Infantry Discussion Thread 6: True Korea Edition

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

If it feeds from a belt and fires .30 cal it's good to go.



You should have been here 3 weeks ago. We nearly crashed the thread with no survivors.

wat happen

Episode 5; Corda Strikes Back

[Fordorsia]

Mating season

drawing swords

Puns : D

[Vancon]

Mating season

We now see the ford in its natural habitat, drawing swords and causing migraines to those that hate swords. A truly magnificent creature.

Over there, you can see the graveyard, where the souls of our fallen rest peacefully. RIP San-Silv & Nua Corda/Mick Swagger

[Puzikas]

We dont get along, its just an armistice in honor of die Führers birthday.
It necessitates between 14 and 32 days of armistice, you see.

I thought it was 88 :/

Thats being far too optimistic.


I should have said between 14 and 18, or 14 and 39

My supervisor is now looking at me like I'm an idiot, thanks.

Amazing.

[The balkens]

I thought it was 88 :/

Thats being far too optimistic.


I should have said between 14 and 18, or 14 and 39

My supervisor is now looking at me like I'm an idiot, thanks.

Amazing.

And now...The Puzikas. Possibly a creature that has managed to alter the gene-pool of the entire new England area as well as the Caucasus Mountains, and quite possibly the one guy IDT goes for ANYTHING.

[Yukonastan]

Puzikas, modular grenades*. Thoughts?

*ie different types of fuzes, bodies (whole or segmented), time adjustable fuzes, yayayaya.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Amazing.

Don't be tsun.

Puzikas, modular grenades*. Thoughts?

*ie different types of fuzes, bodies (whole or segmented), time adjustable fuzes, yayayaya.

Another case of a solution looking for a problem.

[Yukonastan]

Puzikas, modular grenades*. Thoughts?

*ie different types of fuzes, bodies (whole or segmented), time adjustable fuzes, yayayaya.

Another case of a solution looking for a problem.

NIRVASH IS PUZ CONFIRMED 2015

But yes, I want to issue stick grenades, but I don't want to lose pineapples. Put a stick on a pineapple.

[Tekeristan]

Stick grenades look pretty awesome, and seem like you could throw them farther.
What are the cons?

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Put a stick on a pineapple.

Shit dude, you're half way there. Just brush it with some honey and grill it over a maple fire.

Stick grenades look pretty awesome, and seem like you could throw them farther.
What are the cons?

Heavier and space inefficient.

[Tekeristan]

Put a stick on a pineapple.

Shit dude, you're half way there. Just brush it with some honey and grill it over a maple fire.

Stick grenades look pretty awesome, and seem like you could throw them farther.
What are the cons?

Heavier and space inefficient.

They could make it a bit lighter with different materials, but I see what'ca mean.

[The balkens]

Stick grenades look pretty awesome, and seem like you could throw them farther.
What are the cons?

my guess is low explosive yield. A possible solution is to stick a bunch of the charges together.
Like so.


It was a common tactic in WW1, great for clearing sections of a trench and it was also seen in WW2, often by German heavy infantry. I also heard that the soviets did this method with their anti-tank grenades and were apparently effective.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

Stick grenades look pretty awesome, and seem like you could throw them farther.
What are the cons?

my guess is low explosive yield. A possible solution is to stick a bunch of the charges together.
Like so.


It was a common tactic in WW1, great for clearing trenches and it was also seen in WW2, often by German heavy infantry. I also heard that the soviets did this method with their anti-tank grenades and were apparently effective.

that looks sexual

[Yukonastan]

Put a stick on a pineapple.

Shit dude, you're half way there. Just brush it with some honey and grill it over a maple fire.

Maple fires are too heavy and bulky to issue to every fireteam =/

Stick grenades look pretty awesome, and seem like you could throw them farther.
What are the cons?

Heavier and space inefficient.

Hence why the fuzes/other random shit parts/whatever are modular. If you need to finnperate at high speed no drag you remove the sticks at your base and replace them with pineapple-style fuzes, and if you need to into longer throws you use a stick handle fuze instead. And with different charges you get stick CS gas grenades, stick smoke grenades, stick flashbang grenades, stick concussion grenades, stick antitank grenades, stick grenades ribbed for her pleasure...

[Laywenrania]

Stick grenades look pretty awesome, and seem like you could throw them farther.
What are the cons?

They always stuck in the bunker firing holes in CoD 1... pineapple just goes through them

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Shit dude, you're half way there. Just brush it with some honey and grill it over a maple fire.

Maple fires are too heavy and bulky to issue to every fireteam =/

Heavier and space inefficient.

Hence why the fuzes/other random shit parts/whatever are modular. If you need to finnperate at high speed no drag you remove the sticks at your base and replace them with pineapple-style fuzes, and if you need to into longer throws you use a stick handle fuze instead. And with different charges you get stick CS gas grenades, stick smoke grenades, stick flashbang grenades, stick concussion grenades, stick antitank grenades, stick grenades ribbed for her pleasure...

You would actually be better off using explosive dogs at that point.

