NATION

PASSWORD

The Principles of Agonocracy

A place to put national factbooks, embassy exchanges, and other information regarding the nations of the world. [In character]
User avatar
Greater Mackonia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5085
Founded: Sep 13, 2011
Ex-Nation

The Principles of Agonocracy

Postby Greater Mackonia » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:31 pm

The Principles of Agonocracy

Image


Agonocracy; rule by struggle (from the Greek ἀγών; 'contest' or 'progressive struggle' and κράτος 'power'). Is a political system based of the thought of Mackonian Polymath Z.Maglos. Agonocracy considers itself beyond shallow definitions of left and right; even eschewing concepts such as Libertarian and Authoritarian or Progressive and Conservative, instead its advocates posit themselves as harbingers of a radically new thought that fundamentally goes beyond such petty dichotomies.


The Method to the Madness I



To understand Agonocracy let us attempt briefly to summarise its core reasoning, which is more so philosophical then particularly political. Thus it will be necessary to give you a very short run-down of the "Philosophy" of one Z.Maglos, a depressive lizard in an ill-fitting overcoat and a panama hat.

Firstly this stems from that age old, oft-repeated, existentialist soundbite that one must give one's own life meaning in order to achieve genuine freedom. In the age of Godlessness man has to find his own way, to become a creator of values. Indeed with God dead and everything permitted it is an imperative that man create his own values, or what is he but another animal (of course Maglos had to put this into the context of lizards but your humble author shall use 'man' for emphatic reasons). Thus, out of meaninglessness, mankind finds a paradoxical meaning. Life has purpose from its purposeless; that is to give life purpose. To become, as Stirner put it, one's own creature and creator, a God of your own faith. To summarise, the purpose of life is to give meaning to it and all else is worthless,passive observation

This is no new doctrine but from henceforth is where Agonocracy is born. In order to adequately establish values one must have intellect, Maglos saw this as self-evident, one who knows why things happen is certainly superior in the task of evaluation then one who simply knows 'they happen'. Intellect is thus valuable in itself, indeed it is the principle weapon in all sentience's struggle for meaning and salvation from barbarism, cultural degeneration and suicide.

For Maglos sentient beings fundamentally did not care for suffering but that their suffering as meaningless, citing everything from Protestant martyrs smiling at the stake to Soviet peasants fervently clinging to the notions of Communism as they starved to death. Maglos believed that the intelligent will fundamentally be able to achieve "Enlightenment" which for Maglos was simply independence from dogmas and prejudices to establish an independent, educated opinion. Not necessarily one which agreed with him. The Enlightened will ultimately be able to find meaning to their lives and both accept the meaninglessness of suffering. However Maglos perceived a great, all-encompassing, merciless conspiracy against these individuals."The Herd". That is, for Maglos, the vast masses of unintelligent, talentless, conformist people who are not able to fulfill this mightiest of visions. Maglos believed that the vast majority of people would not embark upon this journey and instead would cling to prejudiced dogma to find meaning, be it in renewed religious belief, ideologies such as Marxism or Fascism and illusions of choice and free will such as Democracy or Individualism.

Agonocracy rejects any remote egalitarianism, Maglos saw universal rights and equality as dependent upon a creator to make men equal, what else could remove the fundamental fact that some are simply better than others? By natural law or strength of will there emerge those with greater charisma, learning and intellect among any society. As we have covered earlier Maglos saw intellect as valuable in itself. The Herd are the vast masses to whom conformity is the only moral law. For example, even in deeply religious societies there exist all sorts of sins so long as they are hidden from view, why the simple example of the Priest thundering against immorality from the lectern on Sunday morning despite frequenting the local brothel on Saturday night. The Herd simply do "what one should do", they have no morality, only obedience, as long as they can get away with it while still "appearing" to conform with the norm.

Thus this leads to our conclusion, that is Maglos's, the fatal flaw of Existentialism and the major block to any attempt to live a "genuine", "enlightened", "free" or however you want to put it, existence, while being involved with society. Society by its very nature requires some form of conformity to its norms, if one does not, one is crushed. That is the simple nature of law enforcement, an individual who creates his own values will inevitably be resented by the Herd, ostracised or forced into secrecy.

Maglos concluded there exists only two solutions to this: One is withdrawal from society, which he saw as an inferior one which would only replace societal pressures with material ones, the other; to control society. All of society must be seized control of and mobilised for the benefit of the superior specimens of the civilisation, to set to the task of creating new values, free from fallacy...and perhaps running things a little more competently than the spineless mass-elected democrats for once. Thus was born Agonocracy.


Political Theory II



Having established the perverse reasoning behind Agonocacy we may now examine it in itself. However first a word on how Agonocracy rules other regimes. Maglos asserted that Freedom was a "limited resource" and not a constant. Every increase of freedom for one party will inevitably weaken another, the freedom of a Neo-Nazi football hooligan to chant "Sieg Heil!" removes the freedom of the Orthodox Jew walking down the street as he feels offended and repulsed, likewise the freedom of one group will inevitably weaken that of another. The freedom of the collective that of the individual. Compromise merely leaves both groups equally enslaved. This was the basis of his primary criticism of Democracy, whereas at least in a dictatorship the ruling faction are totally free, in a Democracy all are equally enslaved with a mediocre measure of freedom for all. Maglos saw Democracy as a deeply poisonous idea whereby the great are enslaved by their lessers and the leaders forced to sell out their convictions to the masses who care only for material gain. It debases not only the people in giving them an illusion of freedom but the rulers who must appease them by destroying their own convictions. Indeed Democracy runs on conformity.

Rejecting any remote Egalitarianism Communism and Socialism are seen as inheritors of Christian fallacy, blindly refuting God while maintaing a natural equality of men dependent upon him. Furthermore the refutation of history to economic forces is criticised as irrational and simplistic. With Agonocratic doctrine viewing history as growing progressively more individualistic as civilisation advances. Anarchism is a futility which will lead to the death of civilisation as the Herd will have no restraint on their depravity and eventually violently re-establish a new state. Capitalism is seen as a fundamentally irrational obsession with arbitrary wealth which stifles talent, culture and scientific advancement so long as a net profit remains. Its egalitarian undertones are also criticised, Capitalism inherently works for quantity over quality. Fascism is seen as the purest form of Herd rule and thus doomed to fail.

Now without further ado...

Agonocracy calls for the rule of society by a meritocratic intellectual-cultural elite, standing in no exact relation to the state but holding state-powers in their role as individuals. The modern state is replaced by a consortium of the best individuals, the leaders in society, some already risen to those positions and thusly appointed, others appointed from within the elite to those positions.

How are these elite to be selected? How shall the mighty task of measuring the worth of man be undertaken?

Primarily through Education, which in an Agonocracy is to be the only remaining bastion of the conventional "state". All children must be given an equal opportunity to succeed, to do this the destruction of the nuclear family is a necessary step to take, but one that should be taken slowly and is another topic altogether. What the principle matter is is that no amount of wealth, no race, no gender, nor parentage should undermine the education system. All are to be given a true equality of opportunity.However this equality is only to ensure total fairness of selection, from an early age those children possessing higher intelligence and charisma are to be singled out and eventually separated. They must be educated separately, with total instruction in their mission of governance, methods of governance and the highest degrees of education in other areas of science and culture. THESE DIVISIONS MUST REMAIN FLUID even when education is over, anyone who shows the spark of genius must be rewarded as such. Furthermore there must be some mechanism other than brute examination to select the great, a clearly talented artist, general or scientist must still be able to rise to the heights of power even if he or she did not undergo this education or necessarily pass an exam.

Once selected this ruling class will not draw their power from any constitution or fixed office. This merely leads to legalistic decline and stagnation. Instead they must act as stateless statesmen, an example may help to illustrate this. Consider Cecil Rhodes. He was not officially a state-vassal but wielded through his wealth which he deployed to political ends, the intellectual mastery he held over the magnates whose wealth he maneuvered to his schemes, he plans for a trans-African railway, his syndicates, his palace at Bulawayo, his armies, his road-systems and his conception of a duty to civilisation. An statesman standing in no relation to the state. Caesar too could be considered in this light, a man who struggled entirely in his own interests that happened to be unified with that of the Roman nation, Caesar fundamentally fought not for Rome but for Caesar. As did Pompey or Marius. One could even compare the present-day situation in Russia as a somewhat Agonocratic example of a network of private citizens, though not meritocratically selected as in an Agonocracy, but certainly wielding state like powers in individual persons.

This is where the 'struggle' element is brought in, examinations and lofty titles alone will not make greatness. It must be forged in the fires of contest and struggle, the less talented at statecraft will be outmaneuvered and destroyed thus allowing better individuals to rise and deploy their talents for the national good. Throughout history the greatest advancement has evolved through this, from the feuding city-states of Greece to the Roman Republic to the vengeful competing Empires of 18th century Europe to the struggle between Superpowers. Struggle between nations breeds progress. An Agonocracy is but a confederation of nations in the form of men. This serves other roles of course, it is hoped that through constant competition, no one man will be able to establish a tyranny or his equals in excellence will destroy him. If he succeeds in doing so then he is clearly their superior and better suited for office.

Through their cooperation (a mixture of mutual selfishness and hierarchical dominance) society is ordered. For example, in the matter of global warming, instead of trusting willful electorates and preening industrialists, individual scientists and experts in the field would be brought together in a concert with the masters of capital to establish a solution. Or in the issue of say, public transport, technically the trains may be run by a private company. However said company will be owned by a member of the elite who will, knowing he will have greater power for it, generously subsidise fares.

I shall mention now and throughout this pamphlet that the exact minutiae of the education system, methods of stratification and governance are not the concern of this pamphlet and will vary from people to people, state to state. Greater Mackonia, for example, maintains an Agonocracy through a tiered voting system, others may prefer an outright meritocratic dictatorship and others a more anarchistic interpretation. So long as they adhere to the fundamental tenants of the thought, of a meritocratic selection of an elite endowed with state-like powers in their individual person.

