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Who Will be the OP of the next Infantry Thread?

Roski
2
3%
Prem (Estovnia)
7
10%
Puzikas
23
34%
Korva
12
18%
Eisarn-Ara
7
10%
Immoren
8
12%
Nirvash Type TheEND
8
12%
 
Total votes : 67

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New Visegrad
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Postby New Visegrad » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:05 pm

Gran La Plata wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:With gloves or gauntlets on, it won't really be uncomfortable. The metal bits will actually provide better grip by allowing the user's fingers to catch on them.
The hook doesn't help in that situation by being hook-shaped, it helps by being an extra piece of metal to bash the enemy's face in with. I'm not sure why that's hard to understand.


Practice and you'll get better. I used to be shit and now here I am doing this.


When I was a kid I could actually draw stuff. I mean, faces, bodies that didn't look like lovecraftian monsters and some spooky monsters too. Now I just draw stick figures on the side of my paper while at work.

So instead of drawing stick figures, draw other things. You won't get anywhere unless you try.
Think about using coworkers as references for practice pieces. Find photos of things you want to draw and use them as references. All my stuff starts as a sketch or doodle - being able to lay out an idea on paper is the basis for everything more advanced, and it's not hard to get the hang of with a bit of perseverance.
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It is the year 4411. After a devastating galactic war between the authoritarian Galactic Defense League and an alliance of breakaway factions seeking to overturn the fascist government, a new socialist state - the Core Governance - seeks to rebuild a unified, peaceful galaxy where everyone can live in safety.
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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:06 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:(Image)
(Image)
seems ok to me


Yeah that won't be uncomfortable at all...

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Korva
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Postby Korva » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:07 pm

Puzikas wrote:Tbh it didn't show up, sorry :<

np, you really didn't have to put a up a new vote cause there's no way I'm winning
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doesn't matter

puzikas for eternal idt oligarch


>Implying it won't be Sword Edition Mk. II

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:07 pm

New Visegrad wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Yeah that won't be uncomfortable at all...

And you're hitting with the bottom of the pommel? How exactly does the hook aid you in that endeavour?

With gloves or gauntlets on, it won't really be uncomfortable. The metal bits will actually provide better grip by allowing the user's fingers to catch on them.
The hook doesn't help in that situation by being hook-shaped, it helps by being an extra piece of metal to bash the enemy's face in with. I'm not sure why that's hard to understand.


Oh I understand perfectly. You're just wrong.

If it's good, then I'd like an explanation as to why no pommel has ever looked like yours.
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Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:12 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:With gloves or gauntlets on, it won't really be uncomfortable. The metal bits will actually provide better grip by allowing the user's fingers to catch on them.
The hook doesn't help in that situation by being hook-shaped, it helps by being an extra piece of metal to bash the enemy's face in with. I'm not sure why that's hard to understand.


Oh I understand perfectly. You're just wrong.

If it's good, then I'd like an explanation as to why no pommel has ever looked like yours.

Literally Tulwars.

The only thing 'wrong' with New Vis's sword is that the turk's head is too big for how he wants to hold it.
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Eisarn-Ara
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:16 pm

Korva wrote:Bladed Weapons of Your Nation: Fantasy Creature Free Edition



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I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:20 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Oh I understand perfectly. You're just wrong.

If it's good, then I'd like an explanation as to why no pommel has ever looked like yours.

Literally Tulwars.


Tulwars are completely different. They don't have extra things sticking into your hand and fingers "for comfort and grip" and the pommel is properly shaped.
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:28 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Literally Tulwars.


Tulwars are completely different. They don't have extra things sticking into your hand and fingers "for comfort and grip" and the pommel is properly shaped.

tfw viking era swords are literally proof of the concept.
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:39 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Tulwars are completely different. They don't have extra things sticking into your hand and fingers "for comfort and grip" and the pommel is properly shaped.

tfw viking era swords are literally proof of the concept.


No, they're not.
Image

Viking swords, which fit the hand tightly, whose pommels fits nicely into your palm when you cut with it properly, are not the same as a giant, awkward hooks that aren't even flush with the grip with a large, awkward rings digging into your palm. That knot is the same. Why is the handle even wrapped in something that way?
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:43 pm

Korva wrote:np, you really didn't have to put a up a new vote cause there's no way I'm winning


It's the principal.

Something something one death tragedy, a million a statistic

New Visegrad wrote:
Gran La Plata wrote:
When I was a kid I could actually draw stuff. I mean, faces, bodies that didn't look like lovecraftian monsters and some spooky monsters too. Now I just draw stick figures on the side of my paper while at work.

So instead of drawing stick figures, draw other things. You won't get anywhere unless you try.
Think about using coworkers as references for practice pieces. Find photos of things you want to draw and use them as references. All my stuff starts as a sketch or doodle - being able to lay out an idea on paper is the basis for everything more advanced, and it's not hard to get the hang of with a bit of perseverance.


