NATION

PASSWORD

Infantry Discussion Thread, Mk. 8 Mod. 0 [No Kaiju]

A place to put national factbooks, embassy exchanges, and other information regarding the nations of the world. [In character]

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Transvaal Vrystaat
Diplomat
 
Posts: 534
Founded: Sep 22, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Transvaal Vrystaat » Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:32 am

The Republic of Suomus wrote:
Eisarn-Ara wrote:For those railgun nerds that happen to frequent this thread.

On the subject of railguns, would it be possible to design a railMG with an AI and a transporter system that returns rounds that miss back into the magazine? Obv not going to be MT.

Super Good Advice a shit, Thunderlord master race.
Literal Space Boers in the Asteroid Belt. Factbook tbd.

User avatar
Imperializt Russia
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 54847
Founded: Jun 03, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:42 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Stupid question! Why are there no triple-stack magazines? I can find dozens of casket magazines, and even more dual stacks, but not one tri-stack.

There was one for that triple-barrel Russian rifle, but it might have been three dual-stacks tbh.
Three is just difficult to balance. Remember that a quad-stack is really just two twin-stacks stuck together and the problem is making the pairs feed into one single twin-stack.
Warning! This poster has:
PT puppet of the People's Republic of Samozaryadnyastan.

Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Also,
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

User avatar
The Archangel Conglomerate
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6469
Founded: Dec 10, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:01 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:There was one for that triple-barrel Russian rifle, but it might have been three dual-stacks tbh.
Three is just difficult to balance. Remember that a quad-stack is really just two twin-stacks stuck together and the problem is making the pairs feed into one single twin-stack.

Maybe I'm not giving it enough thought, but it seems like it'd be fairly simple to me. You'd have your magazine body, with the three cartridge columns, a pair of internal angled surfaces to force the three columns down to two, and a telescoping follower. The only potential issue I see is with the columns not being depleated at an even rate.
(\/)(•,,,,•)(\/)
Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

User avatar
Purpelia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34249
Founded: Oct 19, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Purpelia » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:28 am

Why not just use a drum?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

User avatar
Eisarn-Ara
Minister
 
Posts: 2383
Founded: Oct 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:30 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:What's wrong with the current rear sight?

And knife bayonet ftw.



The current rear-sight seems rather lackluster in comparison to the fact that the thing has an aiming bead lodged into it for the front-sight (shallow-scalloped cut front blade for the forward sight on model 2). And by the look of things, is either just a scaled up and glorified pistol sight, or can only be adjusted with a screwdriver.

The only reason why I suggested the FG42/MAS36/Rexim-Favor bayonet was due to the very alter40s vibe shown here:

Image

Otherwise, well, hells bells, alright; I guess I'll just finish the bayonet for use with my Gd41 service rifle (time to make a bulky muzzle brake for this thing eh?)
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

Blacksmith/Metallurgist btw(Mostly Blades) & Academic Reconstructionist Heathen of the Continental Variety, Legitimate Sneering Western Imperialist, Western Classicalist

User avatar
Imperializt Russia
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 54847
Founded: Jun 03, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:31 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:There was one for that triple-barrel Russian rifle, but it might have been three dual-stacks tbh.
Three is just difficult to balance. Remember that a quad-stack is really just two twin-stacks stuck together and the problem is making the pairs feed into one single twin-stack.

Maybe I'm not giving it enough thought, but it seems like it'd be fairly simple to me. You'd have your magazine body, with the three cartridge columns, a pair of internal angled surfaces to force the three columns down to two, and a telescoping follower. The only potential issue I see is with the columns not being depleated at an even rate.

Way too complex for limited gain. The quad-stack magazine offers the capacity of two magazines in the space of two magazines for the weight of two magazines with not substantially worse reliability.
Warning! This poster has:
PT puppet of the People's Republic of Samozaryadnyastan.

Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Also,
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.

User avatar
Transvaal Vrystaat
Diplomat
 
Posts: 534
Founded: Sep 22, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Transvaal Vrystaat » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:40 am

Purpelia wrote:Why not just use a drum?

