NS Military Realism Consultation Thread Type 08

[San Benedict e San Francesco]

What about women in combat makes you so insecure?

As it is we have women medics going on infantry operations with no issues. Carrying almost everything the men do and a medical kit on top.

Learly, it interrupts the homoeroticism of the "Modern Day Knight" "warrior" mythos that surrounds front combat troops.

What was it Betty White said about the whole thing again? Something about a pounding... I seem to have forgotten...

[San Benedict e San Francesco]

Any other feedback on my Divisional ORBAT, or are we too busy debating 75mm v 76mm / how to min-max Roski's statblock / the usefulness of Australia the self-cleaning properties of female genitalia?

You're right in your original post WRT AAA... but I like it, on the whole.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Any other feedback on my Divisional ORBAT, or are we too busy debating 75mm v 76mm / how to min-max Roski's statblock / the usefulness of Australia the self-cleaning properties of female genitalia?

Wait for Questers to have a look at it.

[Themiclesia]

Any other feedback on my Divisional ORBAT, or are we too busy debating 75mm v 76mm / how to min-max Roski's statblock / the usefulness of Australia the self-cleaning properties of female genitalia?

No, certainly not before I get any.

[Dostanuot Loj]

I always love how, when discussing "realism", people seem to forget how we as a species operated for 95% of our existence on this planet.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Anyway:

Yes, the average man is stronger than the average woman and can carry more weight than the average woman, but there are men who are stronger than other men, women who are stronger than other women and there are some women who are stronger than some men. Because of this, one's gender is not a definitive answer to their physical capabilities and therefore is no reason to deny somebody the right to fight and die for their country, should that be the career they choose. And that is all that need to be said about men and women serving alongside each other in the armed forces.

Saying women should be soldiers if they want (and are physically able) or men should be nurses if they want is not tumblr, SJW bullshit, it's common sense. It's the moral, righteous, correct thing to do. If you love freedom and hate morality-based traditionalism, you'll agree.

[Questers]

Squadrons are broken up into flights, 24 isn't uncommon for an aviation squadron. No problems.

Both noted, thanks. Now to design helicopters that fulfill those roles, but aren't clear copies of something else in their class.


Any other feedback on my Divisional ORBAT, or are we too busy debating 75mm v 76mm / how to min-max Roski's statblock / the usefulness of Australia?

It's good. But he doesn't have enough trux. Needs a transport battalion, especially for liquid carriers.

Also, just me here: BMPTs are gay. Replace with extra combat engineering vehicles such as mine-clearing tanks and breaching tanks.

[Questers]

If you love freedom and hate morality-based traditionalism, you'll agree.

traditionalism is good rly

[Padnak]

Heavy APCs/IFVs for tank divisions and normal APCs/IFVs for mechanized and motorized divisions y/n

[Immoren]

Heavy APCs/IFVs for tank divisions and normal APCs/IFVs for mechanized and motorized divisions y/n

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[Spirit of Hope]

Heavy APCs/IFVs for tank divisions and normal APCs/IFVs for mechanized and motorized divisions y/n

Why not just stick with the IFV's with tank divisions and APCs for mechanized/motorized division? Heavy APC's and IFV's don't add much capability to a units ability to fight, but do have increased logistical costs.

[Themiclesia]

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I completely reworked the structure of the Ministry of Defence in my nation, referencing the US DoD as a model, but mixing in elements expected of China. I'd appreciate it if you could give me some feedback. If you have questions (and you should, because I haven't written the precise portfolios of each of those organizations yet), just TG me in case I get new-page ninja'd.

Someone?

[Krazakistan]

Both noted, thanks. Now to design helicopters that fulfill those roles, but aren't clear copies of something else in their class.


Any other feedback on my Divisional ORBAT, or are we too busy debating 75mm v 76mm / how to min-max Roski's statblock / the usefulness of Australia?

It's good. But he doesn't have enough trux. Needs a transport battalion, especially for liquid carriers.

Also, just me here: BMPTs are gay. Replace with extra combat engineering vehicles such as mine-clearing tanks and breaching tanks.

B-but twin 30mm A/Cs, muh infantry suppression, muh tank escort.

[Immoren]

I feel like everyone's been posting their Divisions lately, so I might as well finish work on my own. Still WIP but all the basics are there.

Soodean Motorized Infantry Division

To provide a little background, this is a unit intended to fight as part of a large-scale conventional conflict against a parity neighbor. Expeditionary warfare is only a minor concern for the Soodean Military, to the point that I might leave it exclusively to the Marine Infantry, and Counter-Insurgency would only consist of making sure that enemy militia don't harass my supply lines. As some of you may notice, this Division is built on the Soviet 3:1:1 model, but is a little bit beefier as a result of some changes I've made in the front-line and supporting units. I don't yet consider it a completed work, which is why I've posted it here to get feedback before I start finalizing it and figuring out the subunits.

