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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:40 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Hey, could somebody link me to that Soviet military organization PDF? I'm trying to organize my military and I lost all my work when my computer fucked up momentously.

http://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm100-2-3.pdf
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:42 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Hey, could somebody link me to that Soviet military organization PDF? I'm trying to organize my military and I lost all my work when my computer fucked up momentously.

http://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm100-2-3.pdf

Thanks. Does that have stuff for the Soviet navy and air force, too?
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:45 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:

Thanks. Does that have stuff for the Soviet navy and air force, too?

It does not. You may have to look for them elsewhere.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:00 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:

Thanks. Does that have stuff for the Soviet navy and air force, too?

It includes Air Forces of the Front and the Naval Infantry, if that's close enough for you :P
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Postby Celibrae » Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:31 pm

Should I have a GPMG distributed to each squad, or should I have a dedicated weapons platoon?
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Postby Immoren » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:07 pm

Celibrae wrote:Should I have a GPMG distributed to each squad, or should I have a dedicated weapons platoon?


Depends on how you envision your small unit techniques to work.
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Postby Sakrand » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:09 pm

At what level of organization should I place artillery rockets like the FROG-7?

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:10 pm

Sakrand wrote:At what level of organization should I place artillery rockets like the FROG-7?

Fireteam.
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Postby Sakrand » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:21 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Sakrand wrote:At what level of organization should I place artillery rockets like the FROG-7?

Fireteam.


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Postby Husseinarti » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:23 pm

Sakrand wrote:At what level of organization should I place artillery rockets like the FROG-7?


You should place these tactical missiles say, in a divisions artillery brigade, formed into an IRBM battalion.

Possibly a corps level asset if you want to.
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Sakrand wrote:At what level of organization should I place artillery rockets like the FROG-7?


You should place these tactical missiles say, in a divisions artillery brigade, formed into an IRBM battalion.

Possibly a corps level asset if you want to.

Does FROG really want to sit with IRBMs?
It's got only slightly more range than some long-range artillery guns, is unguided and not that precise.
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Postby Sakrand » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:40 pm

Husseinarti wrote:
Sakrand wrote:At what level of organization should I place artillery rockets like the FROG-7?


You should place these tactical missiles say, in a divisions artillery brigade, formed into an IRBM battalion.

Possibly a corps level asset if you want to.


Would a battery sized element of 4 launchers in a platoon sized element of support vehicles (additional rockets, targeting equipment, air defense etc) in the artillery brigade/regiment be sufficient? I have mountains of FROG's of various models to fill out my second line divisions so there isn't really any issue with increasing the number of launchers and whatnot

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Postby Sakrand » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:42 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Does FROG really want to sit with IRBMs?
It's got only slightly more range than some long-range artillery guns, is unguided and not that precise.


Would it be possible to create, with stronk North Korean level technology, a guided or at least more precise FROG?

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Postby Husseinarti » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:44 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Husseinarti wrote:
You should place these tactical missiles say, in a divisions artillery brigade, formed into an IRBM battalion.

Possibly a corps level asset if you want to.

Does FROG really want to sit with IRBMs?
It's got only slightly more range than some long-range artillery guns, is unguided and not that precise.


tbh I thought FROG had a range of like 100+ km or smth
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Postby EsToVnIa » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:45 pm

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Imperializt Russia wrote:Does FROG really want to sit with IRBMs?
It's got only slightly more range than some long-range artillery guns, is unguided and not that precise.


tbh I thought FROG had a range of like 100+ km or smth


The Iraqi modernized variant has 90 km range.
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Postby Sakrand » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:47 pm

Husseinarti wrote:
tbh I thought FROG had a range of like 100+ km or smth


The FROG-7's range is around 70km with an impact area of approximately 2.8 km long by 1.8 km wide, although there isn't much stopping someone from lengthening the rocket to accommodate more fuel or improving the rocket motor to improve range

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:49 pm

Sakrand wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Does FROG really want to sit with IRBMs?
It's got only slightly more range than some long-range artillery guns, is unguided and not that precise.


Would it be possible to create, with stronk North Korean level technology, a guided or at least more precise FROG?

I have suggested this to a friend before, but he stated it would be flat-out impossible and require an entirely new missile body.
I was skeptical that it would be that difficult.

The goal was essentially to use the limited guidance that smart rockets of 70mm calibre have - merely to straighten the trajectory, if nothing else.
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Postby The Kievan People » Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:34 pm

...who uses IRBMs as a corps asset?
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Postby Vedria » Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:18 am

Hoj!

