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Who Will be the OP of the next Infantry Thread?

Roski
2
3%
Prem (Estovnia)
7
10%
Puzikas
23
34%
Korva
12
18%
Eisarn-Ara
7
10%
Immoren
8
12%
Nirvash Type TheEND
8
12%
 
Total votes : 67

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Radicchio
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Postby Radicchio » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:21 pm

What am i looking at here?
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:22 pm

A warthog LRV gun.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:23 pm

The balkens wrote:Mosins have the ability to kill you from a half mile away and i have heard that some Russians forces still use it. Meanwhile, Swords were obsolete as a weapon as late as ww1 or earlier in the Victorian era.

*sends PUZSIGNAL for help*


So you're saying mosins aren't obsolete.
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Postby The Kievan People » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:24 pm

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Postby Padnak » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:37 pm

:shock:

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Postby Radicchio » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:40 pm

The Kievan People wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1VMHQzwDwc


woa...

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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:42 pm

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Postby Themiclesia » Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:43 pm

Was this tank supposed to climb over that step?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUk6TiiFXYA

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:28 pm

mmm chauchat

With the chauchat being long recoil, would it be possible to cut the barrel down considerably for use as a trench clearer?
Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

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Postby Alimeria- » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:38 pm

The balkens wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
I don't even know what that means



So are mosins


Mosins have the ability to kill you from a half mile away and i have heard that some Russians forces still use it. Meanwhile, Swords were obsolete as a weapon as late as ww1 or earlier in the Victorian era.

*sends PUZSIGNAL for help*

I know not about Russians, but I do know Finns have sniper rifle based on Mosin action.

And like tribesmen in what is defined by America as being the middle east
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Postby Crookfur » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:46 pm

Radicchio wrote:What am i looking at here?
(Image)


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Your ordinary everyday scotiodanavian freedom loving utopia!

And yes I do like big old guns, why do you ask?

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Postby Husseinarti » Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:42 pm

Fordorsia wrote:mmm chauchat

With the chauchat being long recoil, would it be possible to cut the barrel down considerably for use as a trench clearer?


More than likely all the barrel length helps with recoil, so no.

Also it was already a trench clearer, you don't need to obrez everything.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:49 pm

Husseinarti wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:mmm chauchat

With the chauchat being long recoil, would it be possible to cut the barrel down considerably for use as a trench clearer?


More than likely all the barrel length helps with recoil, so no.

Also it was already a trench clearer, you don't need to obrez everything.


Fine I'll bullpup it
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:30 pm

Found this ole' thing of Sevvs' doing some gravedigging of old threads:

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Postby The balkens » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:33 pm

Ulfr-Reich wrote:Found this ole' thing of Sevvs' doing some gravedigging of old threads:

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Reminds me of that Submachine gun....

or a DP-28.

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Postby Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:10 pm

What are the best ways to increase an army's mobility in a preindustrial time?
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:24 pm

Be the Golden Horde.
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Postby United states of brazilian nations » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:59 pm

Rifle is fine, they say. Kalashnikov no need configuration of bullpupings, they say.

Image
Version of standard, with same barrel as usual Kalashnikov. Similarity of handle of carry to that of M-16 is coincidence of pure.
Image
Version with explosive projectile launcher of underbarrel positionings, chambered for western 40mm NATO grenades.
Image
Shorter-barreled versionings because for some reason engineers decided standard version wasn't compact enough. Difference is mininal any of way. Either they drank too much vodka-based caipirinhas or they just wanteds reason for put in grip of forwardings.
Image
Version of compact for vehicle crew and police.
Image
Version of sound reductions device for sneaky sneaky forces of special.


Looking at it now, the first version kinda looks like a poor man's L85. It might be because i recyceld the handguard from the normal AKs resulting in a somewhat bulky look, plus the round cut of the carry handle totally not stolen from my NotM16A2. Yeah, laziness sucks.

So, i did this because the internet decided it did not want to work anymore and i was somewhat bored. I'm thinking that its story could be an entry for an armed forces competition that resulted in the victory of another rifle, the FA03A4, but it would later find use in police units, militia units and a few special forces units alike (since some SF units are given great leeway when it comes to choosing the stuff they use, and police officers may acquire and use their own weapons).