Drawing is hard.

But you can learn.

One day I was playing pictonary with my girlfriend and her friends.

I drew something so horrid my girlfriend, the artist she is, forced me to learn to draw. I started with simple icons. Stars, shapes, objects. I moved on to more complex things. Most of them are done on a computer and that is, arguably, an easier medium to work with (in its own regard, barring trackpads), but practice makes perfect.

These are the first practical drawings I made. they were for a copy of a Glock. I traced a outline of a Glock slightly and then went and freehanded it.

Today I can say that, regardless of what people think of them, I can draw some rather interesting, kind of quirky and not totally bad guns. I even managed to draw A plane and some missiles.

My preference is logos though.

Oh, what does my girlfriend draw? Shit like this.
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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:44 pm

says the no sword

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °)
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:46 pm

Puzikas wrote:Oh, what does my girlfriend draw? Shit like this.

I thought that said NOTMAD at first. Would have been 20% cooler if it were.
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New Visegrad
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Postby New Visegrad » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:48 pm

(Art) -- People who get DEATed usually deserve it.
New Visegrad region - “One man stood tall and in the face of evil roared”
Capital: March City
Affiliation: Core Governance
Tech level: FT/Multiverse
Post-apocalyptic hypertechnological corporate/bureaucratic militaristic multispecies semi-utopia.
It is the year 4411. After a devastating galactic war between the authoritarian Galactic Defense League and an alliance of breakaway factions seeking to overturn the fascist government, a new socialist state - the Core Governance - seeks to rebuild a unified, peaceful galaxy where everyone can live in safety.
Brit. Concept artist (hire me). If you like to call people "SJWs" I'm probably one of them.

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Spirit of Hope
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Spirit of Hope » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:49 pm

Puzikas wrote:
My preference is logos though.



Why do you torture me with the dead remains of Terra Firma?

Also interesting way to learn to draw.
Fact Book.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:52 pm


Whoa, calm down there 9 year old me.
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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:53 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Korva wrote:np, you really didn't have to put a up a new vote cause there's no way I'm winning


It's the principal.

Something something one death tragedy, a million a statistic

New Visegrad wrote:So instead of drawing stick figures, draw other things. You won't get anywhere unless you try.
Think about using coworkers as references for practice pieces. Find photos of things you want to draw and use them as references. All my stuff starts as a sketch or doodle - being able to lay out an idea on paper is the basis for everything more advanced, and it's not hard to get the hang of with a bit of perseverance.


Drawing is hard.

But you can learn.

One day I was playing pictonary with my girlfriend and her friends.

I drew something so horrid my girlfriend, the artist she is, forced me to learn to draw. I started with simple icons. Stars, shapes, objects. I moved on to more complex things. Most of them are done on a computer and that is, arguably, an easier medium to work with (in its own regard, barring trackpads), but practice makes perfect.

These are the first practical drawings I made. they were for a copy of a Glock. I traced a outline of a Glock slightly and then went and freehanded it.

Today I can say that, regardless of what people think of them, I can draw some rather interesting, kind of quirky and not totally bad guns. I even managed to draw A plane and some missiles.

My preference is logos though.

Oh, what does my girlfriend draw? Shit like this.


Try a sword
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Gallia- » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:58 pm

i dont mean to be That Guy but the textures sort of distract from the layouts imo

generally these sort of lineart gun things are better with very light texturing or just plain solid colours

the last two are boss af btw is that illustrator?

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Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:00 pm

I agree, which is why I haven't drawn in awhile.

That and work. Lots of that.
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:05 pm

ive learned to enjoy ~Layers~ in spergscale so now all my afvs have specific layers for each type of bolt and nut on the wheels, the wheels, the wheel bogies, the suspension arms, the suspension springs, and specific weapon sights inside the afv

i mean it's not actually that bad but it might as well be i guess

only rpoblem is layers consume ram and i cant get more than 80-ish as you can gleam here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... faster.gif

the initial intention of this was to show a BIOS startup and the entire gif would have lasted close to two minutes for real time sequence but whatever
Last edited by Gallia- on Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:08 pm

Gallia- wrote:ive learned to enjoy ~Layers~ in spergscale so now all my afvs have specific layers for each type of bolt and nut on the wheels, the wheels, the wheel bogies, the suspension arms, the suspension springs, and specific weapon sights inside the afv

i mean it's not actually that bad but it might as well be i guess

only rpoblem is layers consume ram and i cant get more than 80-ish as you can gleam here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... faster.gif

the initial intention of this was to show a BIOS startup and the entire gif would have lasted close to two minutes for real time sequence but whatever

This isn't your regular every day sperg.

