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Gallan Systems
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6%
Ulfr
4
5%
Mick Swagger
6
7%
Puzikas
27
31%
Nirvash Type TheEND
19
22%
Sevv
2
2%
Estovnia
1
1%
Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502
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3%
Gallia
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8%
Glorious Comrade Padnak
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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:23 am

Immoren wrote:Better barrier penetration is better suppression.
Although none of those are binary.

:p

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B-b-b-but... Muh suppression!

Larger cartridge is 5.56x45mm, smaller is some 5.56x40mm derivative I made in two minutes.
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Tekeristan
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Postby Tekeristan » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:25 am

I'm thinking about making the LMG's carry smaller bullets, so they can bring more magazines while carrying more in a magazine.

The primary use will be suppression and area of denial ( Urban combat, if needed ).

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Radicchio
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Postby Radicchio » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:28 am

I know that ON PAPER the M60 was never squad lvl in Vietnam but I have read IN PRACTICE the Mechanized Infantry Units used it at the squad level whenever it was available. There was an article in Supply Line Magazine that i recall that talked about how platoon leaders would put in repair orders on their M60s to get sometimes 3-5 M60s sent out to them for their Mech Infantry Platoons. I assume that the Marines would have done this too whenever they could.

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Postby Immoren » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:05 am

Don't know if it's silly or not. But when it comes to the company leadership, I had it so that in garrison conditions, the company CO would be an officer who has passed their staff officer course (ie major), while he is assisted by the officer with Master of Military Science (Ie, career captain), but when company mobilizes into field with rest of the battalion, the major will be transferred into the staff function in battalion, while captain is upgraded to the role of company commander, and reserve senior lieutenant from will be mobilized from the reserves to act as company 2IC?
:p
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Postby The Grand Imperium of Man » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:27 pm

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Postby Sediczja » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:30 pm

The Grand Imperium of Man wrote:Time to interject your thoughts.
Would it be effective for me to make a tank with a hypervelocity coil gun for tank hunting or bunker destruction.
>>>/mgv/
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:41 pm

What would be the end result of a Napoleonic style battle taking place on the moon? By that I mean entire Napoleonic age armies, men, horses and all placed in space suits and transported up there, their weapons replaced by identically functioning ones that work without air.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:43 pm

Purpelia wrote:What would be the end result of a Napoleonic style battle taking place on the moon? By that I mean entire Napoleonic age armies, men, horses and all placed in space suits and transported up there, their weapons replaced by identically functioning ones that work without air.


Literaly all of them would lose their minds and it would be a custerfuck. No one wins.
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:46 pm

Purpelia wrote:What would be the end result of a Napoleonic style battle taking place on the moon? By that I mean entire Napoleonic age armies, men, horses and all placed in space suits and transported up there, their weapons replaced by identically functioning ones that work without air.



The most entertaining bit of collective madness in one area this side of the sly-one intervening in somebodies life at some godsawful awkward moment.


I would legitimately pay to see that kind of insanity unfold (from a distance, like any sane person)
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Postby The Kievan People » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:00 pm

Purpelia wrote:What would be the end result of a Napoleonic style battle taking place on the moon? By that I mean entire Napoleonic age armies, men, horses and all placed in space suits and transported up there, their weapons replaced by identically functioning ones that work without air.


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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:03 pm

Jeep infantry squad

  • Squad leader - rifle
  • Grenadier - rifle + UBGL
  • Rifleman - rifle
  • Gunner - belt-fed GPMG

with rifle grenades / disposable rocket launchers spread among them, y/y?

Also, what exactly is a "scout" in a squad? Do they have some better optics or lighter load or smth?
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:05 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Jeep infantry squad

  • Squad leader - rifle
  • Grenadier - rifle + UBGL
  • Rifleman - rifle
  • Gunner - belt-fed GPMG

with rifle grenades / disposable rocket launchers spread among them, y/y?