For the sake of simplicity Agonocracy can be summed up in this mantra "Anarchy for those who deserve it, dictatorship for those who need it." I suppose you could say that the 'utopian goal' of Agonocracy is that, through the inspiration of a new vanguard of the species, all will eventually be encouraged to intellectually improve themselves until there is little need for an elite or a state altogether. Alas this 'modern' interpretation of Agonocracy fails to understand its purpose. Maglos believed the fundamental flaw of political theory, indeed some would say philosophy in general, was its prioritization of nonexistent ends when it is the means that grant us true satisfaction. Agonocracy, rule by struggle, a struggle does not end.


Economic and Social Policy III



You're still reading? Goodness you must be bored. Before I conclude this misery a brief word on Agonocratic Economic and Social policy.

Agonocracy allows for remarkable flexibility in Economics, it is somewhat similar to corporatism, in so far as that the private owners of companies become state officials, similar to the 'national champions' of Russia. The ruling elite can be appointed to the head of nationalised corporations to run them for the national benefit, or the heads of corporations inducted into the elite. Either way, in Mackonia at least, Agonocracy seems to favour State Capitalism if it must adopt any economic system. Allowing private enterprise somewhat guided by "the state" in cooperation with state interests to find mutually beneficial solutions. A Command Economy could also work, the problem with Laissez faire Capitalism is that one cannot simultaneously run society on merit and wealth, the interests of which are often opposed.

Agonocracy can be confused for Anarcho-Capitalism easily when one mentions 'private individuals' as the principle controllers of the state, however one must remember they still fundamentally rise through a state like apparatus, that is education. Technically the services in an Agonocratic society are both wholly nationalised and entirely private, insofar as the state is a consortium of private individuals who are given control of the services. Regardless, the point is Agonocracy is not an ideology overly concerned with Economics.

Agonocracy is a very Socially-Liberal ideology, it abhors 'arbitrary prejudice' that is any sort of discrimination based on race, sexuality or gender. Although this could I suppose be down to cultural influences, an Agonocracy carried out in a socially-conservative country could very well have such prejudices, alas that would be somewhat missing the point of Agonocracy. While Agonocracy is vehemently opposed to Democracy it is fiercely protective of civil liberties, free speech and thought are to be avidly encouraged and defended. Indeed one could say, with its total lack of restrictions upon the intelligent in society, Agonocracy is far more "free" than many modern Democracies.

Agonocracy is seen as somewhat intrinsically Atheistic, however that could be more due to the religions dominant of the culture it emerged from and the fierce Atheism of its founder, certainly Agonocracy is diametrically opposed to Christianity and most other Abrahamic religions preaching altruism and obedience. I suppose other religions practiced in the NS and RL world would not be incompatible with it, it bares some philosophical similarities with certain Eastern Religions such as some less-metaphysical interpretations of Buddhism and Taoism. However it is best assumed religion and Agonocracy will usually be enemies.


Agonocracy Today IV

Agonocratic States
Greater Mackonia


Quasi-Agonocracy
Countries where Agonocratic ideas have a strong and active influence both politically and culturally,not explicitly Agonocratic and perhaps following some local variant thereof. Often includes states that either would not call themselves Agonocratic though the Mackonian Ideologues would consider them such, or would call themselves Agonocratic but the Mackonian Ideologues would not consider themselves such.

Phisych University-The 'Doctrine of Control' being considered by (at least the Mackonian branch) Agonocratic thinkers as merely an authoritarian "decayed" offshot of Agonocracy, Phisych University would be considered Quasi-Agonocratic. Members of the Phisychian Ruling class have been known to harbour silent appreciation of the thought.

New Frenco Empire-The successor state of the United States of America (I mean Mackonia exists in the current time frame but that does not say it won't stop existing by the 22nd century) has some Agonocratic elements, however ultimately these are more so done out of practical concerns than any grand ideological scheme. Like Phisych University the Empire would be considered significantly Agonocratic (its destruction of the nuclear family, meritocratic selection of governance and contempt for democracy) to be considered a 'Quasi-Agonocracy'. However its blatant hedonism, stagnant autocratic nature (Hightower being an immortal autocrat actively preventing struggle) and utilitarian social policies rule out any classification as a true Agonocracy. Agonocracy itself is not particularly well known in the Empire outside the bedrooms of edgy teenagers, the degenerative filth of internet image hosting sites and the pretenses of the puppet-aristocracy. Indeed surveillance seems to indicate Agonocracy is the subject of great mockery by the vast armies of keyboard warriors at the Empire's disposal. Any similarities are coincidental and Agonocracy as an ideology in itself does not explicitly hold any influence over the Empire.

Imyoji/Senyosu-A very hard one to classify. Imyoji certainly would not call itself an Agonocracy, it has no explicitly Agonocratic parties and on the face of it has a functioning parliamentary democracy. However the Imyonese state is staunchly meritocratic, the same party has essentially been in power since the founding of modern Imyoji (even the military dictatorship was fundamentally subscribant to the technocratic ideology just minus the political freedoms) and the culture is fiercely competitive. From what we have gathered Imyonese culture is certainly one sympathetic to Agonocracy. Thus we will reluctantly classify Imyoji as a Quasi-Agonocracy, the state is not explicitly Agonocratic and like the other nations listed here sees Meritocracy as a way to a perfect government not a perfect individual. It is blinded by utilitarianism and unquestioned past dogmas inherited from Confucianism, however it shares enough characteristics of the Agonocracy to be considered at least somewhat Agonocratic. Maybe eventually Imyoji's political freedoms will corrode and in the face of some charismatic Caesar of the East an Agonocracy will rise, but this is unlikely.

Ashkera-The Movement hath decided to place Ashkera into the Quasi-Agonocratic category due to several similarities between itself and the Ashkeran government style. Ashkera's government of a secretive and selective elite rings true in the hearts of many of The Movement, however like other 'Technocratic' nations it still sees individuals as a tool of the state, not the other way round, thus distinguishing it from Agonocracy. The Ashkeran government maintains too many aspects of Oldthink Formalism and is thus doomed to the sorry fate of Democratic-Materialism. The Movement itself is known among the Ashkeran ruling class and supported by a small minority, furthermore, a small armed section of The Movement are carrying out armed struggle within Ashkera. The Committee of Revolutionary Propagation advises that while some level of comradely support to this 'Strife State' is began to maintain its existence, The Movement would be better served by concentrating its efforts on winning over the already anti-Democratic Ashkeran ruling class. Furthermore Ashkera could prove to be a useful ally to the Mackonian Meritocracy (who ultimately fund out activities). Funds are to be directed to spreading propaganda among the Ashkeran elite via education, manipulation and stygian arts.
UPDATE: It has come to the attention of The Movement that Ashkera once had a significantly powerful Agonocratic faction led by Tatsuno Katsuo. Incorporating some aspects of the native Ashkeran religion, Katsuo was a powerful force in Ashkera during the civil war there until his execution by GAJRA in 1935 and the subsequent splintering of the group. Agonocracy is deemed sufficiently dangerous by the Ashkeran government to be heavily censored in public, though this is extended to almost all ideological systems. Given how the Ashkeran establishment already practices elitism meritocracy, The Movement has little in the way of persuasion for Ashkerans, the old would be repulsed by the memories of The Path of Struggle, the young largely find the notions of The Movement either banal and obvious (like meritocracy) or ludicrously exaggerated (like egoism), having already all the benefits of a meritocratic state. However there are rumoured to be some sympathetic voices within the Technocracy's ranks. The Movement had a brief renaissance led by a mysterious Mr Bernard during the 70s which vanished. Tatsuno Katsuo is venerated as a hero in Greater Mackonia.

Blackwing Coast - Blackwing Coast is very similar to Agonocracy in its government which like it is largely meritocratic with anarchistic competition between individuals. What distinguishes it from Agonocracy is that there is still a fixed form of sovereign authority in the figure of the person called Shinra, who ultimately stands outside of the system of struggle and advancement. Blackwing Coast is seen in the same light as most 'primitive Agonocracies' who have a very Agonocratic power structure but within unjust systems, but which are beautiful none the less.


Leaning
Countries containing Agonocratic movements or factions with strong support from the populace or ruling class.Certainly not Agonocratic and if anything is likely to be taking steps to stamp out Agonocratic influence.

Tyrandel-Agonocracy enjoys significant support in Tyrandel, its main proponants being the 'Natural Aristocratic Society',holding 13 of 27 seats in the Representative council, who (initially a progressive socialist movement, which would fit in with Agonocratic theories about the historic progression of ideology) in 2015 declared themselves to be an Agonocratic Party. The society takes a notedly anti-Capitalist stance and is far more collectivistic than Mackonian Agonocracy. However it is Agonocracy all the same, in the Confederation of Princes Agonocratic ideas have intrigued some members of the ruling class. Tyrandel is seen by Greater Mackonia as a natural ally under an Agonocracy and Mackonian funds, advisers,propagandists and agents have been disptached to aid the Agonocratic cause there.

Allancia-The Movement found support among the Allancian military and political elite during the second half of the 20th century, with many seeing it as a nobler and more developed variation on the ideals of the Allancian state which were proving to have less than satisfactory results in their brutality. Several regional governors are loyal to the ideals of The Movement and profess and 24 of the 94 members of the influential Reichsrat are self-declared Agonocrats, given the authoritarian nature of Allancia there is reason to suspect many more could hold allegiance to The Movement in secrecy. Agonocratic ideals have influenced Allancian policies on education and contributed to the elimination of racial laws in the country, a noble achievement for The Movement. It is recommended that The Movement concentrate its powers on spreading and sustaining its influence upon the higher castes of Allancian society if it wishes for further success there.

Philipine bayan - The Movement exercises a considerable degree of influence upon the military and political paramilitary Aklan-KK. The venerable leader ching-chong's is also apparently influenced by the Truth in the direction and goals of his recent reforms towards a 'merit-based society'. The Philipine Bayan can thus be identified as Agonocratic leaning in the satisfactory current direction of its politics.