This is...

advanced sperg
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:10 pm

no it isnt because you can see the transparency of the frames due to a pixel

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... otated.gif

here is the 80+ frame one

or maybe 120

idr

dont want to open it to find out cba
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Orussia
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Postby Orussia » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:11 pm

Puzikas wrote:
One day I was playing pictonary with my girlfriend and her friends.

I drew something so horrid my girlfriend, the artist she is, forced me to learn to draw. I started with simple icons. Stars, shapes, objects. I moved on to more complex things. Most of them are done on a computer and that is, arguably, an easier medium to work with (in its own regard, barring trackpads), but practice makes perfect.

These are the first practical drawings I made. they were for a copy of a Glock. I traced a outline of a Glock slightly and then went and freehanded it.

Today I can say that, regardless of what people think of them, I can draw some rather interesting, kind of quirky and not totally bad guns. I even managed to draw A plane and some missiles.

My preference is logos though.

Oh, what does my girlfriend draw? Shit like this.

Reason #285 why I learned 3d modelling instead.
On the same subject, found case and bullet measurements for ye olde 6.5x57mm Federov, so I modeled it.
Question is, would the 6.5mm be a good replacement for 7.62mmR? I do know that using opens up the frankly awesome potential of the Avtomat Federov.
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Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:21 pm

Gallia- wrote:ive learned to enjoy ~Layers~ in spergscale so now all my afvs have specific layers for each type of bolt and nut on the wheels, the wheels, the wheel bogies, the suspension arms, the suspension springs, and specific weapon sights inside the afv

i mean it's not actually that bad but it might as well be i guess

only rpoblem is layers consume ram and i cant get more than 80-ish as you can gleam here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... faster.gif

the initial intention of this was to show a BIOS startup and the entire gif would have lasted close to two minutes for real time sequence but whatever


Is there some tutorial on how to do this shit (.gifs)

I have 16 gigs of RAM now so I'm not scared to try~

Orussia wrote:
Puzikas wrote:
One day I was playing pictonary with my girlfriend and her friends.

I drew something so horrid my girlfriend, the artist she is, forced me to learn to draw. I started with simple icons. Stars, shapes, objects. I moved on to more complex things. Most of them are done on a computer and that is, arguably, an easier medium to work with (in its own regard, barring trackpads), but practice makes perfect.

These are the first practical drawings I made. they were for a copy of a Glock. I traced a outline of a Glock slightly and then went and freehanded it.

Today I can say that, regardless of what people think of them, I can draw some rather interesting, kind of quirky and not totally bad guns. I even managed to draw A plane and some missiles.

My preference is logos though.

Oh, what does my girlfriend draw? Shit like this.

Reason #285 why I learned 3d modelling instead.
On the same subject, found case and bullet measurements for ye olde 6.5x57mm Federov, so I modeled it.
Question is, would the 6.5mm be a good replacement for 7.62mmR? I do know that using opens up the frankly awesome potential of the Avtomat Federov.


No it wouldn't be, mostly because pressure, ballistic coefficients, and other things. 7.62x54mmR was superior in every regard tbh, at least in the GPMG and rifle role.

Unless ofc you don't actually mean Federovs 6.5 cartridge and instead mean 6.5 Arasaka, in which case it's still no, but 6.5 Nipaneeae was a precursor to assault rifles as we know them today.

6x49mm would be a better replacement.
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Usually waiting for Puz ;-;

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New Visegrad
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Founded: May 30, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby New Visegrad » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:24 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Gallia- wrote:ive learned to enjoy ~Layers~ in spergscale so now all my afvs have specific layers for each type of bolt and nut on the wheels, the wheels, the wheel bogies, the suspension arms, the suspension springs, and specific weapon sights inside the afv

i mean it's not actually that bad but it might as well be i guess

only rpoblem is layers consume ram and i cant get more than 80-ish as you can gleam here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... faster.gif

the initial intention of this was to show a BIOS startup and the entire gif would have lasted close to two minutes for real time sequence but whatever


Is there some tutorial on how to do this shit (.gifs)

I have 16 gigs of RAM now so I'm not scared to try~

All you need to do is save the image states you want as separate images, then use them as frames in your animation editor of choice (I use Flash but I'm sure you can find a free gif maker somewhere, or if you have Photoshop that'll do it and there's plenty of Photoshop tutorials around). Then from there export as a gif and you're golden.
(Art) -- People who get DEATed usually deserve it.
New Visegrad region - “One man stood tall and in the face of evil roared”
Capital: March City
Affiliation: Core Governance
Tech level: FT/Multiverse
Post-apocalyptic hypertechnological corporate/bureaucratic militaristic multispecies semi-utopia.
It is the year 4411. After a devastating galactic war between the authoritarian Galactic Defense League and an alliance of breakaway factions seeking to overturn the fascist government, a new socialist state - the Core Governance - seeks to rebuild a unified, peaceful galaxy where everyone can live in safety.
Brit. Concept artist (hire me). If you like to call people "SJWs" I'm probably one of them.


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