NS Military Realism Consultation Thread Type 08

[United Earthlings]

Given that your this sentence amounts to "you already explained this and I didn't listen to it but can you say it a second time," the answer you got is unfortunately the most thorough answer that can be expected.

That's one interpretation. Unfortunately, no matter what excuses are utilized to justify said answer, said answer to my question still remains most certainty not thorough.

Also, as indicated from your response I'm guessing you don't ascribe to this particular philosophy.

Which personally to me seems a shame, but to each their own.

OK, so I've had the idea of conscription for awhile and I have a question about it. My nation is very defensive over offense oriented, so I could see how conscription would put a lot of manpower at my disposal. But, with more troops comes less training and over all skill. Including the fact that I am located in a very peaceful part of my RP world conscription may not bring enough benefits to justify the trade offs. That being said, I have contemplated the idea of conscription for less intense jobs like logistics, needed engineering(possible army corps of engineers esque thing), medical field, office work, MP, etc. Pretty much every job that doesn't require being directly involved to put your life on the line and fight for your country. Being conscripted to behind the scenes jobs instead of front line grunt work could raise overall morale due to not forcing people to fight for a country they may or may not like. This could also help with needed logistics and busy work to help make the military as a whole more efficient. If this sort of system was implemented I was also thinking that once a person was conscripted that they could choose where/what they wanted to work at/do. This could help those being conscripted feel more content by allowing them to choose a job that better fits their skills and interest. So, after explaining that, my main questions are whether it's worth initiating some sort of conscription policy for my nation.

And if so, if the current plan I have in mind would work to a good amount of success.

Given the limited amount of data, I would currently say no, your plan would not work well. Conscription works best when economies of scale are implemented and when a direct military threat is present. Since, neither of these currently apply to you, a small professional volunteer force is your better option. Also, depending on your nation's overall economic well being in relation to defense spending, instead of using conscripts for just behind the scenes work you could instead turn to PMCs {Private Military Companies} in the military support firm category.

Tracked vs wheeled field brothels. Pros? Cons?

More people need to answer this.

Neither!

Will probably require a few of you to do some social reengineering towards a more liberal sociality structure as well as the relaxing of some military standards.

First step is integrate the field units with both sexes so having women in combat roles, relax the rules regarding the development of interpersonal relationships between subordinates as well as between all ranks and those in other services.

Human nature takes over from there...eliminating the requirement for brothels.

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P.S. What's the voting currently stand at, who has the most votes?

[Vancon]

ImpRus is in first with 8.
Korva in second with a 6.
Dosta is in third with 5.
Fourth goes to New Vih at 2.
Fifth is a tie between Keiv and Akasha with 1 each.
Seventh is a tie between ABH and UE with none.

[Gallia-]

Given that your this sentence amounts to "you already explained this and I didn't listen to it but can you say it a second time," the answer you got is unfortunately the most thorough answer that can be expected.

That's one interpretation. Unfortunately, no matter what excuses are utilized to justify said answer, said answer to my question still remains most certainty not thorough.

Also, as indicated from your response I'm guessing you don't ascribe to this particular philosophy.

Which personally to me seems a shame, but to each their own.

A profession of ignorance is not stupid, but false pretension of knowledge is.

[The Nuclear Fist]

>not having military brothels because of logistical issues

Either:

Rape the locals

or

Lol git gud skrub

[Vancon]

>not having military brothels because of logistical issues

Either:

Rape the locals

or

Lol git gud skrub

Starting off strong.

[Gallia-]

>having military brothels when perfectly good private alternative exists

hf with duplication and costs that could be better applied in other areas which the military should eminently specialize in :economics:

[Allanea]

e: you could offset this by having prostitution platoons organic to a battalion or something, but that rapidly increases upkeep and medical expenditure + personnel for little benefit, since the same benefits can be found in private prostitutes which provide similar rapport/familiarity to local units, but can be "rotated" as soldiers come and go

it's easier to keep track of mama-san's debauchery den than it is to make sure private fillmore didnt give corporal smith gonorrhea or sth and finding out how many men she's fucked since then in the battalion(s) she's been wheeled around in

Except that [legal] brothels are not really that dangerous in terms of venereal disease as you imagine them to be.

[Kazarogkai]

I guess this might be already done (or is already done), but if tribalism and distrust with working with people outside of your tribe/clan, and more stronger loyalties to the tribes/clans than any central authority, is problem with certain parts of the world.
Couldn't you attempt to do some sort of pseudo-regimental system, where tribes are "regiments" and basic tactical units? So you wouldn't mix men of several tribes.

That is sorta how I planned on organizing my troops previously, each regiment derived from an individual settlement and was further organized along Age grades(think Zulus). Something like this:

Traditional Force
Regiment = Settlement
Battalion = age group tier
Company = Individual age group
Platoon = Field-Group

[Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502]

Let's have military brothels, but here's the kicker; only men staff them.