Active and Aware
Countries where Agonocracy is known of but not particularly or only moderately popular,ranging from fringe groups to moderately successful Agonocratic parties. At least some Agonocratic organisation is active in the nation.

New Alsatia-The Alsatian Royal Family seem to consider themselves Agonocrats and indeed one could argue they practice the 'struggle' part of it, believing themselves to be just another faction and inviting others to try and destroy them. Alas Alsatia shows very little other Agonocratic characteristics, indeed the presence of a Monarchy is almost anti-thetical to Agonocracy, the parties which do advocate Agonocracy include one which seems to follow it to the 't' and another which does not really seem to understand what Agonocracy is, trying to synthesise it with Objectivism and Christianity, two ideas fundamentally opposed to Agonocracy.

The Batorys -Apparently the Movement is popular among the youth, upon researching this all that could be discerned was a mass of really, really awful poetry. A certain 'Lady Ozymandia' claimed to be the leader of the Movement within the territories of the Batorys, however she swiftly broke off contact...apparently because representatives of the Movement had not used her 'correct personal pronouns'. This remains a mystery to us. Generally speaking the Agonocratic Movement in The Batorys is irrelevant and should not be considered a serious movement at all, best allow these adolescent twerps to go and get exterminated by themselves.

Darussalam-Glorious Order of the Winged Sun use Zoroastrian Jew-Magic and liberal use of assault rifles to spread Agonocracy. The Order, an organisation originally set up to protect the rights of religious minorities in Darussalam and has since evolved into a principle enemy of the Darussian establishment, has recently adopted Agonocracy. The Order are a venerable and powerful new ally of the movement and should not only be offered support but perhaps could be convinced to become the...principle organ of...international revolutionary export-operations. Alongside the Order two separate organisations (possibly fronts of the Order) advocate Agonocracy. The first, the National Council for Enlightenment and Renewal, the Darussian Sakystrumaar ('Sakystrumaar' literally means 'Enlightened Renewal' in Old Cyrmalthic so I'm just going to call the Council the Darussian Sakystrumaar just as I call the Auskral group the Auskral Sakystrumaar), advocate a pragmatically softened Agonocratic doctrine, which is understandable given the ignorance of the population, and some band of socialist riff-raff who are in fact (according to our sources) secretly lead by loyal members of 'The Movement'. It is believed that seventy out of six-hundred seats in the legislature are held by men loyal to the Movement. Despite the Movement's strong power-base in Darussalam through the Order and their puppets, The Movement remains fundamentally detested by all the reigning powers in Darussalam and the ignorant masses, for this reason Darussalam cannot yet be classified as 'leaning'. Future advances are advised to be done through clandestine channels.

TURTLESHROOM II-With TurtleShroomer democracy in a state of slow death many groups have begun to turn their eyes to alternate systems of governance warranting a small amount of interest in Agonocracy. Alas TurtleShroomer faith has not entered a similar state of decay and serves as the principle bulwark against any attempts to establish an Agonocracy in TurtleShroom. The Society of International Agonocracy and the Commissariat of External Interests both predict Agonocracy will not gain much ground in TS and if it does it will have to be perverted beyond imagination. Rumor has it that several members of the TurtleShroomer clergy of all people secretly express interest in Agonocratic doctrine. This vessel of support is not to be treated lightly or with contempt, if there is anyway to influence TS it is through its church and one must remember that in feudalistic societies the church is often the monopolist of education. It is suspected that as part of Anti-Black Spear operations in the Time of Troubles (OOC: The Mackonian term for the period from Sikasith's Death to the Valentine Revolution) involved aiding clerical opposition to the Thizathkal Horde which may have been the source of this Agonocratic sentiment. To conclude, any future efforts to expand the movement in TurtleShroom should be focused on the clergy, not on the corporations who are inevitably only driven by urge for capitalistic profit.

Singaporean Transhumans-There is little real Agonocratic presence in the Transhumans beyond government-run 'experimentation', experimentation The Movement does not particularly approve of. However five self-governing districts of a sort have adopted the Truth and some of the elite have allegedly taken an interest in it, but there is little need for The Movement to expand there.

The United Colonies of Earth - In the distant future generations of men re-discover the works of a titanic thinker of the early 21st century internet forums. The Movement has found sympathisers among a group of hardliners known as the 'Merit Club', but is still generally treated with hostility by popular opinion and the government. Is steadily becoming well known, unfortunately, everyone in Mackonia is long dead by now, and cannot do much to help.

Living Stones - The Movement is not active here, but there are apparently sporadic instances of activity which are ruthlessly crushed by the spiritual police. Movement important enough to be pondered alongside the reigning ideology in analytical circles anyway.


Unaware
Countries with no remote knowledge of the glories of Agonocracy.
-Alizeria: Alizeria is rather oblivious to the Movement and further progress is unlikely.
-Kravanica: The glories of the Movement have yet to reach Kravanica though similarities between it and the Technocratic system of rule is noted.
-Themicleisa: Themiclesia is a nation able to marshal such a vast and ancient cultural heritage any attempts to spread the Movement is futile. The very basic ideas of the Movement are alien to this culture. Expansion of the Movement into Themiclesia would be a largely futile effort.


Opposed
Countries where the government considers Agonocracy a mortal foe and has taken steps to destroy any Agonocratic organisations or ideas within the country. Probably contains or did contain a sizable Agonocratic minority to warrant such oppression.

Ardoki-glorious national-sociali-progressivism,stronk,remove cishet individualist pig-dogs, hail the volksgemeinschaft.

Akwenisia-Banned like all parties in Akwenisia.

Blakullar (Mechanocratic Russia): Their glorious leader seems to think he struggled to get where he is now but apart from that the Mechanocracy has few Agonocratic traits and The Movement would most likely get crushed there by the vast police state. The Movement is to consider the New Frenco Empire a preferable candidate for Enlightenment than the Mechanocracy within their universe.

Aterria - Neigh unheard of, was targeted during some kind of Anti-Right Wing purge during the 1930s and has never recovered.



Thusfar Agonocracy has only been implemented in Greater Mackonia and its adherents do not expect it to grow much beyond the shores of those sceptered marshes as much as it would be pleasing for it to do so. Agonocracy rejects revolution, seeing its doctrine as inherently opposed to popular movements and thus viewing any popular uprising in favour of an Agonocratic faction to be wishful-thinking, instead it advocates the best way to convert nations to Agonocracy is to tempt the ruling elites with the idea and entertain the gradual implementation of Agonocracy.

Well dear reader you have endured reading this drivel which almost certainly could not possibly represent the real views of the author. No,no,no what on earth could drive you to those conclusions. As a reward here are some forms for you to fill out about Agonocracy in your nation. Please any remote kind of feedback is welcomed, by all means have Agonocratic Parties or Movements in your nation! Have it banned! Have it perverted beyond belief like Marxism in North Korea! Have its followers rounded up and shot for all I care...maybe even adopt it for yourself, though I doubt that. Hooray for forms!

General Agonocracy in your nation form

Code: Select all
[b]Nation Name (IC):[/b]
[b]Government Type:[/b]
[b]Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?:[/b]
[b]When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s):[/b]
[b]If so how popular are they?:[/b]
[b]If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?:[/b]
[b]Do they hold any seats in the legislature?:[/b]
[b]Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*:[/b]
[b]What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?:[/b]
[b]What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?:[/b]
[b]What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?:[/b]
[b]Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?:[/b]
[b]Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?:[/b]
[b]If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country:[/b]

[sub]*Note: I will only consider it a legitimately separate branch of ideology if I personally see a noted difference from, yet influence of, Agonocratic ideas. Not just Agonocracy with your despot of the week's name stuck in front of it. If it bares no difference from normal Agonocracy I will count it as such and if it bares no resemblance I will count it as something else. You are free to delete this note, indeed I implore you to do so.[/sub]

Form for Agonocratic states.
Code: Select all
[b]Is your nation an Agonocracy (if "No" then why the hell have you copied out this form? You great multi-appendaged, supine monster.):[/b]
[b]How did your nation become an Agonocracy?:[/b]
[b]Who is the leader of the Agonocratic movement in your nation?:[/b]
[b]Is Agonocracy popular among the populace?:[/b]
[b]Does your nation practice orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof?:[/b]
[b]If a local variant please describe the differences?:[/b]
[b]Would your nation be interested in economic or military alliance with Greater Mackonia?:[/b]
[b]Would your nation be interested in joining a political union with Greater Mackonia?:[/b]
[b]Describe the brief history of Agonocracy in your nation:[/b]



Last edited by Greater Mackonia on Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:26 am, edited 14 times in total.
The Agonocracy of Greater Mackonia
"Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser."
-Donald J. Trump.

