NS Military Realism Consultation Thread Type 08

[The Kievan People]

How fast is a bullet from a GAU-8/A Avenger going?

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[Free Asian Ports]

How fast is a bullet from a GAU-8/A Avenger going?

Muzzle velocity is 3,500 ft/s or 1070 m/s

[The Free Territory of Freedomland]

How fast is a bullet from a GAU-8/A Avenger going?

Seriously? Look it up.

[Cirilla]

How fast is a bullet from a GAU-8/A Avenger going?

Seriously? Look it up.

I had no knowledge of what a "muzzle velocity" was or even that was what I was looking for tbh. That is why I asked here since military stuff guns are not my forte. Thank you for helping me though....

[Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502]

Are rockets/missiles louder than guns of a similar size? E.g. an MLRS or a battery of 155 guns.

[Esgonia]

Is it possible to mount a 30mm auto cannon to an armored scout car like the VBL?

[Roski]

Are rockets/missiles louder than guns of a similar size? E.g. an MLRS or a battery of 155 guns.

Uh

Probably so but that matters why?

[Roski]

Is it possible to mount a 30mm auto cannon to an armored scout car like the VBL?

Its physically possible, but that looks like you could only fire it in two directions. Probably not a good idea.

[Free Asian Ports]

Could you operate an A-7E Corsair II off a ski ramp?

[The Kievan People]

Are rockets/missiles louder than guns of a similar size? E.g. an MLRS or a battery of 155 guns.

Yes.

Subjectively at least.

[North Arkana]

Would converting 3"/50 caliber and 4"/50 caliber naval guns into tank/anti-tank weapons for a WW2 setting be reasonable?

I should mention I've been trying to find information on the performance of the AP rounds for the guns but haven't found anything yet.

[Velkanika]

Would converting 3"/50 caliber and 4"/50 caliber naval guns into tank/anti-tank weapons for a WW2 setting be reasonable?

I should mention I've been trying to find information on the performance of the AP rounds for the guns but haven't found anything yet.

I think it could work, but you're probably better off with a purpose-built design.

[The Akasha Colony]

Would converting 3"/50 caliber and 4"/50 caliber naval guns into tank/anti-tank weapons for a WW2 setting be reasonable?

I should mention I've been trying to find information on the performance of the AP rounds for the guns but haven't found anything yet.

The 3"/50 Marks 10, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 were obsolete by WWII and were being phased out by the Navy at the time. The 3"/50 Marks 27, 33, and 34 did not receive an AP shell until after the war, in the 1950s.

The 4"/50 Marks 7, 8, 9 and 10 never received an AP round.

[Dostanuot Loj]

Her first time watching A Bridge Too Far you weirdo.

I'm slowly introducing her to good war movies.

Careful, she'll start making you watch the romantic "chick flick" movies

We're talking about a woman who's major criticism of Passchendale was that it had too much romance.
Which is everyone's major criticism of that movie to be frank.

I should have clarified, I meant good war movies she has not already seen. She owned copies of Platoon, Saving Private Ryan, G.I. Jane, and Black Hawk Down before we met.

I've worked her into Heartbreak Ridge, The Lost Battalion, and both versions of All Quiet on the Western Front to name a few. It's the long ones that are difficult. Patton and Tora! Tora! Tora! are being worked on.

[Altaiire]

Could you shift the nuclear reactor in a sub somewhere that isn't aft if it runs on electric motors and not shafts?

[The Akasha Colony]

Could you shift the nuclear reactor in a sub somewhere that isn't aft if it runs on electric motors and not shafts?

Where else would you put it? The engineering plant is like half the submarine.

[North Arkana]

I should mention I've been trying to find information on the performance of the AP rounds for the guns but haven't found anything yet.

The 3"/50 Marks 10, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 were obsolete by WWII and were being phased out by the Navy at the time. The 3"/50 Marks 27, 33, and 34 did not receive an AP shell until after the war, in the 1950s.

The 4"/50 Marks 7, 8, 9 and 10 never received an AP round.

If they were being phased out that would leave a rather large number of them available, probably. So if in sudden need of a weapon with reasonable performance against armor, by early ww2 standards, and assuming the military beuracracy recognizes that armor already present is giving the light AT guns trouble, the 3"/50 could be adapted to a carriage and used as an AT gun?

[The Akasha Colony]

The 3"/50 Marks 10, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 were obsolete by WWII and were being phased out by the Navy at the time. The 3"/50 Marks 27, 33, and 34 did not receive an AP shell until after the war, in the 1950s.

