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Who Will be the OP of the next Infantry Thread?

Roski
2
3%
Prem (Estovnia)
7
10%
Puzikas
23
34%
Korva
12
18%
Eisarn-Ara
7
10%
Immoren
8
12%
Nirvash Type TheEND
8
12%
 
Total votes : 67

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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Founded: Dec 10, 2011
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:48 am

Registug wrote:oh, are those the identifying tattoos you keep going on about?

Fuckin' zombie! Kill it. . . or something.



Azenyanistan wrote:opinions on female infantry???

No reason not to.
(\/)(•,,,,•)(\/)
Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Nachmere
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Postby Nachmere » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:51 am

Azenyanistan wrote:opinions on female infantry???


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d3/da/f5/d3daf5fe5c5900e06b0931eeb84d9416.jpg


My 2 cents:

1) Case to case basis, there are many many women who can serve as infantry. As mechanization and technology reduce the physical constraints and weight load this % of infantry capable women will likely increase.

2) That said, there is no doubt that generally men are better fit physically for infantry and other combat roles.

3) To implement female combat troops well, I strongly believe that uniform standards must be maintained. If you let females do the same jobs while requiring less demanding physical fitness...Well, it is no different than just having slow and weak men in these roles.

4) I will bring the popcorn and watch this unfold.

* This poster participated in infantry tactical training with females, commanded female troops, and has no issues with female military service generally(Son of a female Lt. Colonel and brother to 2 female Lieutenants)

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:01 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:No reason not to.


They are all weak. Boudica was a feminazi.
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Puzikas
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Puzikas » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:04 am

Something something M16 self cleaning organ something something muh biology's
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Usually waiting for Puz ;-;

Goodbye.

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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:05 am

Lady bits don't keep them from squeezing gats.



A or B?
Why?
(\/)(•,,,,•)(\/)
Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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The Kievan People
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Founded: Jul 02, 2004
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Postby The Kievan People » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:06 am

Azenyanistan wrote:opinions on female infantry???


No point really aside from politics. Unless you lower physical standards significantly the number of women who would qualify is trivial, and the number who would be interested even more trivial.
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Nachmere
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Postby Nachmere » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:08 am

The Kievan People wrote:
Azenyanistan wrote:opinions on female infantry???


No point really aside from politics. Unless you lower physical standards significantly the number of women who would qualify is trivial, and the number who would be interested even more trivial.



well if you go completely co-ed barracks and facilities it costs you nothing to do...so why not. ofcourse at that point they start getting pregnant at 25-28 and drop from the service/reserve pooland all the training goes to waste.


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Nachmere
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Postby Nachmere » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:10 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Lady bits don't keep them from squeezing gats.



A or B?
Why?



A because i like my shoulders in their original colour.

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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:11 am

To be fair, a 5mm round probably won't whack you that badly.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Nachmere
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Founded: Feb 18, 2009
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Postby Nachmere » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:13 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:To be fair, a 5mm round probably won't whack you that badly.



fair point, i still would rather have a decent butt to shoulder properly.

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:13 am

B's stock wouldn't be all that stable though.
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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The Kievan People
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Postby The Kievan People » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:21 am

Nachmere wrote:well if you go completely co-ed barracks and facilities it costs you nothing to do...so why not. ofcourse at that point they start getting pregnant at 25-28 and drop from the service/reserve pooland all the training goes to waste.


Point. But I could flip this around and ask why, if we are conscripting, we couldn't just send the women to other non-combat units and send the men they free up to the infantry.

Your earlier point about mechanization is correct. But greater mechanization also means relatively more need for rear services and relatively less need for bodies on the front line. Infantry IIRC only account for something like 5% of all manpower in the US military so there doesn't seem to be a need to "broaden" the pool of potential recruits. On the contrary, a modern military could be highly selective of its infantry and probably (in contrast to historical practices) should be.
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Gone but not forgotten
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Leopard 2 IRL
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Anemos wrote:<Anemos> thx Kyiv D:
<Anemos> you are the eternal onii-san

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Nachmere
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Postby Nachmere » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:31 am

The Kievan People wrote:
Nachmere wrote:well if you go completely co-ed barracks and facilities it costs you nothing to do...so why not. ofcourse at that point they start getting pregnant at 25-28 and drop from the service/reserve pooland all the training goes to waste.


Point. But I could flip this around and ask why, if we are conscripting, we couldn't just send the women to other non-combat units and send the men they free up to the infantry.

Your earlier point about mechanization is correct. But greater mechanization also means relatively more need for rear services and relatively less need for bodies on the front line. Infantry IIRC only account for something like 5% of all manpower in the US military so there doesn't seem to be a need to "broaden" the pool of potential recruits. On the contrary, a modern military could be highly selective of its infantry and probably (in contrast to historical practices) should be.


Oh, I am not pro female infantry, I am just proposing ways in which if one has a burning wish to make it work, one should do it. Generally there is no logical reason to do this.
I was not reall

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Registug
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Registug » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:31 am

Puzikas wrote:Where the hell have you been?

I log in weekly to check the RMB, and nothing else :)
samoz linked me to that post and I felt like making a snappy comment tho
Call me Garshne

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Ulfr-Reich
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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:39 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Lady bits don't keep them from squeezing gats.



A or B?
Why?


B, That grey man, it's so gut.
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Husseinarti
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Postby Husseinarti » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:52 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Lady bits don't keep them from squeezing gats.



A or B?
Why?


Wat if put Gat in lady bit doe
Bash the fash, neopup the neo-cons, crotale the commies, and super entendard socialists

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:09 am

Husseinarti wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Lady bits don't keep them from squeezing gats.



A or B?
Why?


Wat if put Gat in lady bit doe


I saw a porno like that once
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Spreewerke
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:26 am

Husseinarti wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Lady bits don't keep them from squeezing gats.



A or B?
Why?


Wat if put Gat in lady bit doe


Prison pocket.

Surrender to enemy, they think you're unarmed, noep.mp4; birthed a Liberator, shot captors in face.

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United RussoAsia
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Postby United RussoAsia » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:01 am

Spreewerke wrote:
Husseinarti wrote:
Wat if put Gat in lady bit doe


Prison pocket.

Surrender to enemy, they think you're unarmed, noep.mp4; birthed a Liberator, shot captors in face.

That's why invasive searches.
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Crookfur
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Postby Crookfur » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:12 am

Spreewerke wrote:
Husseinarti wrote:
Wat if put Gat in lady bit doe


Prison pocket.

Surrender to enemy, they think you're unarmed, noep.mp4; birthed a Liberator, shot captors in face.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... na-6408153
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Spreewerke
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:13 am

Crookfur wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:
Prison pocket.

Surrender to enemy, they think you're unarmed, noep.mp4; birthed a Liberator, shot captors in face.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... na-6408153



Was waiting for this.

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United RussoAsia
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Postby United RussoAsia » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:14 am

Crookfur wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:
Prison pocket.

Surrender to enemy, they think you're unarmed, noep.mp4; birthed a Liberator, shot captors in face.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... na-6408153

Yep.
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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:32 am

Who loves forward swept falchions? I know Nirv does
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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