Infantry Discussion Thread, Pattern 7: Sword Edition.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Colouring's a bit meh, but I think it's looking good overall.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Is that some sort of partially cased round?

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

That's the idea. 4,8x36mm combustible cased.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Fluted chamber?

[Aqizithiuda]

Colouring's a bit meh, but I think it's looking good overall.

And the stubs are ejected below and forwards?

[Spreewerke]

Real FG 42 you shit

FG-42 has a weird offset balance. Ergonomically besides that it's v nice. Still waiting to shoot one but hey, can't win em all.

I don't really see the purpose in modernizing a lot of WWII era designs. Few of them can really hold the test of time; the FG-42 might be one of these, but its modifications would need to be extensive and plentiful.

Swizerlund modernized the FG-42 (but not their voting policy or childcare, apparently) in the 50s and 60s actually as a prototype assault rifle. It obviously lost to the better SiG STG-510 and such but was still an interesting effort.

I held one of those new-production FG42s in 7.92x57mm IS just yesterday. I could probably get you behind it if you visited. Anyway, I handle it with an empty mag, but man it was heavy. Comparing it to other 7.92x57mm IS rifles of the time, though, that held only a fourth or half as much ammo, it wasn't too bad (and I'm sure that weight was needed in full-auto). It was a second generation with the wood buttstock and standard angle pistol grip. What intrigued me the most is that the SCAR rifles apparently stole their iron sights quite blatantly from the FG42.

卐 /卐 : Would jump into Crete with.

And you're suggesting you're going to have people lining up to pay $2000-$2500 for a ten-pound shotgun while they can have all the same stuff with a $1000 shotgun that weighs 7 pounds?

Additional hilarity can be provided from the fact that Saiga-12 magazines start at $30. I doubt very much you will be able to make a Jackhammer magazine for under $100.

The SPAS-12 is kind of a shitty shotgun, but people still buy them because #JurassicPark. Desert Eagles are also blatantly retarded, but people get them because it's not a tumah. Do you know what people would buy a Jackhammer at $2k? People who want a Jackhammer. Same reason I've dumped thousands into a total of nine AKs that, realistically, perform hardly any differently than the one $500.00 WASR I have. Same reason people have Lugers, P.38s, M1911A1s, SKSs, Mosins, Kar98ks, etc. in 2015: because they want them.

[Fordorsia]

The SPAS-12 is kind of a shitty shotgun

From what I've seen people tend to either love it or hate it. Please explain.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Fluted chamber?

Yep.

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And the stubs are ejected below and forwards?

Forward right.

[Allanea]

The SPAS-12 is kind of a shitty shotgun, but people still buy them because #JurassicPark.

Production on the SPAS-12 ended 15 years ago. Doesn't sound like a very profitable design to me.

Desert Eagles are also blatantly retarded, but people get them because it's not a tumah.

They're also used for a variety of shooting sports like metal silhoette shooting and pistol hunting [just like the S&W 500]. There's also few competing .50AE pistols.

Jackhammer does at best exactly the same thing as Saiga, while weighing far more and costing twice as much.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Aren't most competition Deagles 9mm Baby Eagles?

[The Republic of Lanos]

I know it costs a couple hundred dollars for a few rounds of .50 AE. Cost-benefit doesn't look good.

Hilariously enough, I've seen a Deagle at my local gun shop.

[Allanea]

Different sport.

[Imperializt Russia]

FG-42 has a weird offset balance. Ergonomically besides that it's v nice. Still waiting to shoot one but hey, can't win em all.

I don't really see the purpose in modernizing a lot of WWII era designs. Few of them can really hold the test of time; the FG-42 might be one of these, but its modifications would need to be extensive and plentiful.

Swizerlund modernized the FG-42 (but not their voting policy or childcare, apparently) in the 50s and 60s actually as a prototype assault rifle. It obviously lost to the better SiG STG-510 and such but was still an interesting effort.

