Infantry Discussion Thread, Pattern 7: Sword Edition.

[Padnak]

We've been lied to...

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

No free country ever used the FNfail.

Lies

I find it telling that USSOCOM uses the FAL's child, the SCAR. They seem to like it just fine.

They're both short piston so they're the exact same rifle!

[United RussoAsia]

Lies

I find it telling that USSOCOM uses the FAL's child, the SCAR. They seem to like it just fine.

They're both short piston so they're the exact same rifle!

I never said that.
The SCAR is quite obviously a better version of the FAL. Shot both, and the SCAR is better in most ways, but is obviously descendant of FAL.
It is however lighter, more accurate, and less recoil.
Also fugly and plastic. Slightly less reliable. Doesn't last as long.

Mostly because it's fugly and plastic.

[Imperializt Russia]

They're both short piston so they're the exact same rifle!

I never said that.
The SCAR is quite obviously a better version of the FAL. Shot both, and the SCAR is better in most ways, but is obviously descendant of FAL.
It is however lighter, more accurate, and less recoil.
Also fugly and plastic. Slightly less reliable. Doesn't last as long.

Mostly because it's fugly and plastic.

The SCAR is as "obviously descendant" of the FAL as the SMLE is of the Brown Bess.

[Husseinarti]

They're both short piston so they're the exact same rifle!

I never said that.
The SCAR is quite obviously a better version of the FAL. Shot both, and the SCAR is better in most ways, but is obviously descendant of FAL.
It is however lighter, more accurate, and less recoil.
Also fugly and plastic. Slightly less reliable. Doesn't last as long.

Mostly because it's fugly and plastic.

The AK-47 is the descendant of the StG-44!!!!!!!!!

[Padnak]

And yet there's still no love for the glorious K2

[Puzikas]

卐 /卐 would roller bolt

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

They're both short piston so they're the exact same rifle!

I never said that.
The SCAR is quite obviously a better version of the FAL. Shot both, and the SCAR is better in most ways, but is obviously descendant of FAL.

Obviously a descendant.

[United RussoAsia]

And yet there's still no love for the glorious K2

K2 is great. I want one but the lack of parts

For all the people I'm not quoting-
Hrm, let's see, FN needs a rifle to replace the FAL. So they start working on a new one and come up with the SCAR.

Where is the disconnect here?
The SCAR is the FAL's replacement. It is somewhat based off of it.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Hrm, let's see, FN needs a rifle to replace the FAL. So they start working on a new one and come up with the SCAR.

Where is the disconnect here?
The SCAR is the FAL's replacement. It is somewhat based off of it.

Exactly there, is the disconnect. That's not how families of firearms work. You're essentially saying the M16 is a descendant of the M1 garand because they were both used by America.

[Grand Calvert]

Hrm, let's see, FN needs a rifle to replace the FAL. So they start working on a new one and come up with the SCAR.

Where is the disconnect here?
The SCAR is the FAL's replacement. It is somewhat based off of it.

Exactly there, is the disconnect. That's not how families of firearms work. You're essentially saying the M16 is a descendant of the M1 garand because they were both used by America.

Exactly. The M1 Garand is still angry about how the M16 replaced it's beloved son, the M14.

[The balkens]

Exactly there, is the disconnect. That's not how families of firearms work. You're essentially saying the M16 is a descendant of the M1 garand because they were both used by America.

Exactly. The M1 Garand is still angry about how the M16 replaced it's beloved son, the M14.

Dat M21 doe.

[Ulfr-Reich]

Airmen/Naval Infantry sidearm is finished:



Name: M1948 Gârdispistole (GdP-48)

Cartridge: .358 Hârjis (9.1x26mm)

Ammunition Capacity: 16 Round

Action: Gas Delayed Blowback

Rate of Fire: FAO

Muzzle Velocity: 1,615 f/s

[The balkens]

Airmen/Naval Infantry sidearm is finished:

(Image)

Name: M1948 Gârdispistole (GdP-48)

Cartridge: .358 Hârjis (9.1x26mm)

Ammunition Capacity: 16 Round

Action: Gas Delayed Blowback

Rate of Fire: FAO

Muzzle Velocity: 1,615 f/s

i like

[Ulfr-Reich]

Oh, I was looking at rations on the google, and saw Russian rations.



Puz, you have my deepest sympathies & condolences, no man should ever have to eat that.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Oh, I was looking at rations on the google, and saw Russian rations.

(Image)

Puz, you have my deepest sympathies & condolences, no man should ever have to eat that.

That, plus liters of vodka, is standard Russian military cuisine.

[Ulfr-Reich]

That, plus liters of vodka, is standard Russian military cuisine.

Vodka? Not Tanker Hooch? Good Lord.

[Radicchio]

Oh, I was looking at rations on the google, and saw Russian rations.

(Image)

Puz, you have my deepest sympathies & condolences, no man should ever have to eat that.

That, plus liters of vodka, is standard Russian military cuisine.

I have cooked in a restaurant that specialized in Russian and Ukrainian foods, they look nothing like that stuff... Those poor soldiers...

