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How should the Pindians respond to the terrorist attacks?

Poll ended at Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:18 pm

Peaceful Negotiations and Concessions.
2
17%
Track down and arrest suspects. But do not use violence.
2
17%
Work with other countries in a coordinated effort to find the cause of the attacks.
4
33%
POLICE BRUTALITY! POLICE BRUTALITY!
0
No votes
Raise Military Spending to 100% of GDP and invade all neighbours.
1
8%
Launch 100000000000000 nukes in all directions, hoping to hit the terrorists.
2
17%
I for one, welcome our new homicidal overlords. :).
1
8%
 
Total votes : 12

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Postby FPPCIE » Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:38 am

I support thermonuclear warfare. Do you?

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Postby BFU » Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:59 am

The Ambassador had no idea what to do... the continent of Purasia had never been under so many threats at once before. The FPPCIE Ambassador was for direct action to crush the insurgency but the BFUian Ambassadors were not sure about this "restoration of order campaign". The ambassador talked with the representative from the colonies: communists were gathering. What used to be mere grumbling against His Majesty's rule of the overseas territories now was turning into active (albeit non violent) opposition. The rise of the Fist of Pindai only fanned the flames of dissent across Purasia, whether or not they actually had any ideas in common with the group.

The BFUian ambassador typed up a little letter directly to the Pindian Council and Zorium :

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The BFU Foreign Affairs Department

To: The Pindian Council, Emperor Soraz of Zorium
From: The BFUian Ambassador
Importance: Utmost
Encryption
: Moderate

The organisation the 'Fist of Pindai' has been brought to His Majesty's attention. He strongly wishes for the suppression of this insurgency as soon as possible. As you undoubtedly know, the DuCont Alliance has started mobilising and will be able to launch an incursion to crush the terrorists within a week. But I have a problem, is there any need for a large mobilisation order of fully armed troops just to crush an insurgency? Methinks not. It may cause a huge disturbance over something that could have been solved with coordination between our nations to contain the uprising.

The King has come up with two options that he hopes will allow you to come out of this terrible crisis without violence. The first is a perpetual union between our two nations: The United Kingdom of Pindai and Slydaria (which would contain the island of Pindai, the Pindian Republic and maybe Zorium). King Vorstenhuis, being half Pindian, is eager to put this approach into action if he has your permission. In fact he is so eager that he would be ready to cede most of his powers to a new Pindian-Slydaria Joint council (which will act as the parliament of our two nations) just to make it happen. How could this union solve the problem? Well the declaration of His Majesty as constitutional monarch of both our realms may sap the legitimacy of the Fist of Pindai and lessen their support. Also, as the Pindians would technically control BFUian land and vice versa, their territorial claims would fade in significance as well. In addition to all of the above, once the Union is finalised BFUian Security forces will be able to dispose of nasty rebels. And just as an assurance, we will add a clause in the unification treaty which will allow your nation to break it at any time you wish if you feel it is the will of the people to do so (maybe via a referendum or other such vote/movement).

Your second option only entails the BFU sending a small force of 35,000 specialised riot squad units as well as technical geniuses to disrupt rebel communication. We would however want to know the quantity of rebels in the uprising and how they are armed first

We cannot force you to accept either of these proposals. But we urge you accept at least one for the collective good of everyone here.


The BFUian Ambassador sent the message , stood up and said:

"We should only take direct action if all other options have been taken that don't involve so much violence. It is not in BFUian interests to send actual armed troops and vehicles into foreign land at this point, for a multitude of reasons. 'Speak softly with a big stick' not 'Shout your head off waving a katana '" . We will see how things play out. But for now we will only offer limited assistance. If there is armed foreign intervention, then it must be clearly approved by the Pindians, that I cannot stress enough. His Majesty will have it no other way. " (statement revoked effective 13/4/15)
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Postby Pindian Republic » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:28 am

For your information: Pindai is a large island north of the continent of Purasia. It is not on Pindian soil. In medieval times they conquered Pindian soil (and some parts of the BFU and FPPCIE). But they were defeated in a revolution (read the Pindian Republic's profile dispatch).

The Pindian Council will take your offer into consideration. There will be an emergency meeting of the Council at 18:00 Pindian time.

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Postby BFU » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:46 am

Pindian Republic wrote:For your information: Pindai is a large island north of the continent of Purasia. It is not on Pindian soil. In medieval times they conquered Pindian soil (and some parts of the BFU and FPPCIE). But they were defeated in a revolution (read the Pindian Republic's profile dispatch).

