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Postby Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:35 pm

What's the heaviest weaponry that even overmilitarized SWAT teams use? Carbines? Shotguns?

A SWAT MRAP would probably need serious modifications on the offensive part to be a threat. They'd need to pilfer some machine guns, make ball mounts(or an RWS if there's someone with some technical know-how), and maybe gun ports?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:36 pm

NYPD has .50 rifles as do others, plenty have APCs and ostensibly, one has an "attack helicopter".

A SWAT group is pretty much a better-trained militia, so long as they have access to their equipment and are not targeted.
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Postby Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:42 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:NYPD has .50 rifles as do others, plenty have APCs and ostensibly, one has an "attack helicopter".

A SWAT group is pretty much a better-trained militia, so long as they have access to their equipment and are not targeted.

In a Red Dawn scenario, if SWAT members were able to escape in some force, then even if they don't have access to equipment they still have their training and knowledge. If cut off from friendlies, then they might be able to survive on airdropped supplies and supplemented with special forces, and might be valuable in training the rest of the population. Or am I being overly optimistic?
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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:44 pm

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Imperializt Russia wrote:NYPD has .50 rifles as do others, plenty have APCs and ostensibly, one has an "attack helicopter".

A SWAT group is pretty much a better-trained militia, so long as they have access to their equipment and are not targeted.

In a Red Dawn scenario, if SWAT members were able to escape in some force, then even if they don't have access to equipment they still have their training and knowledge. If cut off from friendlies, then they might be able to survive on airdropped supplies and supplemented with special forces, and might be valuable in training the rest of the population. Or am I being overly optimistic?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:47 pm

Western Pacific Territories wrote:I love your flag.

Shitposting on page four already...

So. What in this thread's opinion is the best sort of QRF?

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Western Pacific Territories wrote:I love your flag.

Shitposting on page four already...

So. What in this thread's opinion is the best sort of QRF?

Since we have to,


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Given that power projection is literally what it is designed to be optimized for, one imagines so.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Shitposting on page four already...

So. What in this thread's opinion is the best sort of QRF?

Since we have to,


Military brothels, do they work better on sea, air, or tracked or wheeled?

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Military brothels, do they work better on sea, air, or tracked or wheeled?

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Postby Crookfur » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:19 pm

Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 wrote:What's the heaviest weaponry that even overmilitarized SWAT teams use? Carbines? Shotguns?

A SWAT MRAP would probably need serious modifications on the offensive part to be a threat. They'd need to pilfer some machine guns, make ball mounts(or an RWS if there's someone with some technical know-how), and maybe gun ports?


Depends on what you mean by SWAT teams, if its the regular ole sheriff dept. unit then its likely to max out at .50BMG rifles and grenade launchers although the odd GPMG is not unknown amounst the more paranoid depts.

Most SWAP MRAP 9that are actually MRAPS) and not just armoured SUVs will still have thier pintle mounts and gun rings from when they were sold off.

Now if we start talking about some of the US federal agency SWAT teams then suddenly SAMs and ATGMs are on the table.
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:23 pm

In a PMT scenario, does anyone know what carriers will *look* like?

As in generally how might they operate?
Will they be bigger or smaller?
More armed or less armed?
Or will political science majors who just learned what a DF-21D is actually be right and they will be obselete?
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Postby The Kievan People » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:29 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:In a PMT scenario, does anyone know what carriers will *look* like?

As in generally how might they operate?
Will they be bigger or smaller?
More armed or less armed?
Or will political science majors who just learned what a DF-21D is actually be right and they will be obselete?


The Gerald R Ford will serve well into the second half of the 21st century; the first ship won't be due for retirement until 2066. Which is a fairly PMT time AFAIK.

Based on current uh, paradigms, what is likely to change most is the aircraft complement. Which will be mostly UCAVs with incredible range.
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Postby Palakistan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:46 pm

So, how would you deploy a Heavy Brigade Combat Team? Would you deploy it be a Sealift ship? And also, how many C-130's does it take to deploy, say, a Stryker Brigade Combat Team?
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Postby Vancon » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:47 pm

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Postby The Akasha Colony » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:00 pm

Palakistan wrote:So, how would you deploy a Heavy Brigade Combat Team? Would you deploy it be a Sealift ship?


By ship.

And also, how many C-130's does it take to deploy, say, a Stryker Brigade Combat Team?


How long do you have? Several hundred, if each only makes a single trip, but your airfield probably won't have space for several hundred C-130s. You can do it with just a few dozen if you're willing to wait a few weeks. And that presumes you don't have to stop along the way.
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Postby Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:05 pm

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Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 wrote:In a Red Dawn scenario, if SWAT members were able to escape in some force, then even if they don't have access to equipment they still have their training and knowledge. If cut off from friendlies, then they might be able to survive on airdropped supplies and supplemented with special forces, and might be valuable in training the rest of the population. Or am I being overly optimistic?

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Postby The Ukrainian Navy and Sea Guard » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:10 pm

Does anybody know of a way I could calculate how many ships Ukraine can reasonably afford to operate at one time? I'm thinking about moving away from single ship deployments, unless there is some reason I should stick with them.
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Postby Palakistan » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:12 pm

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Palakistan wrote:So, how would you deploy a Heavy Brigade Combat Team? Would you deploy it be a Sealift ship?


By ship.

And also, how many C-130's does it take to deploy, say, a Stryker Brigade Combat Team?


How long do you have? Several hundred, if each only makes a single trip, but your airfield probably won't have space for several hundred C-130s. You can do it with just a few dozen if you're willing to wait a few weeks. And that presumes you don't have to stop along the way.

It's actually from Turkey to Northern Egypt, so not far. I wantthe capability to rapidly reinforce my troops in Egypt if need be.
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