NS Military Realism Consultancy Thread Mark IX Spitfire

[Crookfur]

So... bullet counters. You see these a lot in video games, but would they be useful/convenient in real life?

Depenmds on what you mean by round counters:

if you mean something that just shows you how many rounds are left in a mag then as others have said they might be handy but aren't really needed and they do have limitations (unless you start sticking smart chips on your mags so the mag itself knows how many roudns are in the mag how does the counter know if you have used a partially filled mag or even a different caapcity mag?

However a round counter as in a system that counts how many rounds total a weapon has fired at when/how quickly is seen as being a very desirable thing for big militaries as it makes it a lot easier to track wear and tear and schedule maintenance/part repalcments. The US army has been throwing a fair wad of cash at this sort of system.

[Altaiire]

So... bullet counters. You see these a lot in video games, but would they be useful/convenient in real life?

Depenmds on what you mean by round counters:

if you mean something that just shows you how many rounds are left in a mag then as others have said they might be handy but aren't really needed and they do have limitations (unless you start sticking smart chips on your mags so the mag itself knows how many roudns are in the mag how does the counter know if you have used a partially filled mag or even a different caapcity mag?

However a round counter as in a system that counts how many rounds total a weapon has fired at when/how quickly is seen as being a very desirable thing for big militaries as it makes it a lot easier to track wear and tear and schedule maintenance/part repalcments. The US army has been throwing a fair wad of cash at this sort of system.

Both, optimally. I am a PMT nation so I probably have a bit more leeway with throwing money on electronic pleasantries than I might have MT wise.

I was thinking maybe a device to measure the spring force in the magazine to determine how many rounds are inside? There'd be metal tabs on the edge of the mag and the magwell so it can be connected to a small computer inside the gun somewhere that keeps track of everything (wireless is also a possibility but I feel like it presents security problems.) For combat use sights would have a colored LED screen with the number of rounds left (maybe even being able to preprogram total remaining rounds as well,) having it change colors, say from blue>yellow>red as your capacity goes down so you can get an idea of your remaining rounds from your peripheral vision without needing to fully take your eyes off your sights. That way if it's a distraction to whoever's using the gun, they can choose to remove it. For maintenance data, a separate touchscreen "sight" could be placed on the rail so you can poke around the data more easily. Or maybe just add a USB port...

[Orussia]

Depenmds on what you mean by round counters:

if you mean something that just shows you how many rounds are left in a mag then as others have said they might be handy but aren't really needed and they do have limitations (unless you start sticking smart chips on your mags so the mag itself knows how many roudns are in the mag how does the counter know if you have used a partially filled mag or even a different caapcity mag?

However a round counter as in a system that counts how many rounds total a weapon has fired at when/how quickly is seen as being a very desirable thing for big militaries as it makes it a lot easier to track wear and tear and schedule maintenance/part repalcments. The US army has been throwing a fair wad of cash at this sort of system.

Both, optimally. I am a PMT nation so I probably have a bit more leeway with throwing money on electronic pleasantries than I might have MT wise.

I was thinking maybe a device to measure the spring force in the magazine to determine how many rounds are inside? There'd be metal tabs on the edge of the mag and the magwell so it can be connected to a small computer inside the gun somewhere that keeps track of everything (wireless is also a possibility but I feel like it presents security problems.) For combat use sights would have a colored LED screen with the number of rounds left (maybe even being able to preprogram total remaining rounds as well,) having it change colors, say from blue>yellow>red as your capacity goes down so you can get an idea of your remaining rounds from your peripheral vision without needing to fully take your eyes off your sights. That way if it's a distraction to whoever's using the gun, they can choose to remove it. For maintenance data, a separate touchscreen "sight" could be placed on the rail so you can poke around the data more easily. Or maybe just add a USB port...

And all this wonderful add-on equipment will be wonderful on your MTBF.

[Crookfur]

Depenmds on what you mean by round counters:

if you mean something that just shows you how many rounds are left in a mag then as others have said they might be handy but aren't really needed and they do have limitations (unless you start sticking smart chips on your mags so the mag itself knows how many roudns are in the mag how does the counter know if you have used a partially filled mag or even a different caapcity mag?

However a round counter as in a system that counts how many rounds total a weapon has fired at when/how quickly is seen as being a very desirable thing for big militaries as it makes it a lot easier to track wear and tear and schedule maintenance/part repalcments. The US army has been throwing a fair wad of cash at this sort of system.

Both, optimally. I am a PMT nation so I probably have a bit more leeway with throwing money on electronic pleasantries than I might have MT wise.