Why two safety switches, you ask (or maybe not)? Well, since i was a bit worried about how having your safety/fire selector in the rear of the rifle would affect situations where a quick response is needed, i decided to add another safety switch near the pistol grip: this one would block the trigger bar, preventing it from being pushed. Also, for some reason i decided to put gas regulators in the mix, and the cleaning kit was moved from the stock to the pistol grip (albeit being smaller).
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Puzikas wrote:
Graznovia wrote:Why does the dude look like Putin?
Did you knot know? There is no Russian people, only clones of Putin. We don't get names, just Numbers.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Kouralia wrote:AKA FiSH and CHiPS(Fighting in Someone's House and Causing Havoc in Public Spaces):p

Fordorsia wrote:Breaking news: The estimated leading cause of death is dying.
Imperializt Russia wrote:Well what it is, is an 18.5mm piece of hollow metal that, through witchcraft and evil, becomes significantly larger than 18.5mm.
Puzikas wrote:fuck you for drawing a good looking bulpup AK.
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Postby The balkens » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:18 pm

United states of brazilian nations wrote:Rifle is fine, they say. Kalashnikov no need configuration of bullpupings, they say.

(Image)
Version of standard, with same barrel as usual Kalashnikov. Similarity of handle of carry to that of M-16 is coincidence of pure.
(Image)
Version with explosive projectile launcher of underbarrel positionings, chambered for western 40mm NATO grenades.
(Image)
Shorter-barreled versionings because for some reason engineers decided standard version wasn't compact enough. Difference is mininal any of way. Either they drank too much vodka-based caipirinhas or they just wanteds reason for put in grip of forwardings.
(Image)
Version of compact for vehicle crew and police.
(Image)
Version of sound reductions device for sneaky sneaky forces of special.


Looking at it now, the first version kinda looks like a poor man's L85. It might be because i recyceld the handguard from the normal AKs resulting in a somewhat bulky look, plus the round cut of the carry handle totally not stolen from my NotM16A2. Yeah, laziness sucks.

So, i did this because the internet decided it did not want to work anymore and i was somewhat bored. I'm thinking that its story could be an entry for an armed forces competition that resulted in the victory of another rifle, the FA03A4, but it would later find use in police units, militia units and a few special forces units alike (since some SF units are given great leeway when it comes to choosing the stuff they use, and police officers may acquire and use their own weapons).

Why two safety switches, you ask (or maybe not)? Well, since i was a bit worried about how having your safety/fire selector in the rear of the rifle would affect situations where a quick response is needed, i decided to add another safety switch near the pistol grip: this one would block the trigger bar, preventing it from being pushed. Also, for some reason i decided to put gas regulators in the mix, and the cleaning kit was moved from the stock to the pistol grip (albeit being smaller).


Poor mans L85?

You mean the EM-2?

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:19 pm

Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502 wrote:What are the best ways to increase an army's mobility in a preindustrial time?


Good roads. You can mount your entire army and only use pack mules for your baggage train if you want, but mules trains are less cost effective than mule or ox drawn wagons, and they can't carry as much weight or bulk, which is important if you want hospital tents or portable forges or large amounts of arrows, etc. Also, horses eat a lot.

Good roads not only make marching easier for infantry and riding easier for the cavalry, but they allow you to use wheeled vehicles. Built right you don't have to worry about mud, which has the added advantage of encouraging trade during traditionally wet times of the year.
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Postby United states of brazilian nations » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:27 pm

The balkens wrote:
United states of brazilian nations wrote:Rifle is fine, they say. Kalashnikov no need configuration of bullpupings, they say.

(Image)
Version of standard, with same barrel as usual Kalashnikov. Similarity of handle of carry to that of M-16 is coincidence of pure.
(Image)
Version with explosive projectile launcher of underbarrel positionings, chambered for western 40mm NATO grenades.
(Image)
Shorter-barreled versionings because for some reason engineers decided standard version wasn't compact enough. Difference is mininal any of way. Either they drank too much vodka-based caipirinhas or they just wanteds reason for put in grip of forwardings.
(Image)
Version of compact for vehicle crew and police.
(Image)
Version of sound reductions device for sneaky sneaky forces of special.


Looking at it now, the first version kinda looks like a poor man's L85. It might be because i recyceld the handguard from the normal AKs resulting in a somewhat bulky look, plus the round cut of the carry handle totally not stolen from my NotM16A2. Yeah, laziness sucks.

