NS Military Realism Consultancy Thread Mark IX Spitfire

[Orussia]

I hate everyone though, I have made this clear on numerous occasions.

Elves are just the one group of people you shouldn't be hating on, okay? Don;t you know billions of elves were killed in the Elf Genocide?

Check your elf-loving privilege.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

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Hey, it's racist to insult elves you jerk. She identifies as a elf.

I actually identify as a transethnic frenchwoman. Please don't insult me. Elves aren't people.

[Prosorusiya]

Sorry to be that obnoxious guy, but:
Repost of Repost: Here is my WIP OOB of my developing\wartorn country in the Northern Caucus reigon. Add a second battery with 6 BM-21s to this, formed up into an attached artillery battalion.

Thinking I might need to buy more J-7s too, just in case.

[Western Pacific Territories]

Hey, it's racist to insult elves you jerk. She identifies as a elf.

I actually identify as a transethnic frenchwoman. Please don't insult me. Elves aren't people.

You said you identified as a elf though. Once a elf, always a elf (unless a dwarf kidnaps you.).

[The Kievan People]

this is what happens when samoz is elected OP ;___;

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

I actually identify as a transethnic frenchwoman. Please don't insult me. Elves aren't people.

You said you identified as a elf though. Once a elf, always a elf (unless a dwarf kidnaps you.).

That wasn't me you ponce.

[Western Pacific Territories]

You said you identified as a elf though. Once a elf, always a elf (unless a dwarf kidnaps you.).

That wasn't me you ponce.

I had proof somewhere but couldn't find it.

[North Yemen-]

I hate everyone though, I have made this clear on numerous occasions.

Elves are just the one group of people you shouldn't be hating on, okay? Don;t you know billions of elves were killed in the Elf Genocide?

that never happened, it's a conspiracy by the elvish international new world order to numb us to their takeover of our media

#longliveHumanMasterRace #ElvesUntermensch

I'm wondering how one should organize a paramilitary organization, akin to that of the Polish Paramilitary, Swiss reserves or something of that nature. Should I organize and integrate them with the conventional military, or allow them to develop and operate somewhat independently in the case of potential invasion?

[Spirit of Hope]

I'm wondering how one should organize a paramilitary organization, akin to that of the Polish Paramilitary, Swiss reserves or something of that nature. Should I organize and integrate them with the conventional military, or allow them to develop and operate somewhat independently in the case of potential invasion?

Organize them to integrate with the military. It means things go smoother and faster if they ever are called upon to defend the home land. The only time it may be better to have them separate from the military is if you get occupied, and you should probably be trying to use them to defend your nation before then.

[Questers]

lol but why? thats a brigade size force your describing.

Because tank-centric proper.
Also, 36 is really small for a battalion. Most sit around 50-60.

As it is you're running 3x3x3 Tanks/Platoons/Companies.
I run 5x3x4.

UK is 4x3x3 btw. US Army does 4x3x4. Soviets loved 3x3x3, but also did 3x4x3.

British tank regiments usually include 2 tanks at the squadron & regiment level also. The squadron is ususally (4x3)*2 and regiments since 1990s have trended to being 3 squadrons+2 (44) or 4 squadrons +2 aka 58. Right now they're 4x3x4 but without the 2 command tanks, aka 56.

A Questarian tank squadron is 4*4 with 2 command tanks and the regiment has 4 squadrons with 2 command tanks, so 74. I thought this was the biggest tank regiment in NSMRC

[Prosorusiya]

A couple of questions:

First which is better, a Kh-23 or Kh-25 missile? Both are very similar air to ground missiles that i'm having trouble deciding between.

Second, what kind of rocket pods did Su-22M4s usually carry?

Third, can a J-7 carry either a R-60 or R-73 missile, and if so which is the better choice. My thinking is R-60 as it can be carried by both the Mig-21 and the Su-22s I own.

[Allanea]

Kh-25 is an improvement of Kh-23, choose Kh-25 unless you are set in a time period before Kh-23 was invented.

[Prosorusiya]

Nope, I'm present day, so Kh-25's it is, fresh from Ukraine's stockpiles. Taking delivery of some FAB-250 dumb bombs too.

What is the best Russian ECM Pod of the market right now? I'm looking to use it on my planes to increase their survivability on the modern battle field. I can't hope to live against F-22s, but not being insta-killed by F-16s would be great.

[Esalonia]

My thought was to reduce the recoil of a tank gun for the same amount of recoil length, and for that we're going to make it take longer for the gun to travel through its recoil length. Will it work?

[The Akasha Colony]

My thought was to reduce the recoil of a tank gun for the same amount of recoil length, and for that we're going to make it take longer for the gun to travel through its recoil length. Will it work?

What do you mean? As in travel more slowly along that length?

[Esalonia]

My thought was to reduce the recoil of a tank gun for the same amount of recoil length, and for that we're going to make it take longer for the gun to travel through its recoil length. Will it work?