User avatar
Phisych University
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1001
Founded: Oct 21, 2012
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Phisych University » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:42 pm

Nation Name (IC): Phisych University.
Government Type: Phisychian Technocracy.
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: Well, Nicholas Phisych would claim his ideology is different, and superior, but people still make comparisons. In truth, Agonocracy appeals to certain groups within the Phisychian upper class that aren't fond of Nicholas himself and his statism, but think his ideals of meritocracy and intellect are quite appreciable. They wouldn't have any formal name or structure, since the police state of Phisych University would try to have them shot for it. It's more of a common opinion held by some high ranking individuals that they discuss when trading research notes.
When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): Phisych University was founded in the 1960s, but the opinion likely became popular among upper circles around the early 2000s.
If so how popular are they?: ... Well, you presumably read the part where they might get shot if they
If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: HAHAHAHAHA! You're a funny person.
Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: Surprisingly... Yes. These men may not be popular, nor even elected, but they are among the elite and, as such, do stand in places where laws are made. That being said, they don't have many seats as there isn't many of them among the elite.
Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*: They're ideology is really just Phisych's Doctrine of Control except with MUCH more class mobility and without the romanticized view of totalitarianism and statism as Phisych put it. The snobbish intellectualism of said Doctrine of Control is still held quite dearly by these individuals, as well as the ideals of meritocracy, Command Economics and disdain for equality, democracy and such as. However, as far as the members themselves are involved, they will, quietly, call themselves Agonocrats nonetheless. Which is somewhat true since some Agonocratic ideals such as a rigid defense of social liberty is held quite dearly and is a radical position to take in the oppressive atmosphere of Phisychianism.
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: Minimal. There is a presence, which is a feat since most ideologies don't make it that far, but it is minimal.
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: The populace of Phisych University has come to despise most ideologies that describe themselves as elitist, since they chafe so much under the current elitist ideology. However, they may see it as a little better since it would give each of them a slight chance of escaping their current circumstances and State Capitalism would likely provide much more material comfort that the University's massive, class-discriminatory Command Economy currently does.
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: Mixed. The government is run by the creator of the Doctrine of Control, Agonocracy is based on Z. Maglos's ideals. Anything they'd agree on, the government would tip it's hat in approval of. Anything they'd disagree on, the government would scowl upon with righteous control-freak-fury.
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: The government takes measures against anyone who might interfere or alter Nicholas Phisych's vision of an ideal society. While Agonocrats aren't specifically targeted, they are included, yes. although, not as much as others since they agree a lot with current Phisychian policy and know when to keep their mouths shut when needed.
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: No. Not yet.
If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country: It really began around the early 2000s when the internet allowed some individuals to find the Doctrine of Control, and some of the ideologues that responded to it. Members of the upper class, who despised Nicholas, but appreciated a number of his ideas, read Maglos's response and soon indulged themselves in his work. In truth, they did not call themselves Agonocrats until the 2010s, when Mackonia fell under an Agonocracy and the name and identity of the ideology was finally espoused. Until then, they just called themselves endorsers of Maglosian thought.
The Glorious State of Intellectuals!
(Disregard the damn, ignorant plebs!)

I'll let you determine the answer to that.

User avatar
New Frenco Empire
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7784
Founded: Mar 14, 2013
Libertarian Police State

Postby New Frenco Empire » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:47 pm

Nation Name (IC): The New Frenco Empire
Government Type: Meritocratic, Technocratic Autocracy (some people just call it "Hightowerism" to save themselves from uttering all that, although that isn't the official title)
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: Some of the technocrats in the Imperial Tower like to think that they, as the elite, are the state. This is, however, without ever realizing that they're just puppets of the Whips, who are in turn puppets of the Emperor and the Chancellor, who are in turn puppets of the Chairman. However, no clear organization exists for these rather misguided thinkers.
When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): N/A
If so how popular are they?: N/A
If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: N/A
Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: I'm just going to say a considerable minority of those in the Common Council hold similar opinions.
Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*: N/A
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: Surprisingly, quite a few like to hold such ideals. In a society like the Empire, they rose from the same breeding tubes as everyone else to tower over their brothers and sisters. They are what make this Empire great! They are the Empire! Of course...many who hold opinions like these got their Common Council forms rejected because Hightower Plaza doesn't consider owning a restaurant chain (no matter how successful) to be quality governor material.
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: "Hey, we have something just like that! It's called 'masturbation'!" The internet was then filled with DeviantArt drawings of Emperor Zane making out with his android double labeled "New Frenco Agnocracy".
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: No clear-cut opinion on the ideology itself, as it's mostly just an internet phenomena originating from a few shady sources. Of course, depending on how you interpret things, the Empire could be seen as the purest form of Agnocracy (since a single elite, born from obscurity, basically rose up, carved himself an empire and then made himself immortal so he could continue his ambition long after death) or the absolute bane of the system (the elite are puppets and can never really expect anything better).
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: Not exactly. You wouldn't typically describe any person or group worthy of "state intervention" as "Agnocratic". That wouldn't be the first word, at least.
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: The above applies.
If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country:
Just a few months ago, an anonymous poster on the rather infamous Frenkish conspiracy theory website "DataBattles.net" posted about a strange government system that came "from the lands of the lizard" and that the Frenkish government would soon be adopting it. Of course, he also added that this meant the common man would be thrown into concentration camps set up by local fast food chains and that Imperial Tower would be infecting the water supply with a drug that makes it's victims see Eddie Murphy playing an Elvis impersonator, but all that's beyond the point.

It quickly became what one could call a "meme". For some reason, most internet-dwelling Frenks find the legend hilarious and often write crossover fanfictions of it with Sonic the Hedgehog and Dragonball Z.

That's it, really...I know.
NEW FRENCO EMPIRE

Transferring information from disorganized notes into presentable factbooks is way too time consuming for a procrastinator. Just ask if you have questions.
Plutocratic Evil Empire™ situated in a post-apocalyptic Decopunk North America. Extreme PMT, yet socially stuck in the interwar/immediate post-war era, with Jazz music and flapper culture alongside nanotechnology and Martian colonies. Tier I power of the Frencoverse.


Las Palmeras wrote:Roaring 20s but in the future and with mutants

Alyakia wrote:you are a modern poet
Top Hits of 2132! (Imperial Public Radio)
Coming at you from Fort Orwell! (Imperial Forces Network)



User avatar
Tyrandel
Envoy
 
Posts: 328
Founded: Oct 26, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Tyrandel » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:52 pm

Nation Name (IC): The Almighty Tyrandel Sovereignty
Government Type: Aristocratic Caesaropaptist Dictatorship
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: The Natural Aristocratic Society
When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): Originally founded in 2002 as a schismatic group from the Social Progress Alliance, a group of Progressives and Democratic Socialists. The Natural Aristocratic Society openly embraced Agonocratic elements in 2015.
If so how popular are they?: Moderately popular. Enough of the elite support it for it to be a political force, but not enough to make it dominant.
If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: No Elections
Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: 13 out of 27 Representatives to the Princely Council are members of the N.A. Society. No members of the Castellan Council support the N.A. Society.
Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*: While some support orthodox Agonocracy, the majority support a localized variant more acceptable to Tyrandel's ruling class. The major difference is that the localized variant, usually referred to as the Excellence Theory when called anything, retains elements of the hierarchical collectivism historically favored by Tyrandelian intellectuals.
The (Excellent) State remains the sole origin of socio-political power in the Excellence Theory. However, an Excellent State would be composed entirely of individuals judged worthy (or Excellent) by their peers and operate in a far more meritocratic way than the current highly aristocratic system, granting power and responsibility based upon an individual's intellect and experience rather than the deeds of their ancestors. Excellence Theory agrees entirely with orthodox Agonocracy on matters of Education as well as Social Policy, with a particular emphasis on opposing discrimination on the grounds that it could scare away potential valuable individuals, but disagrees vehemently on Economics. Excellence Theory, like most Tyrandelian political theory, views private enterprise as nothing more than the legitimatization of criminal groups and views corporations in the same light they view the Mafia or Yakuza: A threat to the security of both the State and the People. It considers Capitalism to be an inherently corrupting force, directly antithetical to independent thought and independent morality due to its social manipulation and attempted replacement of all other moral systems by the profit principal. Therefore, it cannot be permitted to exist in Tyrandel.
Arguments occur frequently over the place of the Dragons in a possible future Agonocratic/Excellent Tyrandel, some supporting them remaining as major political forces while others wish for them to become figureheads. Those who wish to overthrow them rarely survive their comrades' attentions long enough to be caught by the State.
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: Influential in the Confederation of Princes, especially the Northern Provinces. Moderate influence in the rest of the Confederation, little influence in the Imperial Territories.
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: As with most things related to politics, the average peasant cares more about the food on his table than his leaders.
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: Valmrasserine, Dragon ruler of the Imperial Territories and officially Tyrandel as a whole, does not approve. Belutukijarn, Dragon ruler of the Confederation of Princes, is intrigued (though not publicly supportive) and has sought an audience with many members of the N.A. Society. It is said he has also recruited many advisers from the society. The Imperial Castellans are extremely opposed, while the Confederate Princes and Nobles are divided between apprehensively neutral and cautiously supportive.
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: Not officially.
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: A bomb went off in a Natural Aristocratic Society local branch in Vakoshu Province, known for its extreme Nationalism. It is suspected this was done as a threat, but probably more against the 'importation of foreign ideals' than the actual substance of the ideology.
If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country: Originally, around 1960, the Social Progress Alliance (precursor of the N.A. Society) was a major power and the primary supportive of both socialism and capitalism in Tyrandel. Eventually, arguments between the Progressives and Democratic Socialists resulted in the Social Progress Alliance dissolving into three factions: The People's Front, a democratic socialist group eventually destroyed by the government; the Future Society, composed of the more capitalist and technocratic Progressives and a current political pariah due to both its support of international capitalism and support of eugenics; and the Natural Aristocratic Society, composed of the more socialist and meritocratic Progressives. The Progressive Socialism of the Natural Aristocratic Society eventually degenerated/evolved into ideals sympathetic to Agonocracy, cemented when the N.A. Summit of 2015 declared itself in support of Agonocracy.
Last edited by Tyrandel on Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
TURTLESHROOM II
Minister
 
Posts: 2693
Founded: Dec 08, 2014
Moralistic Democracy

Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:19 pm

Nation Name (IC): Kingdom of the United Turtles, Mushrooms, and Men of TurtleShroom

Government Type:
DE JURE: Constitutional, Guided Theodemocratic Triumvirate Monarchy.

DE FACTO: Corpocratic, oligarchic banana state with a ceremonial monarchy.



Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation: The Intercontinental Coalition of Enlightened Aristocrats United for Struggling Demenses (ICEAUSD) was founded on February 13th, 2015 AD. It has twelve members representing minor oil players, minor publishing agencies, three PMCs, and the largest manufacturer of doilies and lace in the country.

When were they founded: February 13th, 2015 AD

If so how popular are they?: They only have twelve men. Rich as they are, they are not very powerful. Agonocracy has fertile ground in rejecting democracy and promoting merit and uplifting of geniuses, but it is inherently antithetical to religion and TS traditions.

