Infantry Discussion Thread 6: True Korea Edition

[Husseinarti]

PPSh-41: When you absolutely positively gotta sit the fuck down right now, accept no substitutes.

Something tells me that this is either during victory day celebrations in Russia or just your average day in Belarus.

Plan on Visiting the latter soon.

Probs not a good thing to go to Russia as an American for the time being.

Maybe in a year or so.

[Fordorsia]

Something tells me that this is either during victory day celebrations in Russia or just your average day in Belarus.

Plan on Visiting the latter soon.

Probs not a good thing to go to Russia as an American for the time being.

Maybe in a year or so.

Just use reverse psychology and talk even louder and more obnoxiously than normal. It will throw them off and they'll leave you alone.

[Tekeristan]

What is the size difference between the 5.56x39mm and a 9mm rifle round?
(Not the handgun round )

[Bezombia]

What is the size difference between the 5.56x39mm and a 9mm rifle round?
(Not the handgun round )

I have a couple better questions.

1. why would you ever want to use 5.56x39
2. why would you ever want to use a 9mm rifle round

[Korva]

What is the size difference between the 5.56x39mm and a 9mm rifle round?
(Not the handgun round )

surely this could easily be found out with google

[Fordorsia]

What is the size difference between the 5.56x39mm and a 9mm rifle round?
(Not the handgun round )

There are many 9mm rounds, for pistols and rifles. Also depends on what you mean by size.

[Tekeristan]

What is the size difference between the 5.56x39mm and a 9mm rifle round?
(Not the handgun round )

I have a couple better questions.

1. why would you ever want to use 5.56x39
2. why would you ever want to use a 9mm rifle round

1) Looking for a mix between the 7.62 and the 5.56
2) Don't worry about that.

[Bezombia]

I have a couple better questions.

1. why would you ever want to use 5.56x39
2. why would you ever want to use a 9mm rifle round

1) Looking for a mix between the 7.62 and the 5.56
2) Don't worry about that.

1) 5.45x39 is your friend. Or 6.5x39. Or 6.8x43. I've never even heard of 5.56x39.
2) .458 SOCOM

[Yukonastan]

What is the size difference between the 5.56x39mm and a 9mm rifle round?
(Not the handgun round )

3.80mm.

[The balkens]

Something tells me that this is either during victory day celebrations in Russia or just your average day in Belarus.

Plan on Visiting the latter soon.

Probs not a good thing to go to Russia as an American for the time being.

Maybe in a year or so.

I said Belarus. :/ unless they are they same thing.

[Imperializt Russia]

Time to interject your thoughts.
Would it be effective for me to make a tank with a hypervelocity coil gun for tank hunting or bunker destruction.

Arguably, modern tank guns achieve hypervelocity muzzle velocities.

A shell at 2km/s or greater would be very effective at penetrating armoured vehicles. Is building a gun to achieve that feasible? Not hugely. Certainly not worth it.

Also, as was suggested, there are more viable threads for this discussion.

[Imperializt Russia]

What is the size difference between the 5.56x39mm and a 9mm rifle round?
(Not the handgun round )

The 9.3x64mm Brennecke cartridge is about 12.9mm wide at its base and almost 86mm long.
The 9x39mm subsonic cartridge is 11.35mm wide at its base and probably has an overall length nearer 56mm (I assume since it's based on the 7.62x39mm cartridge).

You would use either of these cartridges very differently.

[Randmar]

So I am creating a "Foreign Guard" which will basically be security officers meant for guarding embassies, protecting visiting dignitaries, and generally be the public face of my military on the international scene.

I am curious I do not know much about guns but what would be some good weapons and calibers to arm them with? I need weapons that are highly accurate and are not as likely to shoot through walls just in case they do miss. I am not to concern about stopping power, I'd rather avoid killing some nosy reporter or other person whose death will set the media on fire.

[Korva]

So I am creating a "Foreign Guard" which will basically be security officers meant for guarding embassies, protecting visiting dignitaries, and generally be the public face of my military on the international scene.

I am curious I do not know much about guns but what would be some good weapons and calibers to arm them with? I need weapons that are highly accurate and are not as likely to shoot through walls just in case they do miss. I am not to concern about stopping power, I'd rather avoid killing some nosy reporter or other person whose death will set the media on fire.

Embassy guards don't really need anything beyond pistols, unless you are building a fortress in Baghdad.

[Husseinarti]

So I am creating a "Foreign Guard" which will basically be security officers meant for guarding embassies, protecting visiting dignitaries, and generally be the public face of my military on the international scene.

I am curious I do not know much about guns but what would be some good weapons and calibers to arm them with? I need weapons that are highly accurate and are not as likely to shoot through walls just in case they do miss. I am not to concern about stopping power, I'd rather avoid killing some nosy reporter or other person whose death will set the media on fire.

Embassy guards don't really need anything beyond pistols, unless you are building a fortress in Baghdad.

Thats why embassies around the word have armories right?