A few questions and concerns I have so far, in addition to any other problems anyone finds:

1. Do my intelligence and C4I assets look sufficient? I'm currently aiming for the "middle ground" of an army that was previously technologically inferior, but is now trying to catch up with the help of electronics imported from allies. This would represent an "ideal" unit, in practice not all would have the full EW Battalion.

2. It seems I'm a little heavy on AA, particularly SPAAGs and IR-SAMs. This is partly to make up for the relative weakness of Soodean Military Aviation, and partly in anticipation of massive A-10 spam on the part of my opponent, but have I overdone it to the point that I'm needlessly straining my budget and logistics?

3. Re: helicopters: Right now my Division has a "transport squadron" with 12 each of "Medium" (Mi-8/Ch-47 class) and "Light" (Ka-60/Z-9 class) helicopters. Is this all right, or should I go for all Light/all Medium?

4. Is my Divisional Artillery sufficient to crush incompetent questrians or should I add another SPG or MLRS battalion? Or, alternatively, expand from 18-gun to 24-gun battalions?

I might've missed it, but do regiments have different or same SPG as division?

[Questers]

It's good. But he doesn't have enough trux. Needs a transport battalion, especially for liquid carriers.

Also, just me here: BMPTs are gay. Replace with extra combat engineering vehicles such as mine-clearing tanks and breaching tanks.

B-but twin 30mm A/Cs, muh infantry suppression, muh tank escort.

Tanks already have escorts

[Immoren]

B-but twin 30mm A/Cs, muh infantry suppression, muh tank escort.

Tanks already have escorts

I-I never had sexual relation with that Leopard 2A4.

[Malkorian Empire]

How realisitic is my military hardware ect.? http://www.nationstates.net/nation=malkorian_empire/detail=factbook/id=401542

[Gallia-]

Did I hit a nerve or something? You're suddenly quiet. ):

Oh, no I just thought I won so I stopped replying. I guess if America spent less on mothballed tanks and more on education you could have read that too

For all its spending on healthcare and education, Australia takes a special pride in its aboriginal population! It even gave them good homes!

[Immoren]

How realisitic is my military hardware ect.? http://www.nationstates.net/nation=malkorian_empire/detail=factbook/id=401542

In what context?

[Gallia-]

What about women in combat makes you so insecure?

As it is we have women medics going on infantry operations with no issues. Carrying almost everything the men do and a medical kit on top.

He's probably scared he'll lose his job to a woman or something.

Or maybe he's a bad stereotype. o:

[Malkorian Empire]

How realisitic is my military hardware ect.? http://www.nationstates.net/nation=malkorian_empire/detail=factbook/id=401542

In what context?

Modern tech, my population size tbat kind of thing.

[Questers]

In what context?

Modern tech, my population size tbat kind of thing.

the tanks are ???????

[Gallia-]

Anyway:

Yes, the average man is stronger than the average woman and can carry more weight than the average woman, but there are men who are stronger than other men, women who are stronger than other women and there are some women who are stronger than some men. Because of this, one's gender is not a definitive answer to their physical capabilities and therefore is no reason to deny somebody the right to fight and die for their country, should that be the career they choose. And that is all that need to be said about men and women serving alongside each other in the armed forces.

Saying women should be soldiers if they want (and are physically able) or men should be nurses if they want is not tumblr, SJW bullshit, it's common sense. It's the moral, righteous, correct thing to do. If you love freedom and hate morality-based traditionalism, you'll agree.

I've tried saying this before. It doesn't work.

Also, sex not gender.

Okay, no more bants, official military realism talk here, tyvm Samoz.

d a m n

Any other feedback on my Divisional ORBAT, or are we too busy debating 75mm v 76mm / how to min-max Roski's statblock / the usefulness of Australia the self-cleaning properties of female genitalia?

The AAA battalion icons are "wrong".

Also an ADA regiment and ADA battalion seems to be "too much". A regiment is something you might see in a Corps.

[Krazakistan]

B-but twin 30mm A/Cs, muh infantry suppression, muh tank escort.

Tanks already have escorts

BMPT's role does seem to be a bit redundant tbh. An IFV and infantry can do the escort role just as well, if not better. Although tbh I still keep a few of them around in my army (I should cut back on them, though) because they how I figure it is: if I have a BMPT escorting this tank I can go send my infantry some place else and perform kebab removal activities.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Airplane question:

Suppose I took a basic 2-seat trainer... how much avionics (ECM) do you figure I could cram into the backseat to make it a combat-performer?
Starting with 1966-tech, BTW.

Also, if I were to convert the an Yak-7T/9B with a retrograde-turboprop, would it be possible to fit a 35mm cannon to fire through the propeller-hub, and would it be worthwhile to issue a fuze-setting device with it?