If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: N/A

Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: N/A

What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: TurtleShroom

What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy: It is antithetical to Christianity. More pro-Christian ideologies like Shutai (TS' warped version of Juche), TS Ohankism, theocratic hard-dominionism, and classic fascism are all embraced much more easily than an existentialist doctrine that emphasizes self above all else and greed, which are two traits considered antonyms to TurtleShroomer culture.

What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy: The government obviously despises it because Mackonia and the non-humans (and eventually the humans, too) have been rivals before the actual TurtleShroomer state existed. Even in the days of the unbelieving Khanates, turtles and mushrooms were raided by Cyzarri and sacked for the Lulz by Macks who wanted their riches over their dusty land and thick jungles. (Mackonia had enough jungles and swamps to take more.) That said, Agonocracy was implemented in TurtleShroom during Black Spear occupation, and it didn't affect or lessen the power of the Church. In fact, the most intelligent of clergymen were able to use the "anarchy for the enlightened, dictatorship for the losers" idea to organize the Church into a parallel government to resist invasion. The immeasurable success of these elites who willingly humbled themselves to servants made closet Agonocrats out of several high ranking pastors and clerics, but they cannot fully embrace it because while it makes them successful as individuals, it puts them in front of God, which is an ultimate sin for the ordained.

Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation: They can't. Agonocracy is a legitimate political ideology that does not require allegiance to Mackonia and does not endanger the people or the Church's position. (Even if it did those two things, it'd still be legal.) That falls under "criticism of the government" and is a fundamental, untouchable right.

Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation: Although the Black Spear are not true Agonocrats, their implementation of Mack law on southern TS became very, very similar to Agonocracy when their authoritarian structure decayed in the face of Church and general TS resistance.

If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country: See above.
Last edited by TURTLESHROOM II on Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:37 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Jesus loves you and died for you!
World Factbook
First Constitution
Legation Quarter
"NOOKULAR" STOCKPILE: 821,333. General Long denied access.
RWHS wrote:
BF wrote:Especially when we have the annual stormfront migrations.

Nothing wrong with [that] when you have year round tumblr attendance.
DEFCON: Suspended.
Second Constitutional Convention pending.
News ticker (updated 1/31/2018 AD):
FINAL DEATH TOLL: 1001993 rioters, 101342 soldiers, 9112 cops, 311500 civilians (includes foreign intervention)
PEACE AT LAST: TURTLESHROOM CIVIL WAR ENDS ON OCTOBER 12TH, 2018 AD, FIRST TURTLESHROOMIAN STATE DISSOLVED

User avatar
Greater Mackonia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5085
Founded: Sep 13, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:40 am

Status updated, NFE and Phisych University have both been categorised as Quasi-Agonocracies due to the strong resemblance of both countries' power structures to that of an Agonocracy. Tyrandel has been classified as 'Leaning' as I think having almost half the seats in the legislature and the interest of one powerful local ruler counts as 'strong influence'. TurtleShroom has been placed as 'Aware'. However I am confused as to how the Black Spear fit in with the Church becoming influenced by Agonocratic ideals. The only similarity I can see is that Eloith Huleeja's one-man colonialism in TurtleShroom was something of a prototype of the 'stateless staesman' heralded by the Sakystumaar (Huleeja and the remnants of the Horde later joined Mythurin and led the coup in his name).
The Agonocracy of Greater Mackonia
"Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser."
-Donald J. Trump.

User avatar
Blakullar
Senator
 
Posts: 4495
Founded: Sep 07, 2012
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Blakullar » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:22 am

Nation Name (IC): Mechanocratic Russia/The Mechanocracy of Russia (either works).
Government Type: Authoritarian communist oligarchy.
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: Any political parties aside from the ruling one (that would be the Communist Union of Mechanocratic Russia) are banned. Grand Curator Prokhor Stahlrim, however, likes to see himself as somebody who rules through fighting his way to the top (even if he doesn't and his election, like that of the previous GCs, was engineered by OTAN).
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: As previously mentioned, Stahlrim views himself as what is effectively an agonocrat.
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: The people think that their rulers are respectable, polite human beings, but the state is actually much less ordered than it appears on the outside. Then again, when you have a huge, seething, bureaucratic clusterfuck trying to run any country (much less one as enormously complex as Mechanocratic Russia), infighting is almost certain.
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: Both inside and outside, the government espouses bitter hatred towards any ideology that does not ride on the hard-left. The difference is on the inside, everybody is too terrified to speak their minds lest they incur the wrath of the Grand Curator! (This fear is also, paradoxically, what keeps the government unified: if Stahlrim were to suddenly disappear without being quickly replaced by someone of his exact calibre, the government would descend into [further] chaos in the blink of an eye.)
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: Stahlrim would certainly like to see his underlings try to take him on! In practice, however, it's the government that wields ALL of the power in the nation - and, more importantly, if OTAN gets fed up with him and wants him out, there would be literally nothing he could do about it.
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: Stahlrim has a reputation for being incredibly violent towards anybody who he considers an annoyance. This means just about anybody he comes across: combine his insanity, paranoia and questionable sense of humour with his total lack of any facial expression whatsoever (he is an android) and you get a genuinely unpredictable character who tries to chat you up and then tries to kill you with a plastic fork in the space of ten seconds.
☭ ☭ ☭ MECHANOCRATIC RUSSIA ☭ ☭ ☭
From the dilettante who brought you Worlds Asunder!

Part of the Frencoverse. ☭
Did you know I'm also a website?

NS stats not included.
Yes, I am real. Send help.

User avatar
Greater Mackonia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5085
Founded: Sep 13, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:55 am

...So essentially the Vozhd is an Agonocrat while everyone else thinks he is a Communist or am I getting the wrong end of the stick.
The Agonocracy of Greater Mackonia
"Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser."
-Donald J. Trump.

User avatar
Blakullar
Senator
 
Posts: 4495
Founded: Sep 07, 2012
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Blakullar » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:00 am

Greater Mackonia wrote:...So essentially the Vozhd is an Agonocrat while everyone else thinks he is a Communist or am I getting the wrong end of the stick.

He IS a Communist, but he likes to think that he got to his position by fighting for it and often uses violence to prevent (what he believes to be) others from trying to get there. In other words, he behaves like an agonocrat in his daily dealings with his peers.
☭ ☭ ☭ MECHANOCRATIC RUSSIA ☭ ☭ ☭
From the dilettante who brought you Worlds Asunder!

Part of the Frencoverse. ☭
Did you know I'm also a website?

NS stats not included.
Yes, I am real. Send help.

User avatar
Greater Mackonia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5085
Founded: Sep 13, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:46 am

Blakullar wrote:
Greater Mackonia wrote:...So essentially the Vozhd is an Agonocrat while everyone else thinks he is a Communist or am I getting the wrong end of the stick.

He IS a Communist, but he likes to think that he got to his position by fighting for it and often uses violence to prevent (what he believes to be) others from trying to get there. In other words, he behaves like an agonocrat in his daily dealings with his peers.


The Mechanocracy just seems like a plain old communist dictatorship then, so I guess I'll put it in the 'Opposed' group.
The Agonocracy of Greater Mackonia
"Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser."
-Donald J. Trump.

User avatar
Darussalam
Minister
 
Posts: 2199
Founded: May 15, 2012
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Darussalam » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:18 pm

Nation Name (IC):
the Shahdom of Darussalam

Government Type:
De jure theocratic absolute monarchy, however in actuality the Shah as the monarch has limited powers even beyond the current era of Regency, not by any constitution but instead an ancient system of tangled, chaotic bureaucracy and powerful factions that murderously rivaled against each-other attempting to tempt the Shah to each of their platform.

Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?:
Order of the Winged Sun, a secret society, and the organisations below it especially its official political wing, the Coalition of National Enlightenment and Renewal.

When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s):
Early 12th C.E, although they adopted agonocratic ideology as early as 2013 C.E marked by the foundation of the Coalition.

If so how popular are they?
The populace only knows the Order through its many facades and only a few crazed conspiracy-theorists correctly deem them to intertwine to each other. The Order itself is known as 'Lashkar-e Nur' (Army of Light), a mysterious criminal syndicate responsible in terrorising fundamentalist sermons, robbery, racketeering, drug and human trafficking, political assassinations, extortion, prostitution, protections of non-Muslim communities etc. It's romanticised by the non-Muslim populace (more than a third of Darussians) as the knights of their freedom, while vilified by general Muslim populace as the scapegoat and boogeyman, and rumoured to infiltrate the bureaucracy "with all of these damned reforms and what-not".

Meanwhile the Revolutionary People's Army, the militant wing of the Order secretly masquerading as a populist communist insurrection group, was very popular in its operational areas for their charitable works, although their slaughtering of religious clerics are noted as concerning. Likewise, the Coalition of National Enlightenment and Renewal, a small but growing in number political party and charity organisation, while as aforementioned is whispered to be related with the Army of Light for similarly subtly advocating republicanism and secular humanism, has also gained considerable support from Darussians for its vague populist-sounding platforms.

If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?
Elections are local, the central government does not hold elections.

Do they hold any seats in the legislature?:
the Coalition gained fifteen seats in the Assembly of the Masses. Many other assemblymen were also related with the Order despite not being the Coalition member, and if counted they numbered around seventy from total six hundreds seats, making them one of the largest (although similarly irrelevant) political voices in Darussalam other than the reactionary faction, liberal democrats and modernist conservatives.

Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*:
The Coalition advocated a... watered-down version of Agonocracy and does not call it such, instead creatively calling it 'Ideal of National Enlightenment and Renewal'. It's public platform emphasized more modernisation of the realm, greater tolerance and equal opportunity to the non-Muslims, opposition of democracy and establishment of a meritocratic aristocracy instead of radical state atheism and oceans of insults to the Irrelevant Herd.