I held one of those new-production FG42s in 7.92x57mm IS just yesterday. I could probably get you behind it if you visited. Anyway, I handle it with an empty mag, but man it was heavy. Comparing it to other 7.92x57mm IS rifles of the time, though, that held only a fourth or half as much ammo, it wasn't too bad (and I'm sure that weight was needed in full-auto). It was a second generation with the wood buttstock and standard angle pistol grip. What intrigued me the most is that the SCAR rifles apparently stole their iron sights quite blatantly from the FG42.

卐 /卐 : Would jump into Crete with.

Did the Airborne have FG-42s in Crete?

[Tulacia]

I held one of those new-production FG42s in 7.92x57mm IS just yesterday. I could probably get you behind it if you visited. Anyway, I handle it with an empty mag, but man it was heavy. Comparing it to other 7.92x57mm IS rifles of the time, though, that held only a fourth or half as much ammo, it wasn't too bad (and I'm sure that weight was needed in full-auto). It was a second generation with the wood buttstock and standard angle pistol grip. What intrigued me the most is that the SCAR rifles apparently stole their iron sights quite blatantly from the FG42.

卐 /卐 : Would jump into Crete with.

Did the Airborne have FG-42s in Crete?

Nope. Crete happened in '41, FG-42 production started in 42

[Fordorsia]

I held one of those new-production FG42s in 7.92x57mm IS just yesterday. I could probably get you behind it if you visited. Anyway, I handle it with an empty mag, but man it was heavy. Comparing it to other 7.92x57mm IS rifles of the time, though, that held only a fourth or half as much ammo, it wasn't too bad (and I'm sure that weight was needed in full-auto). It was a second generation with the wood buttstock and standard angle pistol grip. What intrigued me the most is that the SCAR rifles apparently stole their iron sights quite blatantly from the FG42.

卐 /卐 : Would jump into Crete with.

Did the Airborne have FG-42s in Crete?

No, the FG 42 was made because of Crete

[Husseinarti]

The SPAS-12 is kind of a shitty shotgun, but people still buy them because #JurassicPark.

Production on the SPAS-12 ended 15 years ago. Doesn't sound like a very profitable design to me.

Desert Eagles are also blatantly retarded, but people get them because it's not a tumah.

They're also used for a variety of shooting sports like metal silhoette shooting and pistol hunting [just like the S&W 500]. There's also few competing .50AE pistols.

Jackhammer does at best exactly the same thing as Saiga, while weighing far more and costing twice as much.

you can use .22 LR peestol for target shooting y b dumb and buy SJW 500???

Also AKM production ended, does that mean its a shitty gun???

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Yes. M16 to the end of Earth, and beyond!

[United RussoAsia]

Yes. M16 to the end of Earth, and beyond!

Nope nope nope. \
Me and my freedom fighters will be killing people with FAL long after the m16 has decayed in all it's plastic glory

The free world shoots real bullets

[Tulacia]

Yes. M16 to the end of Earth, and beyond!

Because 'MURICA, every other gun in the history of ever is a shitty gun because it isn't 'MURICAN

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Yes. M16 to the end of Earth, and beyond!

Because 'MURICA, every other gun in the history of ever is a shitty gun because it isn't 'MURICAN

Now you're learning.

Yes. M16 to the end of Earth, and beyond!

Nope nope nope. \
Me and my freedom fighters will be killing people with FAL long after the m16 has decayed in all it's plastic glory

The free world shoots real bullets

If by freedom fighters you mean racist has-been regime unable to look past the halcyon days of the 70s, then sure.

[The Kievan People]

The free world shoots real bullets

No free country ever used the FNfail.

[Slavtania]

The free world shoots real bullets

No free country ever used the FNfail.

TIL Canada isn't a free country.

[United RussoAsia]

The free world shoots real bullets

No free country ever used the FNfail.

Lies

I find it telling that USSOCOM uses the FAL's child, the SCAR. They seem to like it just fine.
Actually they cancelled the order of the puny SCAR16 and are going full real bullet with all SCAR17's.

[The Kievan People]

We don't even have our own head of state!

[Husseinarti]

No free country ever used the FNfail.

TIL Canada isn't a free country.

Universal healthcare is a stable of Socialism.



kiev isn't a IRL leo 2, hes an IRL T-72BM