Also, what exactly is a "scout" in a squad? Do they have some better optics or lighter load or smth?

You know 6 man jeeps are a thing now, right?
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:10 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Jeep infantry squad

  • Squad leader - rifle
  • Grenadier - rifle + UBGL
  • Rifleman - rifle
  • Gunner - belt-fed GPMG

with rifle grenades / disposable rocket launchers spread among them, y/y?

Also, what exactly is a "scout" in a squad? Do they have some better optics or lighter load or smth?

You know 6 man jeeps are a thing now, right?


examples?

most military light utility vehicles have a listed capacity of 4.

also you can't really use the trunk (assuming it was connected to the cab) b/c of of equipment and weapons and stuff.

also you need space for the gunner *nods*
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Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.

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Postby Laywenrania » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:12 pm

Factbook on II-Wiki
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Nachmere wrote:Tanks are tough bastards.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:12 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:You know 6 man jeeps are a thing now, right?


examples?

most military light utility vehicles have a listed capacity of 4.

also you can't really use the trunk (assuming it was connected to the cab) b/c of of equipment and weapons and stuff.

also you need space for the gunner *nods*

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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:13 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:You know 6 man jeeps are a thing now, right?


examples?

most military light utility vehicles have a listed capacity of 4.

also you can't really use the trunk (assuming it was connected to the cab) b/c of of equipment and weapons and stuff.

also you need space for the gunner *nods*


squad leader can double as vehicle commander and private or 2IC can double as driver.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:14 pm


Tigr is the fat kid who always got picked last for flag football.
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Postby Tekeristan » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:18 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:

Tigr is the fat kid who always got picked last for flag football.


I saw Psh and thought of the PPsh.
That was a cool gun.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:19 pm

Tekeristan wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Tigr is the fat kid who always got picked last for flag football.


I saw Psh and thought of the PPsh.
That was a cool gun.

Makes for a much better stool.
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Tekeristan
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Postby Tekeristan » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:20 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Tekeristan wrote:
I saw Psh and thought of the PPsh.
That was a cool gun.

Makes for a much better stool.


Make PPsh out of stool!

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Laywenrania
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Postby Laywenrania » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:25 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:

Tigr is the fat kid who always got picked last for flag football.

The fat kid with a lot of space
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Nachmere wrote:Tanks are tough bastards.

Gallia- wrote: And I'm emotionally attached to large, cuddly, wide Objects.

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DnalweN acilbupeR
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:26 pm

Immoren wrote:
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
examples?

most military light utility vehicles have a listed capacity of 4.

also you can't really use the trunk (assuming it was connected to the cab) b/c of of equipment and weapons and stuff.

also you need space for the gunner *nods*


squad leader can double as vehicle commander and private or 2IC can double as driver.


yeah, 4 incl. crew.
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Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.

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Sediczja
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Postby Sediczja » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:32 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Tekeristan wrote:
I saw Psh and thought of the PPsh.
That was a cool gun.

Makes for a much better stool.

PPSh-41: When you absolutely positively gotta sit the fuck down right now, accept no substitutes.
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Anarcho-Saxony wrote:The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened

Carcelea wrote:WHEN IT WILL STOPS?????

Saiwania wrote:Instead of adjusting my world view to fit more closely with facts, I prefer to try to force the facts into my world view. I've come to my conclusion: that race mixing is bad, therefore I have to do my best to minimize what contradicts that and maximize what supports it. I desperately want the Bible's scriptures to say that God forbids interracial marriage.

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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:32 pm

Yukonastan wrote:I roughed it out for you.

Edit: Pixel measured it this time.

Not too far from mine, all told.

I don't plan to use it in, really any capacity. I just found it while looking through patents related to the HK spoon tip projectile.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby The balkens » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:11 pm



Something tells me that this is either during victory day celebrations in Russia or just your average day in Belarus.

Plan on Visiting the latter soon.

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