[Azenyanistan]

Let's have military brothels, but here's the kicker; only men staff them.

My nation can only accept females into police, government and military


because we ran out of men


they were all dead or missing

[Neo Philippine Empire]

Let's have military brothels, but here's the kicker; only men staff them.

My nation can only accept females into police, government and military


because we ran out of men


they were all dead or missing

Dude, without men...Your nation will fall into oblivion.

Unless you'll make the whole nation as a brothel as means of expanding your population then it should be fine.

For the meantime, I will be invading Azenyanistan with men infected with AIDS.

[Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502]

My nation can only accept females into police, government and military


because we ran out of men


they were all dead or missing

Dude, without men...Your nation will fall into oblivion.

Unless you'll make the whole nation as a brothel as means of expanding your population then it should be fine.

For the meantime, I will be invading Azenyanistan with men infected with AIDS.

You can create sperm in laboratories. It's still being researched and has a ways to go, but I guarantee you it's possible without men..

[Azenyanistan]

Dude, without men...Your nation will fall into oblivion.

Unless you'll make the whole nation as a brothel as means of expanding your population then it should be fine.

For the meantime, I will be invading Azenyanistan with men infected with AIDS.

You can create sperm in laboratories. It's still being researched and has a ways to go, but I guarantee you it's possible without men..

actually been doing that
thank you

i just never told anyone

[Azenyanistan]

Dude, without men...Your nation will fall into oblivion.

Unless you'll make the whole nation as a brothel as means of expanding your population then it should be fine.

For the meantime, I will be invading Azenyanistan with men infected with AIDS.

You can create sperm in laboratories. It's still being researched and has a ways to go, but I guarantee you it's possible without men..

and i actually have a few stashes of semen for my nation in case we ran out of men

[Korva]

i actually have a few stashes of semen for my nation in case we ran out of men

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you NS Military Realism Consultation Thread Type 08.

[Esgonia]

and i actually have a few stashes of semen for my nation in case we ran out of men

I laughed.
Also can a SAM be able to shoot down a HARM Missile?

[Roski]

and i actually have a few stashes of semen for my nation in case we ran out of men

I laughed.
Also can a SAM be able to shoot down a HARM Missile?

With missiles

[New Vihenia]

You can create sperm in laboratories. It's still being researched and has a ways to go, but I guarantee you it's possible without men..

you don't even need sperm either... Female egg cells carry polar body, basically nonviable egg cells, that can be activated.. take genetic material inside it then insert it to the viable egg. boom..Parthenogenesis.

alternatively.. take another woman's egg... take its genetic material.. then combine it with other woman's egg... yay.. the kid will have TWO biological mother.

[Azenyanistan]

You can create sperm in laboratories. It's still being researched and has a ways to go, but I guarantee you it's possible without men..

you don't even need sperm either... Female egg cells carry polar body, basically nonviable egg cells, that can be activated.. take genetic material inside it then insert it to the viable egg. boom..Parthenogenesis.

alternatively.. take another woman's egg... take its genetic material.. then combine it with other woman's egg... yay.. the kid will have TWO biological mother.

Thank you!

[Nachmere]

So basically you're suggesting we should not have field brothels because they're not part of RL militaries?

You're really stretching this "military realism" thing a bit.

Your signature is just about all the evidence I need regarding your view towards "military realism."

If ns military realism is -do what rl does- then ns warfare is going to be boring as fu**.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

Your signature is just about all the evidence I need regarding your view towards "military realism."

If ns military realism is -do what rl does- then ns warfare is going to be boring as fu**.

Except that you're wrong.

[Korva]

If ns military realism is -do what rl does- then ns warfare is going to be boring as fu**.

Except that you're wrong.

not really

the military is actually a really boring place to work

[Nachmere]

If ns military realism is -do what rl does- then ns warfare is going to be boring as fu**.

Except that you're wrong.

Omg, im totally convinced by this brilliant argument.

Lets make ns warfare like rl-
No real parity conflict ever.
Most militaries reduced to heacily armed humaniterian organizations.
RoEs allow you to break wind only after orders from divisional level.
Intresting tech and ideas die because of politics and budgets.

YES lets have total realism.

[Nachmere]

Except that you're wrong.

not really

the military is actually a really boring place to work

Oh this is 100% true but i was not even thinking of that. Yeah you want realism- make 2000 words factbooks about how your tank crews do weekly maintanance.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

Except that you're wrong.

not really

the military is actually a really boring place to work

No not really.

Well perhaps if you were a clerk or some army cook and you hate your current job then that might be understandable. Otherwise, serving in the military can hardly be considered "boring".