The Pindian Council will take your offer into consideration. There will be an emergency meeting of the Council at 18:00 Pindian time.
Oh, okay. (I might add that to the map as well).

We hope you accept our gracious offer(s).
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Postby FPPCIE » Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:17 am

Outside, helicopters could be heard landing. Several Ferumavian Generals rushed in, bringing with them all sorts of communication equipment and maps. Some workmen rolled in a Giant GlassCast monitor (hologram contained within glass) with an image of Purasia flickering upon it, with several blue dots lined up upon the northern border. More workmen bought in other equipment, ranging from radios to rifle holders. Outside, a Mobile Emergency Command Center was set up.

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The Grand CEO stood up. "Gentlemen, for the sake of being here with you in person, I've bought my Command Center here. Now we can talk diplomacy while we watch terrorists die. Someone get me a map on Pindai. I need to settle possible drop points, invasion plans, weak spots. Etc."
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Postby Pindian Republic » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:47 pm

The Pindian Council has delayed its reply to the BFU's offer. Something else has come up that need to be discussed first.

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Postby Pindian Republic » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:38 am

This is what the Pindian Council has been discussing. We're sorry it took use so long to share it with you. There is some... sensitive information in this video... The Fist of Pindai sent it to use yesterday evening. We wonder if the BFU's offer still stands after this revelation. If that is the case we'll discuss it during our next meeting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-uL1mnnw3g
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Postby BFU » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:19 am

The Ambassador got out a report template on which he wrote down everything he could hear in the broadcast. He then transmitted a copy of his report to Herriaren where it would be analysed, along with the video broadcast. Afterwards he placed the report inside a brown envelope and into a folder labelled "Pindian Republic - C.Bs" .

He turned to the rest of the people in the meeting:

"Intensive drone strikes will be carried out on Fist of Pindai outposts tonight . The BFU hereby revokes its earlier statement regarding the search for a less violent solution & is now taking a centre role in combating these terrorist scum."

The Ambassador was relieved that he finally had permission to say such words, even though he had hoped that this Pindai thing would blow over without excessive violence not too long ago, he now realised that complete annihilation of such groups is the only option. After his statement to the Purasian nations he turned to the Pindian Ambassadors:

" You may still consider our unification proposal if you so wish. Just keep in mind: When two countries are close together and not friends, it can become difficult to prevent... friction."

The ambassador marched off. He made it clear what he thought of the situation. Now it was a matter of waiting until the King reacted to this unpleasant revelation. After all, his opinion was far more important to the BFUians and the world than the ambassador's.
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Postby Gourmand » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:12 am

The Gourmandian ambassador was the only ambassador apart from The vile league of evil Emperor who was over the moon. The recent hike in tensions (which have only been heightened by the Fist of Pindai revelations) has led to an influx of immigrants and refugees who, once arriving in Gourmand, found that usually the minimum wage was so much lower than in their previous country that they were better off not leaving.

"Please by all means countries of Purasia, bomb these terrorists and while you're at it, try to provoke war with each other (also irresponsibly spend money please) . We want some of the profit! *drools*"

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Postby Newan » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:15 pm

The EoN has increased defence budget by 33% of what it was before in the last week. And it will continue to rise.

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Postby Newan » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:21 pm

Newan has just approved the making of enhanced genetic super soldiers from birth to make babies into the finest soldiers. It is now called Project Dagger.

"So come everyone, send your children to be raised into something significant. Actually never mind we will just choose who we want."

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Postby FPPCIE » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:07 pm

The Grand CEO slammed his fist on the table. "Unbelievable. Since you are too cowardly to take action, as always, the FPPCIE will have to lead the way. I'm now adding the JAF (Joint armed forces) of the DuCont alliance to the fight, will Newan's approval of course. The FPPCIE and DuCont is now engaged in Official War with the "Fist of Pindai." As for the allegations made by the terrorists about the PR...I'm extremely displeased, but I will refrain from action until the Fist is defeated. I'm authorizing subsections 4/5 of Article 3 of the Dual Continental Alliance Treaty. Since our navy isn't ready yet, we will air-drop small amounts of APR special forces into Fist territory, to establish recon and "soften" areas for naval invasions and landings. I can not express how displeased I am on the reluctantence of the Purasian powers to actually do anything."