The Revolutionary People's Army is radically socialist, although its inner members are Agonocrats and couldn't care less about the masses, the ideology of socialism is used merely to rally the masses under their rule against the Old Order.

The Order adhered to a more orthodox version of Agonocracy, shedding away all pretenses of caring the masses and operating in a system of competitive individuals, although still liberally syncretise Mr. Maglos' thoughts with their ancient teachings. It also emphasizes more anti-monarchism and anti-religious aspects as 'the ones that poison the Individual and the Nation' and relatively uncaring of the ideology's orthodoxy as long as the end justifies the means, as evidenced by two of the Order's puppets above.

What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?:
The Order, being a secret society based in elite class, enjoyed considerable support from many of its members, although opposed by especially the religious and military elite. Its political representation is rather small compared to other factions.

What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?:
Negative, being viewed as inherently opposed with egalitarian Islamic values and. Even the moderate one as advocated by the Coalition is still viewed with suspicion and only supported by a few from urbanised elements of the society.

What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?:
The same as the popular opinion, see above. The government's suspicion increased after Mackonian Civil Wars, and the Agonocrats or those who espouse similar ideologies may potentially face persecutions or explusion.

Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?:
Obviously, many of Coalition's members are being jailed or executed in accusation of various crimes such as inciting anti-monarchist hatred, inciting hatred in general, or related with crimes committed by Lashkar-e Nur. Clashes often occur between the Order's members, be they socialist rebels or members of the Lashkar, and military and the police force. These attempts largely fail however, and the Coalition penetrate further into the government.

Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?:
- Numerous criminal activities of the Order, even before its adoption of Agonocratic ideals, are committed in similar ideologies. Instances include political assassinations into less political crimes committed to fund the Order.
- Socialist insurrectionary activities secretly funded by the Order, the greatest of it being the Great Insurrection in 1918 C.E.

If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country:
The Order of the Winged Sun was founded in early 12th C.E by a group of wealthy Zoroastrians and Jews, referred today as the 'Twelve Fathers', to defend the economic, political and religious interest of non-Muslims that were repressed by the medieval Darussian state. It demanded the maintenance of the right of non-Muslims to self-rule, equality of non-Muslims and Muslims alike before law and in selections for political offices, and opposition in discrimination conducted by Muslim trade officials against non-Muslim merchants in the bazaars. Originally only consisted of a few elite class hailed from Zoroastrian and Jewish communities, the membership later grew to include members from other faiths, include sympathetic Muslims.

During 19th Century C.E in the advent of European-originated radical ideals to Darussalam, the Order underwent a massive upheaval. The conservative faction, while accepting of the "new" radical values of liberalism, was cautious of it as it was a challenge to their powers--many of them being wealthy landowners and clergymen--and might caused worse conflicts with the reactionary Muslim populace. However the radical faction demanded otherwise. They demanded the overthrowing of the ruling monarchy, which they viewed as illegitimate, and instead concepted the rule of enlightened aristocracy regardless of social class that will benefit the masses and the nation. They also questioned the old religious values and strive to abolish them. The schism ended when the conservative Grandmaster of the Order was slain by the latter group, and the conservatives dispersed, thus turning the Order into fanatically laicite.

While the Order viewed socialism with contempt, it also viewed the ideology as a potential way to expand its powers. Thus the organisation began to massively fund communist insurrection groups in resistance against the monarchy and the old order in early 20th C.E, with the peak during the Great Insurrection in 1918 C.E when the Sultan was killed and a short-lived (as in three-hours long short) revolutionary committee was proclaimed, but yet it also failed. A few of said socialist groups still remain until today and very much active, merged in 2013 C.E as the Revolutionary People's Army of Darussalam. At this point, the Order of the Winged Sun has embraced an ideology espoused by an obscure Mackonian philosopher-lizard that advocated a system of government known as 'Agonocracy', a system which is deemed to be similar with the one the Order advocated since 19th Century.
Last edited by Darussalam on Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Yea! deem not of change: ye shall be as ye are, & not other. Therefore the kings of the earth shall be Kings for ever: the slaves shall serve. There is none that shall be cast down or lifted up: all is ever as it was.
Acceleration-worshiping cyberpunk Dubai built atop Lovecraftian hellscape.
Maximization of aesthetic is the only proper basis for policy preference
Former libertarian, Outside-oriented civilizationist, meta-contrarian, anti-anti-market, esoteric hypercapitalist.

User avatar
Ardoki
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14384
Founded: Sep 14, 2013
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Ardoki » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:00 pm

Nation Name (IC): Unified Progressive Republic of Ardoki
Government Type: Progressive Socialist Single-Party State
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: Not really, the only political organisations in Ardoki are derivatives of the Progressive Socialist Labour Party, or that party itself. Progressive Socialism, does bear some resemblance to agonocracy as they are both quite technocratic. However they cannot be called related.
When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): N/A
If so how popular are they?: N/A
If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: N/A
Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: N/A
Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*: N/A
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: Progressive Socialism, which is a lot older than agonocracy, is the only influence on the Ardokian elite and general population.
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: Negative, most questioned on it viewed it as anarchic and dangerous.
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: Hostile, they believe it is too individualistic and resembles anarcho-capitalism.
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: Those convicted of divergent political beliefs, are send to reeducation centres to be instructed in Progressive Socialism. Those who continue to defy, are sent to medical experimentation facilities.
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: No, most terrorists in Ardoki are actual anarchists.
If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country: There is an unknown number of them in Ardoki, and none have ever been taken in for divergent political beliefs. It is also not known when the ideology arrived in Ardoki, if it exists here or not. Though due to government control over the media and our national intranet, it would not be unlikely for no one to know of agonocracy.
Greater Ardokian Empire | It is Ardoki's destiny to rule the whole world!
Unitary Parliamentary Constitutional Republic

Head of State: Grand Emperor Alistair Killian Moriarty
Head of Government: Grand Imperial Chancellor Kennedy Rowan Coleman
Legislature: Imperial Senate
Ruling Party: Imperial Progressive Party
Technology Level: MT (Primary) | PMT, FanT (Secondary)
Politics: Social Democrat
Religion: None
Personality Type: ENTP 3w4

User avatar
New Alsatia
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 42
Founded: Jan 25, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby New Alsatia » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:24 pm

Nation Name (IC): The Empire of New Alsatia
Government Type: Aristocracy styled as imperial
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: There are two known Agonocratic organisations in New Alsatia: the Anti-Theist Agonocratic Alliance (ATAA) and the Agonocratic Christian Church (ACC).
When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): Less than three years ago (we use a very different calendar in New Alsatia and can't get the conversions right).
If so how popular are they?: Not very popular.
If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: There are no elections.
Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: No.
Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy: The ATAA is very orthodox in thought and manners. The ACC make parallels between Agonocracy, Objectivism and Christianity. Surprisingly, it doesn't look mix-and-match at all, and it was worked to fit well.
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: Curiously, the government does encourage social darwinism, but it divides up the elite in a strange way. Either the elite becomes part of the government (the reason why there is officially no private sector in New Alsatia according to our census), or it opposes it, becoming an elite of rebels. As a consequence, New Alsatia is in a constant state of (informal) civil war between the irresistible imperial family and the omnipresent rebels.
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: Bourgeois think it rules the world ; peasants do not know it exists ; the government is trying to change that.
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: The imperial family considers itself the best representation of the concept, due to their outstanding military and social influence.
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: No. They love to play with them, convincing them that their protests are legal until one member in a while is accused of treason and executed publicly and bloodily.
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: Once in a while, a member of an Agonocratic organisation is accused of terrorism and executed. The accusations are not always verifiable with facts, however.
If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country: Imported to New Alsatia when a traveller sold a collection of philosophy books. Aside from Maglos' own work, the books included Atlas Shrugged, Leviathan, and the Septuagint. The traveller left the nation peacefully and was never seen again.

Is your nation an Agonocracy (if "No" then why the hell have you copied out this form? You great multi-appendaged, supine monster.): The government encourages the elite to either defeat them or join them, but because the government IS the greatest elite in the nation, it is hard to know whether it qualifies or not. And the Empress IS a great multi-appendaged, supine monster.
Would your nation be interested in economic or military alliance with Greater Mackonia?: Yes
Would your nation be interested in joining a political union with Greater Mackonia?: Yes

User avatar
Imyoji
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1080
Founded: Oct 22, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Imyoji » Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:21 am

Mack, I've been waiting for this.


Nation Name (IC): The Republic of Imyoji

Government Type: Parliamentary Democratic Republic (Dominant Party State is much more accurate)

Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: The closest one could get is the PLND, the Party of Liberals and National Democrats. The primary ideals of the party are Liberalism and Pragmatism with some nationalistic leanings. Known to be somewhat authoritative in the political freedoms sector, but so far have been very supportive of various socially liberal reforms. Somewhat criticized on occasion for it's large size and occasional silencing of opposition within the party. Strongly backed by the intellectual elite and the scientific community of Imyoji, as well as the media industries.

When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): 2003, merger between the Liberal Party (supported liberalism and social democracy, but in practice they supported pragmatic governance and has a highly meritocratic leadership with much of the central power in the hands of the intelligentsia and economists of Imyoji) and the National League of Democracy (not democratic by the slightest, a remnant of the former 'pro-democracy' wing of the military dictatorship, comprised of technocrats and military officials)

If so how popular are they?: Dominant in Coalition

If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: 53% of the vote

Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: 57 seats out of a 100 in the National Diet

Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*: They certainly do not call it 'Agnocracy' but rather label it as a pragmatic approach to economics and political social order. It differs in that egalitarianism is somewhat desirable for social stability and social mobility (of the meritocratic slash craftsmanship sort), and that certain things like education and healthcare, are universal rights to any person.

What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: The economy of Imyoji has experienced a neutral to negative response to conventional western neoliberalism. For the most part, Imyonese economics tend to be somewhat corporatist and very pragmatic in nature, but have always tried to ensure some form of monetary egalitarianism was somewhat achieved to ensure a pacified populace. Of course, craftsmanship culture is highly dominant, which contributed to the meritocractic structures of many businesses (especially in the tech and media sectors). Money is not too much of an issue, but rather the quality and merit that is brought in honour of the creator.