So, i did this because the internet decided it did not want to work anymore and i was somewhat bored. I'm thinking that its story could be an entry for an armed forces competition that resulted in the victory of another rifle, the FA03A4, but it would later find use in police units, militia units and a few special forces units alike (since some SF units are given great leeway when it comes to choosing the stuff they use, and police officers may acquire and use their own weapons).

Why two safety switches, you ask (or maybe not)? Well, since i was a bit worried about how having your safety/fire selector in the rear of the rifle would affect situations where a quick response is needed, i decided to add another safety switch near the pistol grip: this one would block the trigger bar, preventing it from being pushed. Also, for some reason i decided to put gas regulators in the mix, and the cleaning kit was moved from the stock to the pistol grip (albeit being smaller).


Poor mans L85?

You mean the EM-2?


Please no, at least externally it looks more like the L85 than the EM-2 does. :P
Puzikas wrote:
Graznovia wrote:Why does the dude look like Putin?
Did you knot know? There is no Russian people, only clones of Putin. We don't get names, just Numbers.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Kouralia wrote:AKA FiSH and CHiPS(Fighting in Someone's House and Causing Havoc in Public Spaces):p

Fordorsia wrote:Breaking news: The estimated leading cause of death is dying.
Imperializt Russia wrote:Well what it is, is an 18.5mm piece of hollow metal that, through witchcraft and evil, becomes significantly larger than 18.5mm.
Puzikas wrote:fuck you for drawing a good looking bulpup AK.
Puzikas wrote:USBN has a sensor that triggers after anything vaguely Brazilian is mentioned.
For HUE!

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Postby Puzikas » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:05 pm

United states of brazilian nations wrote:Rifle is fine, they say. Kalashnikov no need configuration of bullpupings, they say.

(Image)
Version of standard, with same barrel as usual Kalashnikov. Similarity of handle of carry to that of M-16 is coincidence of pure.
(Image)
Version with explosive projectile launcher of underbarrel positionings, chambered for western 40mm NATO grenades.
(Image)
Shorter-barreled versionings because for some reason engineers decided standard version wasn't compact enough. Difference is mininal any of way. Either they drank too much vodka-based caipirinhas or they just wanteds reason for put in grip of forwardings.
(Image)
Version of compact for vehicle crew and police.
(Image)
Version of sound reductions device for sneaky sneaky forces of special.


Looking at it now, the first version kinda looks like a poor man's L85. It might be because i recyceld the handguard from the normal AKs resulting in a somewhat bulky look, plus the round cut of the carry handle totally not stolen from my NotM16A2. Yeah, laziness sucks.

So, i did this because the internet decided it did not want to work anymore and i was somewhat bored. I'm thinking that its story could be an entry for an armed forces competition that resulted in the victory of another rifle, the FA03A4, but it would later find use in police units, militia units and a few special forces units alike (since some SF units are given great leeway when it comes to choosing the stuff they use, and police officers may acquire and use their own weapons).

Why two safety switches, you ask (or maybe not)? Well, since i was a bit worried about how having your safety/fire selector in the rear of the rifle would affect situations where a quick response is needed, i decided to add another safety switch near the pistol grip: this one would block the trigger bar, preventing it from being pushed. Also, for some reason i decided to put gas regulators in the mix, and the cleaning kit was moved from the stock to the pistol grip (albeit being smaller).


fuck you for drawing a good looking bulpup AK.

The balkens wrote:*sends PUZSIGNAL for help*


Some MVD units still use them as of 2008
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Postby Vancon » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:35 pm

Would it be possible to completely upsize a weapon and have it still work?

By this, I mean that you take something like an AKM and make everything bigger so that its rounds are a meter long.

Can this be done, or is size important when you're making a gun?
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Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:48 pm

Vancon wrote:Would it be possible to completely upsize a weapon and have it still work?

By this, I mean that you take something like an AKM and make everything bigger so that its rounds are a meter long.

Can this be done, or is size important when you're making a gun?


Probably, but what would be the point? You couldn't use magazines because of cartridge weights, and the gun is going to be much heavier, more complex, and require some sort of complex cradle to absorb recoil when compared to an ordinary artillery piece.
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Postby Vancon » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:51 pm

No point. Simple curiosity as to what kinds of bad would happen.
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Imperializt Russia wrote:
The balkens wrote:Please tell me that condoms and Hazelnut spread are NOT on the same table.

Well what the fuck do you use for lube?

Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.

Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

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