[Ulfr-Reich]

That, plus liters of vodka, is standard Russian military cuisine.

I have cooked in a restaurant that specialized in Russian and Ukrainian foods, they look nothing like that stuff... Those poor soldiers...

Looks like puréed beef & fatty phlegm got mixed together in a tin.

[Immoren]

Yes. M16 to the end of Earth, and beyond!

Nope nope nope. \
Me and my freedom fighters will be killing people with FAL long after the m16 has decayed in all it's plastic glory

The free world shoots real bullets

[Puzikas]

At least use the right image

Oh, I was looking at rations on the google, and saw Russian rations.

(Image)

Puz, you have my deepest sympathies & condolences, no man should ever have to eat that.

your triggering me.

"No medication known to man can stop the bowel-twisting nightmare that comes from literally sucking down a puree of pork that has been salted, processed to the point it counts more as machine lubrication than food, then sealed inside a can for ~2 years.

Ideally you are supposed to heat it and stirr, then eat it with a kind of hardtack like bisket set.

Unfortunatly this is a dumb idea.


What normally happened was one opened the package and shook the can, normally by process of inversion, with vigor. Then one stabbed the can and cut it open, and peeled away the top. In the summer it was a crude liquid, in the colder seasons it was a blob that had a texture roughly similar to a slug.

One then said a prayer to their respective deity and preformed an approximate attempt of cunnilingus on a tin can until the wonderful salt-bath pork slid into your mouth. One needed to repeat this about 3 times to get the full 150 grams of regret into their gullet. This was nominally followed by either canned fruits or vegetables (credit: Normally not terrible. Typically sweet or simply flavorless) and hope that there was some Gum or a sweet in the pack. If one was brave, they tried to make drink. Normally this was followed by frustrated mumbling and an evening attempting to produce liquid cement to stop the flow.

If one managed to hold it down, one would find that this acts as a sort of internal staple for ones intestinal tract, unless the aforementioned beverage was consumed."

[Ulfr-Reich]

Horror Story of Lovecraftian Proportions

Oh Lordy, that sounds horrific.

Edit: Integrally suppressed model of that sidearm is finished.



stats:

Name: M1948-51 Gârdispistole - State Security Issue (GdP/SSI-48/51)

Cartridge: .358 Hârjis (9.1x26mm) subsonic/cold-loaded )

Ammunition Capacity: 16 Round

Action: Blowback

Rate of Fire: FAO

Muzzle Velocity: 890 f/s

[Sevvania]

Horror Story of Lovecraftian Proportions

Oh Lordy, that sounds horrific.

Edit: Integrally suppressed model of that sidearm is finished.



stats:

Name: M1948-51 Gârdispistole - State Security Issue (GdP/SSI-48/51)

Cartridge: .358 Hârjis (9.1x26mm) subsonic/cold-loaded )

Ammunition Capacity: 16 Round

Action: Blowback

Rate of Fire: FAO

Muzzle Velocity: 890 f/s

Now it just needs a stock.

[Spreewerke]

The SPAS-12 is kind of a shitty shotgun, but people still buy them because #JurassicPark.

Production on the SPAS-12 ended 15 years ago. Doesn't sound like a very profitable design to me.

It's almost as if you can still buy things after their production ends!

Desert Eagles are also blatantly retarded, but people get them because it's not a tumah.

They're also used for a variety of shooting sports like metal silhoette shooting and pistol hunting [just like the S&W 500]. There's also few competing .50AE pistols.

All of which can be done better by things that aren't the Desert Eagle, which echoes your next point and only reinforces my own:

Jackhammer does at best exactly the same thing as Saiga, while weighing far more and costing twice as much.

People will buy something that is not objectively the best if their subjective reasons for purchase justify it. Why do you think people still buy revolvers? Why do you think people still buy pre-'64 Winchesters (that were "discontinued" in 1964)? Why do you think people bought the R51 failure from Remington? Why do people buy Kimbers? Why do people buy Nighthawks? Why do people buy Salient Glocks? Why do people buy SGL-series AKs? Why do people buy Rifle Dynamics rifles (this one I seriously need an answer for)? Why do people buy HK91s even though PTR-91s exist? Why do people buy Noveske ARs? Why do people buy Mk. 23s? Why do people buy transferable full-autos? Why do people buy steel-cased ammo? Why do people buy Toyotas over Volkswagens? Why do people get PCs over Macs? Why do people like butt-stuff? Why do people get Nutella instead of generic, half-cost hazelnut spread? Why do people wear $50.00 t-shirts? Why do people still use record players? Why do people buy Mosins? Why do people buy Garands? Why do people pierce their genitals? Why do people only tip a waitress $4.00 instead of $5.00? Why do people buy clothes that aren't Adidas? Why do people buy Lugers? Why do people buy supercars? Why do people buy Glock 43s? Why do people buy M14s/M1As? Why do people buy 1918 Colt M1911s instead of just getting a Colt Rail Gun?

[Korva]

most of those questions keep purp up at night