I was thinking maybe a device to measure the spring force in the magazine to determine how many rounds are inside? There'd be metal tabs on the edge of the mag and the magwell so it can be connected to a small computer inside the gun somewhere that keeps track of everything (wireless is also a possibility but I feel like it presents security problems.) For combat use sights would have a colored LED screen with the number of rounds left (maybe even being able to preprogram total remaining rounds as well,) having it change colors, say from blue>yellow>red as your capacity goes down so you can get an idea of your remaining rounds from your peripheral vision without needing to fully take your eyes off your sights. That way if it's a distraction to whoever's using the gun, they can choose to remove it. For maintenance data, a separate touchscreen "sight" could be placed on the rail so you can poke around the data more easily. Or maybe just add a USB port...

Well the US army wanted a USB port IIRC.

No need for a presure sensor just have a small ID chip on the side of the mag that contacts a reader on the inside of the magwell and have the mag itself keep track of what position the follower is in. basiclaly just copy printer cartridges.

[Kingsley Island]

How practically are ricin tainted snipe rounds?


Also are my fact books realistic?

[Allanea]

Ricin tainted sniper rounds are chiefly impractical because there's not a real point - a rifle round is already something like 30-40% likely to lead to death if it hits someone in the torso.

[Orussia]

How practically are ricin tainted snipe rounds?


Also are my fact books realistic?

One of the points of a sniper is to kill with one shot. If your rounds don't kill through immediate trauma, you need to train your snipers to aim for the head or heart.

[North Arkana]

How practically are ricin tainted snipe rounds?


Also are my fact books realistic?

Ricin tainted rounds are war-crime-erific. And pointlessly redundant with needless expense.

[Sediczja]

How practically are ricin tainted snipe rounds?


Also are my fact books realistic?

Not very practical.

Use conventional ammunition and a non-retarded sniper.

[Pharthan]

How practically are ricin tainted snipe rounds?


Also are my fact books realistic?

Possible? Yes.
Practical? No.

Real life isn't CoD; you take a sniper round, you're going down. You may not be dead (read: probably are dead), but you're out of the game.

[Crookfur]

How practically are ricin tainted snipe rounds?


Also are my fact books realistic?

Well they are largely pointless unless by sniper rifle you mean air rifle. A good marksman with a good logn range rifle is pretty much going to hit his target in a lethal spot and if anything, like say body armour, were to stop the round it would stop the ricin too.

[North Arkana]

How practically are ricin tainted snipe rounds?


Also are my fact books realistic?

As for your factbooks... They read more like propaganda pamphlets than information on the weapon.
"Feared worldwide! Deadly power! Long range! High powered rounds!"
"Our troops and weapons are feared and respected!"
Kek, they're more like adequate or equal to most weapons used by other NS nations.
Except that:
-Low rate of fire on the MG is a definite negative for suppression.
-Effective ranges are rather exaggerated for all weapons.

[Kingsley Island]

How practically are ricin tainted snipe rounds?


Also are my fact books realistic?

As for your factbooks... They read more like propaganda pamphlets than information on the weapon.
"Feared worldwide! Deadly power! Long range! High powered rounds!"
"Our troops and weapons are feared and respected!"
Kek, they're more like adequate or equal to most weapons used by other NS nations.
Except that:
-Low rate of fire on the MG is a definite negative for suppression.
-Effective ranges are rather exaggerated for all weapons.

Propaganda is the whole point. We are socialist you know.

Also tbh I think our effective ranges are quite average (according to Wikipedia)


I guess no ricin tainted rounds then

What about a low suppressed calibre umbrella rifle? Then it's like pew pew and then 24 hours later he's dead

[Allanea]

The umbrella gun used to kill Markov was an airgun. It also operate by literally stabbing the victim with the umbrella.

[Spirit of Hope]

As for your factbooks... They read more like propaganda pamphlets than information on the weapon.
"Feared worldwide! Deadly power! Long range! High powered rounds!"
"Our troops and weapons are feared and respected!"
Kek, they're more like adequate or equal to most weapons used by other NS nations.
Except that:
-Low rate of fire on the MG is a definite negative for suppression.
-Effective ranges are rather exaggerated for all weapons.

Propaganda is the whole point. We are socialist you know.

Also tbh I think our effective ranges are quite average (according to Wikipedia)


I guess no ricin tainted rounds then

What about a low suppressed calibre umbrella rifle? Then it's like pew pew and then 24 hours later he's dead

The point of the factbook is generally to give other players a clear concise idea of your nation, so that when they RP with you they know some stuff about you and don't either mess up your nations character or ask 1,000 questions. It should almost read more like a Wikipedia article.

Sure you can make the umbrella gun, and it has been done before, but it isn't going to be a huge dangerous weapon.

[Kingsley Island]

The umbrella gun used to kill Markov was an airgun. It also operate by literally stabbing the victim with the umbrella.

But I mean like an air gun which actually shoots a ricin filled pellet into the victim.