[Yukonastan]

Maple fires are too heavy and bulky to issue to every fireteam =/


Hence why the fuzes/other random shit parts/whatever are modular. If you need to finnperate at high speed no drag you remove the sticks at your base and replace them with pineapple-style fuzes, and if you need to into longer throws you use a stick handle fuze instead. And with different charges you get stick CS gas grenades, stick smoke grenades, stick flashbang grenades, stick concussion grenades, stick antitank grenades, stick grenades ribbed for her pleasure...

You would actually be better off using explosive dogs at that point.

Not finnperator enough.

[Puzikas]

Puzikas, modular grenades*. Thoughts?

*ie different types of fuzes, bodies (whole or segmented), time adjustable fuzes, yayayaya.

Nifty concept, doesn't necessarily have much in the way of actual use. While it would be nice to pull out a fuse and plop it into another body ir I wanted to go from HE to Incendiary, I really don't see the point, since I could just carry, you know, dedicated grenades.

[Eahland]

I was just struck by the idea of carrying a grenade atlatl. One stick for all your grenade-throwing purposes!

[Imperializt Russia]

All of my work with my forces is based upon FM-100-2-3 (US), which is not the most reliable of models, I'm told
It's from where I get my breakdown of the Soviet rifle platoon - three sections of seven fighting men, a BMP each and two commanders for the platoon. FM-100-2-3 was written at a time when the BMP-1 was still the dominant vehicle in the Soviet and WarPac inventory, and the structure may have changed entirely.

Its changed so many times between each branch of service in the last ~15 years I really dont know whats normal and whats not anymore.

At the time of my enlistment, the standard Soviet doctrine was still in place for motor rifle squads in BTR-70s and 80s, BMP-1s and BMP-2s. However, as the soviet nature sort of fledged away from my unit, commanders began sort of reorganizing squad, Platoon, and Company structures on the basis that we were "inefficient".

Squad composition went from as described in FM-100-whatever (Which did have some issues; I haven't read it in some time but it certainly was not 100%) to something a bit different.

A standard platoon had two SVD gunners, Two PK gunners and two RPG gunners. The squads no longer had three of four RPGs, one SVD and one PK. It just wasn't necessary to have so many RPG-7s, primarily due to the increased prevalence of disposable launchers like the RPG-18/22 and RPG-26, and the existence of assistants, who could also act as suppression and maneuver elements far better than an RPG-7 gunner could.
The addition of an SVD and a PK was a logical choice, really; it allowed the platoon to engage at further distances, place down more fire, more accurately, while not taking away from the efficiency of normal riflemen.
Not having been Army, however, I am unsure of their organization during this time. I believe it likely retained its organization. The problem with the Soviet organizational system for Squads and Platoons is they felt no obligation to actually deploy the infantry weapons in any cohesive fashion. Sure, there were probably 4 men trained (Well, tasked, pretty much everyone would know how to use it) on the RPG-7, but maybe only one had the RPG-7, and the rest were toting around Kalashnikovs or RPKs. A platoon might have one Sniper assigned to them, but they somehow have three or four.
The modern organizational system is dramatically different since the 2008 reforms and the 2012 re-reforms, im sure. If I had to guess, based on the, among the members of the dismounts, you would find:
-14/15 AK-74Ms with 3 GP-25/GP30 grenade Launchers
-3 RPK-74s
-2 SVDs
-2 RPG-7s
-2 PKM/P Machine Guns
Assuming 23 total dismounts (7 men from each BTR+ MIC & 2IC)

Though I am rather unsure. I dont have any friends still in the Army service; they've all moved to the MVD, FSB, or various special purpose units, or have left the service since that time.

Intriguing.
I'll have a look into whether I fancy taking this up. Thanks.

[Immoren]

Separate winter and summer bdus, or single bdu with summer camo on one side and winter camo on the other, and is turned inside out as needed?

[Laywenrania]

Separate winter and summer bdus, or single bdu with summer camo on one side and winter camo on the other, and is turned inside out as needed?

lined winter BDUs and snow camo suits.

[Imperializt Russia]

Surely your winter BDU would be separate and be more warming than summer gear?
Or is summer really that cold in Finland?

(I had toyed with the idea of visually-similar summer and winter BDUs, with the winter model being a lined jumpsuit of sorts. People keep telling me I should ignore jumpsuits. I don't listen, like the other voices in my head)

[Immoren]

Surely your winter BDU would be separate and be more warming than summer gear?
Or is summer really that cold in Finland?

First camo bdu Finland made during the sixties was made such way that it was summer pattern outside, and had solid white insides, to be used as winter suit by turning it inside out. It was primarily summer bdu, so it required quite amount of layers during the winter.
For some reason this wasn't repeated with m/91 and m/05 bdus, and separate winter camo was developed during 70-80is.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

I found a thing. Is a German patent for a 4mm solid iron projectile. Apparently, despite being comprised entirely of soft iron, it was able to penetrate 6mm steel at 50m and 30cm (I think) of pine at 100m.