What do you mean? As in travel more slowly along that length?

Yep. *insert Facebook Like icon here*

In the meantime the round is being readied for loading.

[Imperializt Russia]

IDF formations have been mostly 3X3X3 for nearly ever. I could possibly have 4 tank platoons or another company. IDK that it is a clear cut need though. I rather prefer a smaller, leaner battalion. I guess there are pros and cons to both.

If the battalion is to work in 4 different groups, it will work as following:
2 pure tank companies
1 2:1 tank/armored infantry
1 2:1 armored infantry/tank
My IFVs are basically my tanks with BMP-3 like turrets...

As for the soviets and the 18 tanks thing, I had not though someone actually played around with this. I pull the number 20 out of my head(read ass) after thinking about what is the minimum number of tanks my RL battalion would need to get the stuff it usually does done. It seems however my guesstimate is very close to reality.

IDF tank units were 4x4x3 for a long long time. They moved, as I understand it, to 3x3x3 to allow more maneuver units for fewer tanks. The IDF, always being in a material and personnel shortage, needed maneuver units, and so moved.

Fun fact: This is the kind of thing that I'm mostly into. Armed forces put a surprising amount of money and energy into it.

What was the intended purpose of a 18-tank battalion? I can see some (good) uses for it but not as a unit part of a spearhead or breakthrough action. 18 tanks basically makes it an oversized company really.

There's a new thread already? Hory sheet.

Hi, welcome to over a week ago.

Hey, it's racist to insult elves you jerk. She identifies as a elf.

I identify as mayonnaise, and mentioning identities triggers me.

On topic question: Is it still viable to have a launch vehicle for an Iskander-type SSM on a tracked chassis, a la Pluton?

If you want it to hang around near the front, sure. SSMs can afford to hang back with all the weird and wonderful box-truck modifications so can be argued doesn't need the off-road mobility of tracks and can make do with oversize off-road tyres if so needed.
Unless you've a surplus of tracked chassis about and don't have other uses planned for them.

I hate everyone though, I have made this clear on numerous occasions.

Elves are just the one group of people you shouldn't be hating on, okay? Don;t you know billions of elves were killed in the Elf Genocide?

Elves is a fairly shitty IDT meme born out of someone getting banned or warned or whatever for making racist remarks but substituting an actual race with elves.

Let's leave it there or preferably leave in in our minds, aye.

this is what happens when samoz is elected OP ;___;

Now, the first order of business is to blame everything on the guy before me.

Soode?

[The Akasha Colony]

What do you mean? As in travel more slowly along that length?

Yep. *insert Facebook Like icon here*

In the meantime the round is being readied for loading.

Unfortunately, it wouldn't work. In order to reduce the gun recoil speed, the recoil system has to apply greater arresting force on the gun. But if you could apply more force so easily, you could have already shortened the recoil travel to begin with. Gun recoil length is the minimum length required to reliably stop the gun without unduly stressing the components, and slowing the recoil velocity down means that this excess kinetic energy has to be transferred to the recoil mechanism, pushing it beyond that rated stress limit.

[Esalonia]

Yep. *insert Facebook Like icon here*

In the meantime the round is being readied for loading.

Unfortunately, it wouldn't work. In order to reduce the gun recoil speed, the recoil system has to apply greater arresting force on the gun. But if you could apply more force so easily, you could have already shortened the recoil travel to begin with. Gun recoil length is the minimum length required to reliably stop the gun without unduly stressing the components, and slowing the recoil velocity down means that this excess kinetic energy has to be transferred to the recoil mechanism, pushing it beyond that rated stress limit.

Currently thinking of a hydropneumatic recoil mechanism, which would be based off the hydropneumatic suspension.

[The Kievan People]

Currently thinking of a hydropneumatic recoil mechanism, which would be based off the hydropneumatic suspension.

It's one of the most common recoil mechanisms.

It was used on guns first though.

[New Vihenia]

What is the best Russian ECM Pod of the market right now? I'm looking to use it on my planes to increase their survivability on the modern battle field. I can't hope to live against F-22s, but not being insta-killed by F-16s would be great.

SAP-518.

[Azenyanistan]

How to invade Europe as a fictional Central Asian faction of the Muslims during the Crusades???

[North Arkana]

How to invade Europe as a fictional Central Asian faction of the Muslims during the Crusades???

Don't. You just end up uniting a fractured continent into a religion fueled furor of slaughter and rage. You will lose.

[Azenyanistan]

How to invade Europe as a fictional Central Asian faction of the Muslims during the Crusades???

Don't. You just end up uniting a fractured continent into a religion fueled furor of slaughter and rage. You will lose.

is my world canon


my azens were strong before

[Neo Philippine Empire]

Don't. You just end up uniting a fractured continent into a religion fueled furor of slaughter and rage. You will lose.

is my world canon


my azens were strong before

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