What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: Unknown, since what is can be called Agnocracy in Imyoji isn't even called as such, but the party that is most similar in ideals has very large backing from the public.... Despite the occasional critic.

What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: The intelligentsia certainly knows of Agnocracy, and have a somewhat neutral to skeptical relation to it. However, it is regarded as one of the more 'culturally compatible' ideologies by some.

Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: None at all.

Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: None, for the time being.

If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country: Culture wise, Imyoji was strongly meritocratic, with imperial courts being in constant flux with newer and fresher leadership. The Emperor never held much power, it was always the meritocratically chosen court that did much of the meddling. Craftsmanship culture also may be a big influence.
Last edited by Imyoji on Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:31 am, edited 2 times in total.
The Republic of Imyoji ― Emüryürü-ju Miinju
The Harmonious Northern Island


What do you get when you combine pursuits of technological advancements, an appreciation and strong conservation of the natural environment, and a harmony between altruistic communitarianism and state sponsored capitalism?
i am the globalization shill the left and the right warned you about

User avatar
Greater Mackonia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5085
Founded: Sep 13, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Mackonia » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:49 am

Status of the International Movement updated. Darussalam has been classified as 'Aware', given there is a powerful Agonocratic movement in the nation but it lacks support, Alsatia has been classified as 'Aware' as the government considers itself somewhat Agonocratic but would not be considered so by the ideology itself and lacks any real Agonocratic elements. Ardoki and the Mechanocracy have both been listed as 'opposed' as their evil commie dictatorships stamp out any dissenting factions. Imyoji has been classified as quasi-Agonocratic due to the prevalence of Agonocratic ideals and an Agonocratic culture but the presence of elections and non-Agonocratic philosophies such as utilitarianism.
The Agonocracy of Greater Mackonia
"Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser."
-Donald J. Trump.

User avatar
The Batorys
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5547
Founded: Oct 12, 2009
Democratic Socialists

Postby The Batorys » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:34 am

Nation Name (IC): The Batory Empire
Government Type: Absolute monarchy (stemming from the Batory clan viewing it as their tribal territory; the matriarch of the clan is the Empress) at the national level. Provinces mostly self-governing, with various different government types used.
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: Being an absolutist state, if there are parties at the national level, they have no power, and the Batory government does not really keep track of them, as they are of little relevance. There are probably some clubs formed by teenagers trying to be edgy somewhere.
When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): Various times, probably more recently than the 1950s.
If so how popular are they?: Somewhat popular among rebellious adolescents who seek the mystique that comes with espousing views that they think are controversial.
If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: No elections at the national level. Not enough votes in provincial elections for any of the organizations to gain seats in provincial legislatures. Probably due to most of the ideology's adherents being too young to vote.
Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: There is no national legislature, as the Batorys decide what the national laws will be on their territory. Agonocratic organizations do not hold seats in any provincial legislatures.
Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*: It is unknown how much bad poetry the Agonocratic organizations in the Batory Empire have corrupted the original ideology with.
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: Almost none. Unless you consider the Batory clan's "we will rule our territory as we please, as it is ours," views to be Agonocratic. They don't, largely because they don't concern themselves with ideology.
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: That it is a fad ideology of individuals usually between the ages of 13 and 20 years, who hold to it in order to justify delusions of grandeur and provide a reason why "nobody understands" them.
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: It does not have an opinion on the subject. Except that the poetry that emerges from Agonocratic groups is usually melodramatic, cliche, obnoxious, and generally bad.
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: No. Usually Agonocrats grow out of it, so there's no reason to do anything but wait.
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: Yes. Various schools report quite a few dustbin fires and a large amount of annoying bathroom graffiti.
If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country: Once upon a time, some kids found a new word to describe their edginess and general belief that they should be in charge of everything. Then later they grew up. The End.



Is your nation an Agonocracy (if "No" then why the hell have you copied out this form? You great multi-appendaged, supine monster.): No, to the first question, and mainly to be contrary, as well as the fact that we are jerks, to the second.
How did your nation become an Agonocracy?: It didn't.
Who is the leader of the Agonocratic movement in your nation?: A 17-year old girl who calls herself Ozymandia. Yes, she spells it that way.
Is Agonocracy popular among the populace?: Only the segment between the ages of 13 and 20.
Does your nation practice orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof?: Various Agonocrats will claim that they follow "Poetic Agonocracy," "Heroic Agonocracy," "Anarcho-Agonacracy," "Agonocratic Primitivism," "Minarcho-Agonocracy," and "Agonocratic Nihilism."
If a local variant please describe the differences?: The main differences seem to be the amount of bad poetry, the degree of inflated self-importance, the Agonocrat's opinion of punk rock, the amount of bathing or lack thereof, the socioeconomic status of the Agonocrat in question, and the degree to which said individual cultivates an air of pretentious apathy, respectively.
Would your nation be interested in economic or military alliance with Greater Mackonia?: No. Unless the economic one comes with trade deals that are greatly beneficial to the Batory Empire.
Would your nation be interested in joining a political union with Greater Mackonia?: You would make a nice new province, or set of provinces.
Describe the brief history of Agonocracy in your nation: See above.
Mallorea and Riva should resign
This is an alternate history version of Callisdrun.
Here is the (incomplete) Factbook
Ask me about The Forgotten Lands!
Pro: Feminism, environmentalism, BLM, LGBTQUILTBAG, BDSM, unions, hyphy, Lenin, Khrushchev (with reservations), Ho Chi Minh, Oakland, old San Francisco, the Alliance to Restore the Republic, and fully automated gay luxury space communism
Anti: Misogyny, fossil fuels, racism, homophobia, kink-shaming, capitalism, LA, Silicon Valley, techies, Stalin, Mao, Brezhnev, the Galactic Empire, and the "alt-right"

User avatar
Greater Mackonia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5085
Founded: Sep 13, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Mackonia » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:55 am

Oooh how scathing. Admittedly that did make me laugh, status of the Movement updated accordingly.
The Agonocracy of Greater Mackonia
"Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser."
-Donald J. Trump.

User avatar
Akwenisia
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 22
Founded: Jul 14, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Akwenisia » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:17 am

Nation Name (IC): The People's Dictatorship of Akwenisia
Government Type:Totalitarian Dictatorship, Communist yet still competing on other countries free markets.
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: Other parties? What are these o-thur par-tees you speak of?
When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): How can they be founded when they don't exist?
If so how popular are they?: See above.
If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: Ee-lec-shuns? Stop confusing my brain with these big and foreign words!
Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: Hahahahahaha! No.
Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*: There is no party!
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: No influence!
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: EVIL ILLUMINATI LIZARD PEOPLE RUNNING EVIL ANTI-COMMUNIST HORRIBLE GOVERNMENT!
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: Threat to Akwenite society. CENSOR IT!
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: If anybody opposes the state with a different ideology, they tend to "disappear".
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: All Agonocrats get killed. Anybody who doesn't worship the state is destroyed.
If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country:Once there was a guy who was an Agonocrat. Then he died. The end!

Is your nation an Agonocracy (if "No" then why the hell have you copied out this form? You great multi-appendaged, supine monster.): No, I filled this form out because, behind the screen, I AM a multi-appendaged, supine monster!
How did your nation become an Agonocracy?: It didn't.
Who is the leader of the Agonocratic movement in your nation?: Nobody, from Nowhere. He also killed a cyclops a few thousand years ago.
Is Agonocracy popular among the populace?: No.
Does your nation practice orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof?: Neither.
If a local variant please describe the differences?: None.
Would your nation be interested in economic or military alliance with Greater Mackonia?: Would you like to buy our internet?
Would your nation be interested in joining a political union with Greater Mackonia?: Would you like to swear your eternal allegiance to your Lord and Master, Kyrios Anthalon?
Describe the brief history of Agonocracy in your nation: See above.
Akwenisia is a corrupt dictatorship ruled by Karl Vladimir Il Sung I (again) with an iron fist. Akwenisia is a PMT/FT nation, with most of its tech possible coming out in the real world by 2020.

Economic Left: -1.52
Social Libertarian: -0.55
I'm a White Cisgender Straight Male. Fear me!
PRO: capitalism under good regulation, small businesses, net-neutrality, Agonocracy (A new ideology by Greater Mackonia)
NEUTRAL: abortion
ANTI: communism, dictatorships, Israel, Palestine, foreign aid in general, radical religion (LRA, ISIS, etc.)

User avatar
New Alsatia
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 42
Founded: Jan 25, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby New Alsatia » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:30 am

Greater Mackonia wrote:Alsatia-The Alsatian Royal Family seem to consider themselves Agonocrats and indeed one could argue they practice the 'struggle' part of it, believing themselves to be just another faction and inviting others to try and destroy them. Alas Alsatia shows very little other Agonocratic characteristics, indeed the presence of a Monarchy is almost anti-thetical to Agonocracy, the parties which do advocate Agonocracy include one which seems to follow it to the 't' and another which does not really seem to understand what Agonocracy is, trying to synthesise it with Objectivism and Christianity, two ideas fundamentally opposed to Agonocracy.

OoC: You made a mistake in the nation's name. It is New Alsatia, not Alsatia. Also could you please explain why Agonocracy is fundamentally opposed to Objectivism, as both are about the intellectual elite rebelling against anti-intellectual institutions to instaure a new meritocratic society? Unless I misread, of course.

User avatar
Greater Mackonia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5085
Founded: Sep 13, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Mackonia » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:14 pm

New Alsatia wrote:
Greater Mackonia wrote:Alsatia-The Alsatian Royal Family seem to consider themselves Agonocrats and indeed one could argue they practice the 'struggle' part of it, believing themselves to be just another faction and inviting others to try and destroy them. Alas Alsatia shows very little other Agonocratic characteristics, indeed the presence of a Monarchy is almost anti-thetical to Agonocracy, the parties which do advocate Agonocracy include one which seems to follow it to the 't' and another which does not really seem to understand what Agonocracy is, trying to synthesise it with Objectivism and Christianity, two ideas fundamentally opposed to Agonocracy.