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

So I am creating a "Foreign Guard" which will basically be security officers meant for guarding embassies, protecting visiting dignitaries, and generally be the public face of my military on the international scene.

I am curious I do not know much about guns but what would be some good weapons and calibers to arm them with? I need weapons that are highly accurate and are not as likely to shoot through walls just in case they do miss. I am not to concern about stopping power, I'd rather avoid killing some nosy reporter or other person whose death will set the media on fire.

Same thing you give your military police.

Embassy guards don't really need anything beyond pistols, unless you are building a fortress in Baghdad.

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Whoa, calm down there, Hillary.

[Korva]

Embassy guards don't really need anything beyond pistols, unless you are building a fortress in Baghdad.

(Image)

Thats why embassies around the word have armories right?

obviously those armories are packed with GPMGs and mortars in case Jason Bourne shows up

Whoa, calm down there, Hillary.

Consulate in a war torn nation probably goes under the umbrella of fortress in Baghdad.

[Randmar]

But what would be some good handgun for them, and what would be a good back up weapons in case we need to do an evacuation from a hostile zone.

Same thing you give your military police.

I have not set up my military police, yet.

[Husseinarti]

Thats why embassies around the word have armories right?

obviously those armories are packed with GPMGs and mortars in case Jason Bourne shows up

They have rifles and stuff.

But " don't really need anything beyond pistols" is how you get your embassy raided.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

But what would be some good handgun for them, and what would be a good back up weapons in case we need to do an evacuation from a hostile zone.

Same thing you give your military police.

I have not set up my military police, yet.

Carbines and submachine guns.

[Yukonastan]

So I am creating a "Foreign Guard" which will basically be security officers meant for guarding embassies, protecting visiting dignitaries, and generally be the public face of my military on the international scene.

I am curious I do not know much about guns but what would be some good weapons and calibers to arm them with? I need weapons that are highly accurate and are not as likely to shoot through walls just in case they do miss. I am not to concern about stopping power, I'd rather avoid killing some nosy reporter or other person whose death will set the media on fire.

What is your service rifle? Issue a carbine variant of that, optionally with frangible ammunition.

Optionally just line the interior walls of your embassy with half an inch of lead.

[Radicchio]

Jeep infantry squad

• Squad leader - rifle
• Grenadier - rifle + UBGL
• Rifleman - rifle
• Gunner - belt-fed GPMG

with rifle grenades / disposable rocket launchers spread among them, y/y?

Also, what exactly is a "scout" in a squad? Do they have some better optics or lighter load or smth?

This is almost identical to how I run a jeep squad with four jeeps to a squad and one of those four having only two riflemen and a radio operator running a field network.

And for the purposes of my infantry, a "Scout" is a designated marksman who has done some hand to hand combat training, graduated a week of evasion/survival classes, gets to ditch the extra belt of 30cal and instead humps around a short range laser designator for painting up the CAS targets.

[Randmar]

So I am creating a "Foreign Guard" which will basically be security officers meant for guarding embassies, protecting visiting dignitaries, and generally be the public face of my military on the international scene.

I am curious I do not know much about guns but what would be some good weapons and calibers to arm them with? I need weapons that are highly accurate and are not as likely to shoot through walls just in case they do miss. I am not to concern about stopping power, I'd rather avoid killing some nosy reporter or other person whose death will set the media on fire.

What is your service rifle? Issue a carbine variant of that, optionally with frangible ammunition.

Optionally just line the interior walls of your embassy with half an inch of lead.

I haven't actually design my military beyond some vague it exist and does stuff.

My diplomatic security detail comes up more often as I do embassies and participate in regional meetings.

Carbines and submachine guns.

I am looking for recommendations for actual weapons rather than vague archtypes like "go get sub machine guns" or something to that extent. I dont really know what sub machine gun has the accuracy and lack of stopping power I am seeking so I thought I ask here before I get drill through pages and pages on weapons.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

What is your service rifle? Issue a carbine variant of that, optionally with frangible ammunition.

Optionally just line the interior walls of your embassy with half an inch of lead.

I haven't actually design my military beyond some vague it exist and does stuff.

My diplomatic security detail comes up more often as I do embassies and participate in regional meetings.

Carbines and submachine guns.

I am looking for recommendations for actual weapons rather than vague archtypes like "go get sub machine guns" or something to that extent. I dont really know what sub machine gun has the accuracy and lack of stopping power I am seeking so I thought I ask here before I get drill through pages and pages on weapons.

G36c and MP5. There you go.

[Yukonastan]

What is your service rifle? Issue a carbine variant of that, optionally with frangible ammunition.

Optionally just line the interior walls of your embassy with half an inch of lead.

I haven't actually design my military beyond some vague it exist and does stuff.

My diplomatic security detail comes up more often as I do embassies and participate in regional meetings.

I personally do ceremonially enhanced battle rifles for my embassy guards. Loaded and with teeth, but nonetheless dolled up to look good during drill. Similar thing for my sidearms, cherry grip panels and slight amounts of brass, copper, and nickel inlay in a satin-finished weapon.