light itself, but that's optional and I think it would look worse.

Works for me then.



Police carbine done. Any other variants that I should try?

firing port weapon

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Postby Vancon » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:02 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:It looks pretty torchlike to me tbh. I don't think there's anything you can do, unless you want to add a shallow rim on the front around the light itself, but that's optional and I think it would look worse.

Works for me then.



Police carbine done. Any other variants that I should try?

Have it fold into as small of a space as possible.
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:06 am

Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
I'll just have it as its own thing then. It would be plausible to go for a large cartridge and casing over the more common small but super fast rifle bullets, right? I mean it could cause a lot more damage to treads and shit, if it couldn't go straight through whatever armour it hit.

How large are we talking here, or are you still set on your 30mm?


30x200mm

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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:12 am

Korva wrote:firing port weapon

Remove integral suppressor
Add six-inch barrel extension
???
FPW



Vancon wrote:Have it fold into as small of a space as possible.

Give me one example of a folding bullpup rifle.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Vancon » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:14 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Korva wrote:firing port weapon

Remove integral suppressor
Add six-inch barrel extension
???
FPW



Vancon wrote:Have it fold into as small of a space as possible.

Give me one example of a folding bullpup rifle.

Don't have one. Herein is your challenge. Become the first.
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Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:19 am

Estovnia wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Mortars are infantry weapons and thus belong to infantry thead.


mortars are artillery weapons, thus they go to the artillery and mortar thread


If mortars are artillery, why mortarmen then wear their training/trade badge/insignia over infantry green, rather than artillery red?
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Postby Puzikas » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:20 am

New Visegrad wrote:IMO a tight-grouping shotgun is the best anti-zombie weapon without resorting to explosives. You want to be ripping off or shredding limbs and destroying muscles so they can't keep chasing you, and a shotgun will do that better than a rifle. You don't have to worry about range too much unless your zombies are Special Zombies that can use ranged weapons of their own.

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Physiology of the undead was a legit topic of conversation at work a few times.

Conclusion was neural synapses need to be severed; spine is a good pick.

Also a shotguns can't sever limbs under normal conditions generally.
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:22 am

Puz you're smart.

What do you think of my rifle and/or the cartridge?
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

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Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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