The Grand CEO turned to the a Director of Air and Space and quickly nodded. The Director nodded back and typed a message to Profitia, ordering tactical insertion of Special Forces.

The CEO sat back down in his chair. "No one threatens the FPPCIE and expects nothing to happen. The audacity of the terrorists shocks and angers me. When we are done with the Fist, we will salt the earth and pepper the water. Ad maiorem Dei gloriam!"

http://youtu.be/JI6VPFQw6BU


(Just some mood music. I think it portrays the situation really well.)
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Postby Newan » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:31 pm

FPPCIE wrote:The Grand CEO slammed his fist on the table. "Unbelievable. Since you are too cowardly to take action, as always, the FPPCIE will have to lead the way. I'm now adding the JAF (Joint armed forces) of the DuCont alliance to the fight, will Newan's approval of course. The FPPCIE and DuCont is now engaged in Official War with the "Fist of Pindai." As for the allegations made by the terrorists about the PR...I'm extremely displeased, but I will refrain from action until the Fist is defeated. I'm authorizing subsections 4/5 of Article 3 of the Dual Continental Alliance Treaty. Since our navy isn't ready yet, we will air-drop small amounts of APR special forces into Fist territory, to establish recon and "soften" areas for naval invasions and landings. I can not express how displeased I am on the reluctantence of the Purasian powers to actually do anything."

The Grand CEO turned to the a Director of Air and Space and quickly nodded. The Director nodded back and typed a message to Profitia, ordering tactical insertion of Special Forces.

The CEO sat back down in his chair. "No one threatens the FPPCIE and expects nothing to happen. The audacity of the terrorists shocks and angers me. When we are done with the Fist, we will salt the earth and pepper the water. Ad maiorem Dei gloriam!"

http://youtu.be/JI6VPFQw6BU


(Just some mood music. I think it portrays the situation really well.)

"You don't need my consent to have us declare war on these fools." Spoke the Emperor of Newan. "We're preparing our ground forces to move in. Perhaps it's time to test our new weapon prototypes as well".

"The DuCont will crush these fools and not let them have any of what they claim"

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Postby The Siblings » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:56 am

Pulling the female ambassador back into her seat, the male ambassador for The Siblings stood, "Gentlemen, while I fully understand the urgency of the situation, I would urge you all to remember the people of Pindai. Let us not ensure their future while carelessly exterminating most of them. War is a messy business, one to be used carefully, if at all. My sister has emphatically declared our country's willingness to go to war to protect our region, and she is right to do so. However, The Siblings is far more hesitant to conduct a war on foreign soil when uninvited by that country's true government. We can however, send a team of very talented investigators to help in the discovery of terrorist hideouts, ammunition stores, and the like. Crime has often plagued our fair country; I assure you, we have a thriving number of detectives and investigators, both government and civilian, who you would find very useful."

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Postby FPPCIE » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:16 am

The Grand CEO shook his head. "Uninvited? That's the point. We need to make a statement quickly and harshly. I for one refuse to stand by and let a terrorist organization make outlandish threats. Airstrikes on Pindai will be conducted after APR has scouted out valuable targets and hideouts. As always, you are slow to action."
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Postby BFU » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:20 am

FPPCIE wrote:The Grand CEO slammed his fist on the table. "Unbelievable. Since you are too cowardly to take action, as always, the FPPCIE will have to lead the way. I'm now adding the JAF (Joint armed forces) of the DuCont alliance to the fight, will Newan's approval of course. The FPPCIE and DuCont is now engaged in Official War with the "Fist of Pindai." As for the allegations made by the terrorists about the PR...I'm extremely displeased, but I will refrain from action until the Fist is defeated. I'm authorizing subsections 4/5 of Article 3 of the Dual Continental Alliance Treaty. Since our navy isn't ready yet, we will air-drop small amounts of APR special forces into Fist territory, to establish recon and "soften" areas for naval invasions and landings. I can not express how displeased I am on the reluctantence of the Purasian powers to actually do anything."
OOC: What exactly is the CEO reacting to when he says "Unbelievable?"
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Postby BFU » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:39 am

Hearing The Siblings Ambassador talk with the FPPCIE, the BFUian envoy said:

"I will have to concur with the CEO to an extent. This terrorist group is provoking us into a fight. I say we should give them that fight if they are really stupid enough to act against an entire continent of military supergiants. The first drone strikes by the BFU were carried out this morning and more will be conducted over the coming week. We will share any intelligence that we have about F.O.P outposts, so we can help other nations plan their airstrikes more effectively and avoid any accidents. However, the ambassador from The Siblings makes a good point when he says that we should be careful of innocent casualties and keep them to a minimum. The horrific acts committed by Purasian nations (not gonna name any names) in the past decade have put this continent to shame. Did you know that immigration to the Purasian continent has slumped during that time? Not to mention the economic damage this continent has inflicted upon itself leaving continental-wide growth at an all time low and continental debt at an all time high. It's completely reasonable for any nation on this continent to attack these aggressive savages but we must make sure that when our collective military might comes down upon them we are not also destroying the lives of those who live in Pindai. We must be prudent as well as harsh when it comes to dealing with threats otherwise we are no better than the ones we are destroying.

Nevertheless the BFU fully realises the danger of this group and shall act accordingly. Of course due to the far more serious communist threat the BFU shall not be committing an excessive amount of military power to the operation. Apologies for the inconvenience. "
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Postby Pindian Republic » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:18 am

The Pindian Council has agreed to the offer of the BFU to form an union. But it has some conditions:
- The king of the BFU can only serve as an adviser in a joint Slydarian-Pindian Council. He can hold no real political power, unless elected as a member of this council.
- The Pindian Republic will not build a military under any conditions.
- There will still be plenty of autonomy for the Pindian Republic and the BFU, both nation are different and have different ideals.
- Both the Pindian Republic and the BFU should have to right to dissolve this union without any kind of conflict.

Do you accept these conditions?
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Postby Slydaria and Pindia » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:13 am

Pindian Republic wrote:The Pindian Council has agreed to the offer of the BFU to form an union. But it has some conditions:
- The king of the BFU can only serve as an adviser in a joint Slydarian-Pindian Council. He can hold no real political power, unless elected as a member of this council.
- The Pindian Republic will not build a military under any conditions.
- There will still be plenty of autonomy for the Pindian Republic and the BFU, both nation are different and have different ideals.
- Both the Pindian Republic and the BFU should have to right to dissolve this union without any kind of conflict.

Do you accept these conditions?
Yes these terms are agreeable. Regarding your no military for PR statement. Is the building up of a joint defence force (which will be used for only that) acceptable to the Pindians?

And both our nations will retain most of our autonomy. This union is to coordinate actions we agree upon.

(OOC: This account is mainly just going to be here to show the union exists and if the union is broken by either country I'll just leave itself to get deleted. This new nation can also be a place to put factbook entries that solely affect Pindian-BFUian council resolutions but only if we both can agree to the contents. )
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Postby BFU » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:38 am

Pindai wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pindai/detail=factbook/id=403019
The Ambassador remarked: "So another attack by the Pindai terrorists? This won't do anymore to further your cause. Only hasten your destruction!. As a result of these barbaric attacks, full scale carpet bombing will be taking place on Fist of Pindai outposts along with a naval blockade. FPPCIE and Newan, we'll provide assistance in any future land invasions (we still won't endorse atrocities though). "
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Postby Pindian Republic » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:20 pm

Slydaria and Pindia wrote:
Pindian Republic wrote:The Pindian Council has agreed to the offer of the BFU to form an union. But it has some conditions:
- The king of the BFU can only serve as an adviser in a joint Slydarian-Pindian Council. He can hold no real political power, unless elected as a member of this council.
- The Pindian Republic will not build a military under any conditions.
- There will still be plenty of autonomy for the Pindian Republic and the BFU, both nation are different and have different ideals.
- Both the Pindian Republic and the BFU should have to right to dissolve this union without any kind of conflict.

Do you accept these conditions?
Yes these terms are agreeable. Regarding your no military for PR statement. Is the building up of a joint defence force (which will be used for only that) acceptable to the Pindians?

And both our nations will retain most of our autonomy. This union is to coordinate actions we agree upon.

(OOC: This account is mainly just going to be here to show the union exists and if the union is broken by either country I'll just leave itself to get deleted. This new nation can also be a place to put factbook entries that solely affect Pindian-BFUian council resolutions but only if we both can agree to the contents. )

Building a joint military force is unacceptable for the Pindian Council.

OOC: Maybe we could share that account and discuss the issues it gets to make a realistic union? Also, should we create a new region for this?

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Postby FPPCIE » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:34 pm

2000 people dead. For no reason. Unacceptable. Someone get me a map of Pindai.
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