I am currently working on my military organization factbook, and I'm putting it up here for review. sexi link

First off, does my Battalion HQ Company make sense? What equipment/units am I missing, if any? I havent the faintest clue as to what I could possibly need for battalion-level combat support (read:logistics)

Second, does my standard infantry squad size of 10 troops look too big? Or should I keep it that way?
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Postby Questers » Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:50 am

Vedria wrote:Hoj!

I am currently working on my military organization factbook, and I'm putting it up here for review. sexi link

First off, does my Battalion HQ Company make sense? What equipment/units am I missing, if any? I havent the faintest clue as to what I could possibly need for battalion-level combat support (read:logistics)

Second, does my standard infantry squad size of 10 troops look too big? Or should I keep it that way?
Did you intentionally not put the logistics in for the divisions?

edit: I dont understand your tank company. Is it 32 tanks or 32 troops?
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Postby Vedria » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:00 am

Questers wrote:
Vedria wrote:Hoj!

I am currently working on my military organization factbook, and I'm putting it up here for review. sexi link

First off, does my Battalion HQ Company make sense? What equipment/units am I missing, if any? I havent the faintest clue as to what I could possibly need for battalion-level combat support (read:logistics)

Second, does my standard infantry squad size of 10 troops look too big? Or should I keep it that way?
Did you intentionally not put the logistics in for the divisions?

edit: I dont understand your tank company. Is it 32 tanks or 32*3 tanks?


32 troops. As in, 32 soldiers. I put it in for future use when I need to figure out divisional numbers and such.

And, yes, I did not. Each brigade has an organic logistical support batallion. The Engineers battalion has its own HQ&Supply company, while the missile batteries have their own combat support platoon to supply them.

Those supply elements will coordinate with the divisonal logistics officer for things to go smoothly.
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Postby Questers » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:03 am

Vedria wrote:
Questers wrote: Did you intentionally not put the logistics in for the divisions?

edit: I dont understand your tank company. Is it 32 tanks or 32*3 tanks?


32 troops. As in, 32 soldiers. I put it in for future use when I need to figure out divisional numbers and such.

And, yes, I did not. Each brigade has an organic logistical support batallion. The Engineers battalion has its own HQ&Supply company, while the missile batteries have their own combat support platoon to supply them.

Those supply elements will coordinate with the divisonal logistics officer for things to go smoothly.


Combat service support and combat support is insufficient. Very insufficient.

A troop is often used as a formation. 32 soldiers is a tiny tank company. More importantly, how many tanks is it?
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Postby Vedria » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:07 am

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32 troops. As in, 32 soldiers. I put it in for future use when I need to figure out divisional numbers and such.

And, yes, I did not. Each brigade has an organic logistical support batallion. The Engineers battalion has its own HQ&Supply company, while the missile batteries have their own combat support platoon to supply them.

Those supply elements will coordinate with the divisonal logistics officer for things to go smoothly.


Combat service support and combat support is insufficient. Very insufficient.

A troop is often used as a formation. 32 soldiers is a tiny tank company. More importantly, how many tanks is it?


10 tanks x 3 crew each + coy leader and his assistant.

As for logistics, i see. How do you suggest I go about increasing it?
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Postby Questers » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:08 am

Vedria wrote:
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Combat service support and combat support is insufficient. Very insufficient.

A troop is often used as a formation. 32 soldiers is a tiny tank company. More importantly, how many tanks is it?


10 tanks x 3 crew each + coy leader and his assistant.

As for logistics, i see. How do you suggest I go about increasing it?
You just need more combat service support. You haven't added medical, transport, logistics, road-construction, etc. You could assimilate them all in one brigade, or distribute.
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Postby Vedria » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:12 am

Questers wrote:
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10 tanks x 3 crew each + coy leader and his assistant.

As for logistics, i see. How do you suggest I go about increasing it?
You just need more combat service support. You haven't added medical, transport, logistics, road-construction, etc. You could assimilate them all in one brigade, or distribute.


Arent the combat support battalions enough?

V. Combat Support Battalion

1x HQ Company

1x Logistics Company

1x Transportation Company

1x Maintenance & Equipment Company

1x Medical Platoon

VI. Combat Engineer Battalion

1x HQ Company

1x Pontoon Brigde Construction Company

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1x Road/Railway Repair Company

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