[North Arkana]

As for your factbooks... They read more like propaganda pamphlets than information on the weapon.
"Feared worldwide! Deadly power! Long range! High powered rounds!"
"Our troops and weapons are feared and respected!"
Kek, they're more like adequate or equal to most weapons used by other NS nations.
Except that:
-Low rate of fire on the MG is a definite negative for suppression.
-Effective ranges are rather exaggerated for all weapons.

Propaganda is the whole point. We are socialist you know.

Also tbh I think our effective ranges are quite average (according to Wikipedia)


I guess no ricin tainted rounds then

What about a low suppressed calibre umbrella rifle? Then it's like pew pew and then 24 hours later he's dead

There's ballistic effective range, and then there's weapon effective range. A round may remain effective out as far as you claim, but a soldier probably can't hit a target that far (barring an expert sniper-spotter team ornluckynhit by saturation with bullets). Your sniper rifle has a 300 meter longer effective range than the weapon which currently holds the record for longest killshot, and it uses the same round.

[Kingsley Island]

Propaganda is the whole point. We are socialist you know.

Also tbh I think our effective ranges are quite average (according to Wikipedia)


I guess no ricin tainted rounds then

What about a low suppressed calibre umbrella rifle? Then it's like pew pew and then 24 hours later he's dead

The point of the factbook is generally to give other players a clear concise idea of your nation, so that when they RP with you they know some stuff about you and don't either mess up your nations character or ask 1,000 questions. It should almost read more like a Wikipedia article.

Sure you can make the umbrella gun, and it has been done before, but it isn't going to be a huge dangerous weapon.

Sorry saying the propaganda was the whole point was not good wording, tbh I just ran out of things to say and sol I was just like "what sounds good? Ah deadly long range, feared! All very good."

[Allanea]

That's going to be a really bad means of assassinating people.

For one there's no meaningful way to aim an umbrella.

Second if the victim is wearing any kind of heavy clothing (like say a sweater or a jacket) you're going to have the pellet just bounce off harmlessly unless it's a very powerful air gun.

Third, modern medicine can often save ricin victims by giving them supportive medical care (fluids etc.).

[Kazarogkai]

Both, optimally. I am a PMT nation so I probably have a bit more leeway with throwing money on electronic pleasantries than I might have MT wise.

I was thinking maybe a device to measure the spring force in the magazine to determine how many rounds are inside? There'd be metal tabs on the edge of the mag and the magwell so it can be connected to a small computer inside the gun somewhere that keeps track of everything (wireless is also a possibility but I feel like it presents security problems.) For combat use sights would have a colored LED screen with the number of rounds left (maybe even being able to preprogram total remaining rounds as well,) having it change colors, say from blue>yellow>red as your capacity goes down so you can get an idea of your remaining rounds from your peripheral vision without needing to fully take your eyes off your sights. That way if it's a distraction to whoever's using the gun, they can choose to remove it. For maintenance data, a separate touchscreen "sight" could be placed on the rail so you can poke around the data more easily. Or maybe just add a USB port...

Well the US army wanted a USB port IIRC.

No need for a presure sensor just have a small ID chip on the side of the mag that contacts a reader on the inside of the magwell and have the mag itself keep track of what position the follower is in. basiclaly just copy printer cartridges.

An even easier idea would be see through magazines which allow you to see more or less how many rounds are left in your magazine.

[Kingsley Island]

That's going to be a really bad means of assassinating people.

For one there's no meaningful way to aim an umbrella.

Second if the victim is wearing any kind of heavy clothing (like say a sweater or a jacket) you're going to have the pellet just bounce off harmlessly unless it's a very powerful air gun.

Third, modern medicine can often save ricin victims by giving them supportive medical care (fluids etc.).

What poison should I use?

[Orussia]

That's going to be a really bad means of assassinating people.

For one there's no meaningful way to aim an umbrella.

Second if the victim is wearing any kind of heavy clothing (like say a sweater or a jacket) you're going to have the pellet just bounce off harmlessly unless it's a very powerful air gun.

Third, modern medicine can often save ricin victims by giving them supportive medical care (fluids etc.).

What poison should I use?

There is a perfect poison.
It's called the VSS Vintorez.

[Kingsley Island]

What poison should I use?

There is a perfect poison.
It's called the VSS Vintorez.

What's that?

Is it real?

[Tule]

That's going to be a really bad means of assassinating people.

For one there's no meaningful way to aim an umbrella.

Second if the victim is wearing any kind of heavy clothing (like say a sweater or a jacket) you're going to have the pellet just bounce off harmlessly unless it's a very powerful air gun.

Third, modern medicine can often save ricin victims by giving them supportive medical care (fluids etc.).

What poison should I use?

Lead.

Injected with this.

[Sediczja]

There is a perfect poison.
It's called the VSS Vintorez.

What's that?

Is it real?

Yes.