Because the only things drums are good for is jamming.
Literal Space Boers in the Asteroid Belt. Factbook tbd.

User avatar
Sevvania
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6893
Founded: Nov 12, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Sevvania » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:41 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Stupid question! Why are there no triple-stack magazines? I can find dozens of casket magazines, and even more dual stacks, but not one tri-stack.

There was one for that triple-barrel Russian rifle, but it might have been three dual-stacks tbh.
Three is just difficult to balance. Remember that a quad-stack is really just two twin-stacks stuck together and the problem is making the pairs feed into one single twin-stack.

Image
Korobov TKB-059 stronk
"Humble thyself and hold thy tongue."

Current Era: 1945
NationStates Stat Card - Sevvania
OFFICIAL FACTBOOK - Sevvania
4/1/13 - Never Forget

User avatar
Purpelia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34249
Founded: Oct 19, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Purpelia » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:41 am

Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Why not just use a drum?

Because the only things drums are good for is jamming.

Nonsense. Drums are, when constructed well perfectly reliable and functional. Certainly when compared to a wonky 3 stack confusing design.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

User avatar
Eisarn-Ara
Minister
 
Posts: 2383
Founded: Oct 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:44 am

Purpelia wrote:Drums are, when constructed well perfectly reliable and functional. Certainly when compared to a wonky 3 stack confusing design.


Image
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

Blacksmith/Metallurgist btw(Mostly Blades) & Academic Reconstructionist Heathen of the Continental Variety, Legitimate Sneering Western Imperialist, Western Classicalist

User avatar
Purpelia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34249
Founded: Oct 19, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Purpelia » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:47 am

You brought a smile to my face. You actually managed to find a 1911 that looks good.
Last edited by Purpelia on Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

User avatar
Transvaal Vrystaat
Diplomat
 
Posts: 534
Founded: Sep 22, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Transvaal Vrystaat » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:49 am

Purpelia wrote:
Transvaal Vrystaat wrote:Because the only things drums are good for is jamming.

Nonsense. Drums are, when constructed well perfectly reliable and functional. Certainly when compared to a wonky 3 stack confusing design.

Which is why quad-stacked magazines are superior.

Eisarn-Ara wrote:(Image)

10/10, would shoot nazis with.
Literal Space Boers in the Asteroid Belt. Factbook tbd.

User avatar
Sevvania
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6893
Founded: Nov 12, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Sevvania » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:51 am

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Drums are, when constructed well perfectly reliable and functional. Certainly when compared to a wonky 3 stack confusing design.


Image

Just needs a Dillinger-style foregrip and compensator. Maybe a stock.
"Humble thyself and hold thy tongue."

Current Era: 1945
NationStates Stat Card - Sevvania
OFFICIAL FACTBOOK - Sevvania
4/1/13 - Never Forget

User avatar
Purpelia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34249
Founded: Oct 19, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Purpelia » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:52 am

Sevvania wrote:Just needs a Dillinger-style foregrip and compensator. Maybe a stock.

Image
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

User avatar
Puzikas
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10941
Founded: Nov 24, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:53 am

Sevvania wrote:I don't post much, but I am always here.
Usually waiting for Puz ;-;

Goodbye.

User avatar
Fordorsia
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 20431
Founded: Oct 04, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Fordorsia » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:58 am

Purpelia wrote:You brought a smile to my face. You actually managed to find a 1911 that looks good.


Why don't you think the 1911 looks good? It's the most pistol-looking pistol.



Keep in mind that when you draw tings like the muzzle and gas block, that some parts are curved in the reference picture because the the angle of the camera. Get them things straight.
Last edited by Fordorsia on Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

User avatar
Purpelia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34249
Founded: Oct 19, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Purpelia » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:02 am

Fordorsia wrote:Why don't you think the 1911 looks good? It's the most pistol-looking pistol.

Dunno. It just looks too generic to me.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

User avatar
The Archangel Conglomerate
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6469
Founded: Dec 10, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:07 am

Purpelia wrote:Why not just use a drum?

Because drums are a bit squibbly when combined with bullpups.