OoC: You made a mistake in the nation's name. It is New Alsatia, not Alsatia. Also could you please explain why Agonocracy is fundamentally opposed to Objectivism, as both are about the intellectual elite rebelling against anti-intellectual institutions to instaure a new meritocratic society? Unless I misread, of course.


Apologies.

I doubt you want to hear my ramblings so I'll try and be quick. Agonocracy fundamentally sees Objectivism as not going far enough, as in it is still egalitarian insofar as it advocates self-interest for all, Agonocracy indeed finds it dangerous that anyone but the best should pursue their self-interest. Objectivism is really seen as typical secular Herd morality dressed up in heroic rhetoric full of contradictory hypocrisy, its conception of the individual is one which leads itself to things like Democracy and Laisez-Faire Capitalism which are antithetical to Agonocracy. This excludes the legion of problems Agonocrats see with Rand's Metaphysics and Epistemology. Objectivism has nothing to do with a Meritocratic society, talent is fundamentally useless without capital in the ideal Objectivist society.

Of course by all means keep the Christian-Objectivist Agonocrats, its merely they will probably not be accepted by International Agonocracy.
The Agonocracy of Greater Mackonia
"Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser."
-Donald J. Trump.

User avatar
New Alsatia
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 42
Founded: Jan 25, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby New Alsatia » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:21 pm

Greater Mackonia wrote:Apologies.

I doubt you want to hear my ramblings so I'll try and be quick. Agonocracy fundamentally sees Objectivism as not going far enough, as in it is still egalitarian insofar as it advocates self-interest for all, Agonocracy indeed finds it dangerous that anyone but the best should pursue their self-interest. Objectivism is really seen as typical secular Herd morality dressed up in heroic rhetoric full of contradictory hypocrisy, its conception of the individual is one which leads itself to things like Democracy and Laisez-Faire Capitalism which are antithetical to Agonocracy. This excludes the legion of problems Agonocrats see with Rand's Metaphysics and Epistemology. Objectivism has nothing to do with a Meritocratic society, talent is fundamentally useless without capital in the ideal Objectivist society.

Of course by all means keep the Christian-Objectivist Agonocrats, its merely they will probably not be accepted by International Agonocracy.

Thanks for your answer.

User avatar
Alizeria
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1421
Founded: Jan 03, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Alizeria » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:28 pm

[OOC: I have to say I applaud the amount of detail you've gone into in describing this ideology.]

Nation Name (IC): The Kingdom of Alizeria
Government Type: Unitary tricameral Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: No
When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): N/A
If so how popular are they?: The number of people who support Agonocracy in Alizeria could be counted on your hands
If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: N/A
Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: No
Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*: N/A
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: Both major political parties in Alizeria have condemned the ideology as being anathema to Alizerian values (those of egalitarianism and faith specifically)
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: It's virtually unknown, but those who are aware of it loathe it and consider it, and its underlying philosophy, as arguably the pinnacle of un-Alizerian values.
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: The government does not have the power to condemn or condone specific ideologies, but as stated above both major parties in Alizeria have been on record as condemning the ideology
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: No. Firstly it's not well known enough, but secondly doing so would be illegal.
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: No
If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country: N/A

*Note: I will only consider it a legitimately separate branch of ideology if I personally see a noted difference from, yet influence of, Agonocratic ideas. Not just Agonocracy with your despot of the week's name stuck in front of it. If it bares no difference from normal Agonocracy I will count it as such and if it bares no resemblance I will count it as something else. You are free to delete this note, indeed I implore you to do so.
IIwiki | Hansard | Foreign Affairs | Q&A
Late Roman Empire wrote:Draconians often joke that they double-inspect imports of Alizerian lamb for signs of coupling.

New Edom wrote:Did you hear about that Alizerian who said he’d eat some sheep’s balls on a bet? He won the bet, but damn did that sheep kick him.

Hittanryan wrote:What do you call a guy with his hand up a sheep's ass? An Alizerian mechanic.

Schottia wrote:While Belisaria is burning Schottia is watching football and Alizeria is teaching sheep to drive.

Shalum wrote:Alizeria, the one place where it's acceptable to be a lady by day, and a freak in the hay.

User avatar
Themiclesia
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10601
Founded: Feb 12, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Themiclesia » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:53 pm

Nation Name (IC): the States Assembled
Government Type: Feudal monarchy
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: There are a few fringe groups believing that power is only demonstrable by use thereof, and that political power should always go to the most powerful, not inherited.
When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): The 1960s.
If so how popular are they?: Not very popular, since they contradict fundamental tenets of our society.
If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: In the latest estimation, a negligible amount.
Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: No.
Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*: n/a, since we don't use the label agonocracy.
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: Since our nation firmly believes in the divine right of kings, it has little place in mainstream political discourse.
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: It is more or less decried as repugnant to our social fabric.
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: No official positions.
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: No.
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: No.
If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country: --
Last edited by Themiclesia on Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Greater Mackonia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5085
Founded: Sep 13, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Mackonia » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:52 pm

Alizeria wrote:[OOC: I have to say I applaud the amount of detail you've gone into in describing this ideology.]

Nation Name (IC): The Kingdom of Alizeria
Government Type: Unitary tricameral Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: No
When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): N/A
If so how popular are they?: The number of people who support Agonocracy in Alizeria could be counted on your hands
If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: N/A
Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: No
Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy*: N/A
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: Both major political parties in Alizeria have condemned the ideology as being anathema to Alizerian values (those of egalitarianism and faith specifically)
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: It's virtually unknown, but those who are aware of it loathe it and consider it, and its underlying philosophy, as arguably the pinnacle of un-Alizerian values.
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: The government does not have the power to condemn or condone specific ideologies, but as stated above both major parties in Alizeria have been on record as condemning the ideology
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: No. Firstly it's not well known enough, but secondly doing so would be illegal.
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: No
If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country: N/A

*Note: I will only consider it a legitimately separate branch of ideology if I personally see a noted difference from, yet influence of, Agonocratic ideas. Not just Agonocracy with your despot of the week's name stuck in front of it. If it bares no difference from normal Agonocracy I will count it as such and if it bares no resemblance I will count it as something else. You are free to delete this note, indeed I implore you to do so.


Thank you!

I have updated the status again.
The Agonocracy of Greater Mackonia
"Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser."
-Donald J. Trump.

User avatar
Allancia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6571
Founded: Jul 24, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Allancia » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:34 pm

Nation Name (IC): The Imperium of Allancia.
Government Type: Mechanocratic authoritarianism.
Are there any Agonocratic parties or organisations espousing similar ideas in your nation?: The Allancian state itself could be considered a pseudo-Agonocracy, although there are purely Agonocratic factions in the upper echelons of the government
When were they founded? (1950s earliest and ideally only 2010s): These groups first became identified in the 1960's after major uprisings occurred across the nation, and there were calls for reform in the government.
If so how popular are they?: About 30% of the state is oponly pro-Agonocracy, but this is only a conservative estimate.
If your nation has elections, what percentage of the vote did they get?: Lol we're a dictatorship.
Do they hold any seats in the legislature?: The Reichsrat, the second in command to the High Command and third most powerful organization in Allancia, has about 24 out of 94 of its members openly Agonocratic.
Does said party espouse orthodox Agonocracy or some local variant thereof? If the latter, how does this variant differ from mainstream Agonocracy: Allancian Agonocracy is more statist and rigidized than conventional Agonocracy, but is largely the same.
What influence do Agonocratic ideas have on your nation's political, economic, cultural or military elite?: The Agonocratic regional and provincial governors who identified as Agonocratic during the 80's and 90's are largely seen as the reason that universal education and anti-race laws exist within Allancia. As well, there is a growing trend of families being forgone in place of state-rearing of children, a trend often attributed to Agonocratic ideals.
What is the general popular opinion on Agonocracy?: Although no formal poll has been held, most people within Allancia look on it favourably, seeing it as an alternative to modern governments and strikes a compromise between corporatism and Socialism.
What is the government's opinion on Agonocracy?: The majority of the government looks fondly on it, seeing it as a ideal to be strived towards.
Has your government taken any measures against Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: Several people who were openly Agonocratic have been arrested in Allancian history, and some Agonocratic groups have been shut down after becoming too vocal.
Have there ever been any instances of violence or terrorism involving Agonocratic parties or persons in your nation?: Due to strict anti-terror laws and an ever-watchful secret police, there are no extraordinary examples of this.
If applicable please provide a brief history of Agonocracy in your country: The history of Agonocracy could be traced back to Gordan Mann, a political theorist who was a champion of what he called "basic rights," meaning that everyone should start out the same with the same potential. However, people who failed to meet a certain intellectual standard had to be killed or interred in labor camps as to not poison what Mann called "the manufactured master race". He was later killed before his theories could be fully developed, meaning his theories were often corrupted and bastardized by his followers. Skip forward by almost a century, a new regime has taken power and almost 90 million people are dead by its hand. The leader of the Ivanovo Province comes out as a subscriber to Z. Maglos and Maglosian ideals. The leader of the Rostov Province does the same a month after, and cause a stir in the Allancian news system. Several years pass, and as violent riots begin to occur across the nation, with hundreds dying daily in habitual clashes with the police, several leaders of several provinces and several members of the Reichsrat come out as Agonocratics, resulting in almost a total crackdown on the internal state. Cleansing them and other political minorities was considered foolhardy and was never carried out, and as such not only did Allancia continue to survive as a nation but the movement flourished to this day.
The Grand Allancian Republic

"One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures."
-George Bush

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Factbooks and National Information

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Aikoland, Anexora, Britalia Raya, Great Nortend, Zeonk

Advertisement

Remove ads