The 4"/50 Marks 7, 8, 9 and 10 never received an AP round.

If they were being phased out that would leave a rather large number of them available, probably. So if in sudden need of a weapon with reasonable performance against armor, by early ww2 standards, and assuming the military beuracracy recognizes that armor already present is giving the light AT guns trouble, the 3"/50 could be adapted to a carriage and used as an AT gun?

The guns were in demand for merchantman, destroyer escorts, and other auxiliaries not expected to be involved in heavy combat, for which the gun was still adequate and had the advantage of being lighter and cheaper than a 5" gun. They were removed from battleships and heavy cruisers in favor of 5" guns since those larger ships had sufficient space for them. When the VT fuze was introduced, the 3" guns suddenly became valuable again because they were the smallest caliber able to use them, and demand rose further.

The later 3"/50 Mark 27 was based on the gun from the earlier series (the Mark 22 gun) on a new mount (the Mark 27 mount) to make the gun fully automatic, but this design missed the war.

[Allanea]

TRenches: How to do them properly.

Here are some photographs of the defensive trench lines near Mariupol, courtesy of the Ukrainian military. They're really not bad at all.

[Crookfur]

Is it possible to mount a 30mm auto cannon to an armored scout car like the VBL?

Yes, depending on what 30mm gun you want to use.

[The Soodean Imperium]

Can flack guns be carried by one person and if so, can such a thing actually shoot down helicopters?

"flak guns" are too heavy for one person to carry. During the Second World War they were usually placed on stationary mounts which could be towed when not in use. By the modern day they've mostly been replaced by Surface-to Air Missiles and anti-air autocannons of calibers 57mm and below. If for whatever reason you needed to use flak guns today, they would most likely take the form of self-propelled mounts like Draco or Otomatic; Iran has some radar-directed 100mm guns, but surface-to-air missiles would be better if you can get your hands on them.

If I were to modify RPG-7 warheads to do such a thing, would something like a HE or shrapnel warhead be a good idea?

Theoretically you could develop a fragmentation warhead with a proximity fuse, which would make hitting the helicopter much easier, but you're better off just using dedicated shoulder-launched SAMs like Stinger or Igla.

At most, one person could lug a 7.62mm machine gun, which can actually present a danger to helicopters, but not a huge one. A trio of people could carry a 12.7mm heavy machine gun, tripod, and ammo, which presents a bit more of a danger, though usually that would be for defending something - you wouldn't helicopter hunt with it.

haters gonna hate

wat

This is literally the most bizarre fact book entry I've ever seen on NS.

Normally this is where I would come in and give a newbie the benefit of the doubt, but right now i just don't even

[Imperializt Russia]

Would converting 3"/50 caliber and 4"/50 caliber naval guns into tank/anti-tank weapons for a WW2 setting be reasonable?

I should mention I've been trying to find information on the performance of the AP rounds for the guns but haven't found anything yet.

In WW2, aircraft guns were typically adapted into AT guns due to their high muzzle velocities and thus high muzzle energies. They were typically high-calibre weapons to accommodate large burst warheads for frag damage, which were suited to either a fat and heavy AP shell, subcalibre AP rounds and later, HEAT.

Not sure if naval guns would be a useful starting point.

Are rockets/missiles louder than guns of a similar size? E.g. an MLRS or a battery of 155 guns.

What is important is that A, both are incredibly loud and B, their report will be different. I don't have figures for volume, but obviously a gun blast is a short, sharp noise while a rocket engine is a constant noise.

Are you asking in terms of hearing protection for crews or in terms of the enemy being able to locate the firing point? Smoke trails, backblast will be easier for them and if they're close enough to hear the firing point, they're too close.

[Altaiire]

Could you shift the nuclear reactor in a sub somewhere that isn't aft if it runs on electric motors and not shafts?

Where else would you put it? The engineering plant is like half the submarine.

How about "does the reactor need to be next to the engine room?"

[Imperializt Russia]

Where else would you put it? The engineering plant is like half the submarine.

How about "does the reactor need to be next to the engine room?"

Why would you want it not near the engine room?
Not putting it there only complicates the ship design and possibly introduces fatal failure risks.

[Altaiire]

How about "does the reactor need to be next to the engine room?"

Why would you want it not near the engine room?
Not putting it there only complicates the ship design and possibly introduces fatal failure risks.

Why/how?