Imperializt Russia wrote:Way too complex for limited gain. The quad-stack magazine offers the capacity of two magazines in the space of two magazines for the weight of two magazines with not substantially worse reliability.

I'll take your word for it then.



Purpelia wrote:Nonsense. Drums are, when constructed well perfectly reliable and functional. Certainly when compared to a wonky 3 stack confusing design.

It wouldn't have been that wonky. Literally this minus the divider and a cartridge stack.
Last edited by The Archangel Conglomerate on Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
(\/)(•,,,,•)(\/)
Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

User avatar
Puzikas
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10941
Founded: Nov 24, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:08 am

Fordorsia wrote:Keep in mind that when you draw tings like the muzzle and gas block, that some parts are curved in the reference picture because the the angle of the camera. Get them things straight.


I intentionally make them that way actually. They are all supposed to be pictorial references in a "series" of firearms.
Sevvania wrote:I don't post much, but I am always here.
Usually waiting for Puz ;-;

Goodbye.

User avatar
Purpelia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 34249
Founded: Oct 19, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Purpelia » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:10 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Why not just use a drum?

Because drums are a bit squibbly when combined with bullpups.

Honestly I'd still prefer to just use two magazines connected together and quickly swap between them when one runs out. Modern rifle magazines already have features designed to let them do that.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

User avatar
The Archangel Conglomerate
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6469
Founded: Dec 10, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:12 am

Puzikas wrote:I intentionally make them that way actually. They are all supposed to be pictorial references in a "series" of firearms.

Dunno why, but it gives me a headache if I look for too long. In any case, the lines on the whole could do with some cleaning up. The pistol grip especially looks like it needs a bit of attention. Too, the lines on the handguard look a tad think.



Purpelia wrote:Honestly I'd still prefer to just use two magazines connected together and quickly swap between them when one runs out. Modern rifle magazines already have features designed to let them do that.

Not a bad idea, actually. Thanks Purp.
Last edited by The Archangel Conglomerate on Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:17 am, edited 2 times in total.
(\/)(•,,,,•)(\/)
Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

User avatar
Ragnarum
Senator
 
Posts: 3889
Founded: Dec 17, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Ragnarum » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:13 am

In terms of a hand held heavy anti-tank weapon - Large and cheap unguided rocket in a tube or some fancy guided thing? Or both in some way or another?
Last edited by Ragnarum on Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
Don't copy and paste anything you see in a sig you fucking normie scrub
I deliberately made the star asymmetrical.
AUF GEHTS KAMERADEN
Here are my factbooks (Lots of WIP)

Ragnarum is not communist or even particularly socialist, just so you know.

User avatar
Transvaal Vrystaat
Diplomat
 
Posts: 534
Founded: Sep 22, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Transvaal Vrystaat » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:17 am

Ragnarum wrote:In terms of a hand held heavy anti-tank weapon - Large and cheap unguided rocket in a tube or some fancy guided thing? Or both in some way or another?

Something along the lines of the FGM-148 Javelin is probably your best bet.
Literal Space Boers in the Asteroid Belt. Factbook tbd.

User avatar
Eisarn-Ara
Minister
 
Posts: 2383
Founded: Oct 02, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:20 am

Sevvania wrote:Just needs a Dillinger-style foregrip and compensator. Maybe a stock.


Personally, I prefer the .38 Super Lebman Conversions.

Image
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

Blacksmith/Metallurgist btw(Mostly Blades) & Academic Reconstructionist Heathen of the Continental Variety, Legitimate Sneering Western Imperialist, Western Classicalist

User avatar
Puzikas
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10941
Founded: Nov 24, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:22 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Dunno why, but it gives me a headache if I look for too long. In any case, the lines on the whole could do with some cleaning up. The pistol grip especially looks like it needs a bit of attention. Too, the lines on the handguard look a tad think.


In progress.

Touchpads are hard to draw with :<
Sevvania wrote:I don't post much, but I am always here.
Usually waiting for Puz ;-;

Goodbye.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Factbooks and National Information

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Kuuj, Netouere

Advertisement

Remove ads